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Geek Culture / New Forums Vs. Old Forums (Opinion Comparison)

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HZence
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I decided to make this thread since I haven't really had time lately to discuss the new forum. This isn't meant to say "here's what this forum can do that the old one can't". It's an opinion thread. Just post what you like about this one/don't like about this one compared to the old forum.

Personally I like the new color scheme. Also, maybe it's just me but the forums seem a heck of a lot faster.

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to me for some reason, the forums are slower. not the actual forums, i mean connecting to the website. im sat here with a green loading bar for longer than it used to.

that said, i like the layout, and the idea of the search tool (although i havent actually used it yet lol).

i also like the new way of selecting a different page, when a thread goes over multiple pages.


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Andy Igoe
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I preffer the new forums since the slimline option was added, although they are a tad slower. I'm on broadband though so we're talking half a second here, i'm just not used to waiting for pages is all.

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My vote's is for the new forum, it has fixed a few old bug that were a but aynoing, for example, new posts appear highlighted on posts over 50. On the old forum if the topic were more than one page in length you wouldn't get any highlights.

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The new forum is slicker, faster, and more powerful... what's not to love?

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The actual forum code is much faster, but the website is much slower to load, but then we have to rememebr this is probably due to it being new and not in our regularly used temp storage so the graphics are all loading at once from the web, which will slow it down until we've all been here a while I guess.

Personally I really love the new design of the site and the way everythings all linked together and looking consistant now

My only quabble would be promoting the 3dgamemaker stil but I guess its fun for the kids

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Old Forums = Good
-Color scheme 4/5
-coolness 4/5
-accessibility 4/5
-Curve 4/5

New Forums = Great
-Color scheme 4/5
-coolness 5/5
-accessibility 4/5
-Curve 5/5

I like the new ones, yet I mainly curve it because of the new features added.

Old website= great
-accessibility 5/5
-speed 5/5
-coolness 4/5
-curve 4/5

New website= awesome
-accessibility 4/5
-speed 5/5
-coolness 5/5
-curve 5/5

There you have folks.



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New forum shows inattention to the high number of users still on 800x600 res. I have a few machines with 15" monitors, and I will never run them higher than 800x600.

Just needs to be coded with the table width in percentage instead of a fixed pixel width.

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OK so I thin kthe new site may be a bit overkill but there are some really good ideas in there.
My only grievance is that the forums don't seem to be like forums, more like a page out of the site and that it was incredibly hard to find the forums (from the navigation bar the the top, who would guess to click a litle button with speech bubble in it?) - it was only once I logged in that I found the forums

Yes I know there is a link half way down the page on the left but who would look there?

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"Just needs to be coded with the table width in percentage instead of a fixed pixel width."

View the source dude.

"Yes I know there is a link half way down the page on the left but who would look there?"

How about the link on every single menu then?

The main route to the forums should be through the Developer site where they are all available to you, all of the time, from the menu. More people will start using this site as their default when the content level bumps up. It will make sense in a few months, you'll see. Imagine Blitzcoder.com but for DB/DBP without all the constant downtime errors

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Quote: "Yes I know there is a link half way down the page on the left but who would look there?"


me.


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I suppose I was a bit used to clicking "forums" at the top

There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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anyway, the question i would like to ask, is wtf is wrong with the forum search? is it still under development or something?

when you search for something, it think's it's a forum lol. i wonder what happens if you use that post message box....

don't worry, i won't try it.


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Quote: "[quote]"Yes I know there is a link half way down the page on the left but who would look there?""


me.[/quote]

I also use it.

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Quote: "View the source dude.
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Rich, I did view the source, and there are numerous cases where you use pixels for cells instead of %.

The main tables are done in %, but everything else is px. This causes the tables to stretch out over the edges of the browser.

You could also do separate style sheets, and detect the browser height and width in Javascript.

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I repeat , This forum is an utter unusable disaster if you have a slow connection -- it took bloody hours to get this far, just to say so.
And i have ( painfully) returned to edit, and say .. it is the reloading of the old list ( or page) that doubles the already tedious delay.
Maybe one could stand a slow load if one could just flick back to the list.
Arghhh what's worse is the rumour that RGT may be collapsing.
That leaves this as the only contact.
good grief.

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Quote: "Rich, I did view the source, and there are numerous cases where you use pixels for cells instead of %."


Two actually. Left hand column and right hand column. The middle one uses the % and seeing as this set-up works fine in Mozilla 1.4, Opera7 and IE I have no intentions of changing it anytime soon. The site will not fit in an 800x600 resolution and wasn't designed to.

Quote: "This forum is an utter unusable disaster"


Yeah yeah as you keep saying

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hi, the forums works good for me, as the old one.
No problem to write post, to reply, no problems anyway.
Rich made a good work.

And you didn't payed he for this.

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functionality = much better, like it tells me who was the last person to post in a thread instead of the author, which is really good, and i hear it has a built in search function, also good, but the layout and design and setup i cant stand, shoulda just made old forums with these functions.


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i dont ming the layout and style, i think the design is pretty neat to be honest (well, now that we can get rid of the navbar )

and i think the search is still under construction, i mean, how can you post in a forum that doesnt exist? you'll know what i mean if you try it.

anyway, the thing i really dislike about this forum, is that something is going very slow. pages take very long to load. ive sort of ruled out the design and the script (which is very fast, as you can see when you hover your mouse over the apollo logo). i think it's establishing the actual connection to the server. rich, i dont suppose you decided to move the server to australia did you?


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The first thing I noticed that pages load blazingly fast compared to old forums. But then again I am one of those Cable Modem spoiled brats that get's impatient when a page doesn't fully display in .03 seconds

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For me the forums load faster pehaps it's a browser problem.
Still any chance of fixing it so firebird doesn't occasionaly have a massive side panel.
I just tried it in explorer and it loads about the same speed as in firebird. The only differece is that explorer loads the whole page and then displays it so there is a gray background until the whole page has loaded perhaps that causes the delay. On a modem I could see it being very annoying.
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the old forums were the same code as the new ones and were really fast too. these are just like the old ones with a different skin for me. which, i suppose, is the case.

not to mention i LOVE the new site

stop looking at me!
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I'll allow you to customise the threads per page and messages per page and turn on/off the JS features on the post box. Those are the final changes I can make really. The slowness sometimes is gonna be either page rendering or the fact the server is dealing out 1.4 million hits per day (which is almost 3 times what it was before). I'm quite sure there are times of the day this slows it down.

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Yeah, i agree, rich.

Day time, the forums arnt bad at all, well, they feel the same speed as the old ones.

But after about 6-7 o'clock, they slow down dramatically.
That would be prime time UK, and about school finishing time for the US.


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Quote: "The site will not fit in an 800x600 resolution and wasn't designed to.
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Isn't that what I said in the first place? Why did you try to controvert what I said, if you only intended to confirm it in the end?

That's just laziness. It shows you don't care about users with an 800x600 display, and did not take the time when setting down the style sheet to even consider it.

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You're right, I'm not particularly bothered about people still browsing in 800x600. Call it whatever you want, but if someones PC/monitor is so cranky they can't handle a higher res then they're not going to have much luck with any of the programs we sell here and can't be a particularly avid games player either, so are well outside our demographics.

Even my archaic P3-450 with a lowley video card runs higher than 800x600 by default. The only exception to this rule are those who have to run that low because they perhaps need screen reading software / have visual issues and for those we're preparing a text only version of the site.

The entire site will fit into an 800 width if you ignore the right-hand menu, so that's all the real content readable without scrolling (horizontally) anyway. There are no plans to change this. As for the "high number of users" still using 800x600 I'm not sure where you're getting your figures from, but a tiny percentage (<1%) of them visit our site.

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I use 800 * 600. But that's only because my monitors only 12.5 * 9.5. Anything higher is just impossible to see.

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What I don't like is that I can't click "REPLY" on the post that I want to reply to and have it automatically quoted for me.

Also I would like to upload a file and attach it to my post, that would be nice for people who want to test models and code. Of course there should be a limit or so, lets say 5 megabytes per post.

Rich, please take a look at realgametools forums for some good functionality such as uploading a file and attaching it to your post or blitzcoder's message boards for some really good functionality.

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I don't see that happening ever, Rich has stated many times that he'll never add an attachment function because he doesn't want to waste space/bandwidth with people uploading stuff. Apart from that, 5 MB is way too much especially considering paid DBDN users get 2MB for Codebase and Free users just 500kb. lol.

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@Exeat

Not quite true. I believe that DBDN users will eventually be able to add attachments.

The Projects system will allow people to post screenshots of their in-progress work, so people can just link to those from the forums.


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Rob's right. DBDN members will be able to attach files to forum posts. We used to allow this (file uploads) and our server was filled with 2.1 Gigs of pretty much mostly crap inside of 9 months.

Hard drive space is cheap I agree, but that's a serious waste of it as people attached any old rubbish. The CodeBase lets you upload code with attachments (and 500KB should be ample for a single code example! That's 500KB per code item, not total).

The Projects area will allow you to post shots of WIP and maintain an online dev log and if your finished game is good enough for our Showcase, we'll host the download files! That's more than most other sites do. Blitzcoder for example is full of broken images (or those natty little "Tripod logos" ) because you have to link to images on your own site.

I'll consider the "Reply" option though. That could be dead useful.

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I happen to really like the new layout and the speed of the website in general. The new forums kick ass (especially with the get rid of the side bit)

Better than any other forum ive used

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Rich, here is one set of stats.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Yes, the DB crowd is different from the internet.

They're younger, they have more disposable income. You see it in their user stats. A much higher percentage are running high-end machines. They have to be the only demographic in the world that seems to have wholly adopted XP (only few of the real resource junkies ever mention using 98, and maybe one or two have ever mentioned 2000).

Not too surprisingly, more run at higher resolutions.

< 1% running 800x600? That's a stretch, given that still, almost ever web site that tracks user stats says no fewer than 30% are running 800x600. Are you sure you didn't mean 640x480?

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hmm, well based on stats to my websites, i generally get about 70% at 1024x768.

most users running win98, with ie.

more stats from the tgc website:
legal copy of winxp: 1%
illegal copy of winxp: 98%
illegal copy of win98: 1%


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I like the new forums but they tend to blur my eyes when I sit here to long, the old ones didn't do this? But never mind, I preferr the new forums over the old anyway.

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I would believe that the percentage of people using higher res would be higher here than on the rest of the internet. I would be very surprised if there was as little as 1% on 800x600.

Unfortunatly I have been made to use xp by my fx5200. There was something about 98 I miss, not the extra speed and but more. The kind of raw, held together by string feeling. I am almost temped to move around my sticks of ram(temermental mobo) or over clock my ageing 800mhz duron a bit more to get some instability back.

Quote: "legal copy of winxp: 1%
illegal copy of winxp: 98%
illegal copy of win98: 1%
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I bet there is more than 1% using illegal versions of 98 and a lot less using dodgy copies of xp.
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Quote: "Are you sure you didn't mean 640x480?"


The majority of users here are on XP. It's minimum res is 800x600. Nearly all the users here are games players in some capacity, so it doesn't surprise me one bit that a tiny percentage of them have an 800x600 resolution. It's just the wrong demographics for this site. As for the Internet as a whole, hell yeah loads of people must still be on 800x600, but the vast majority of them are filtered out by the subject matter of this site. I.e. they just don't come here.

The exceptions I can think of would be library/school/Uni lab PCs, Internet Cafes maybe (although nearly all good ones have decent PCs) and other locations like this. We're not stupid, if we get a significant number of complaints about the width of the site then we'll address it. But we've not had one to date (bar in this thread).

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Quote: "View the source dude."


Lol, Rich, that's not an Americanism at all...



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OK . . . well-coded HTML should look good at any resolution. The only major one that is considered appropriate by designers to ignore is 640x480.

Whether it matches your demographic or not, it is a very fixable problem.

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I HATE the new way of logging in. I couldn't use my old Forum Name!

I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
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Quote: "it is a very fixable problem."


Try it Make the site fit nicely on 800x600 without removing either left or right columns or removing / resizing any of the black product navigation buttons in the header.

Quote: "I HATE the new way of logging in. I couldn't use my old Forum Name!"


Because you forgot your email address you registered with last time? Erm, who's fault is that then?

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woo! i like it when rich gets snippy

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lol.. welcome back Chip.

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alot of sites look good on 640x480, Macromedia's for example is very good at all resolutions - very well designed site, though i mean wouldn't be good for business if the leading authority on web design products was unreadable on some resolutions and colour rates.

the sits been designed for a 1024x768 desktop in mind, i dropped to 800x600 to check out how it would look and it seems totally too cramped ... not the menu as thats only slightly larger but the actual main body.

Which could actually be fixxed by making the topright menu have another menu below with all of the left hand colomn stuff on it (as thats all just simply links anyway to the forum/newsletter/etc... all TGC stuff anyways)

And the left hand one doesn't really have enough information to warrent the space on the side, you could quite easily make a lower frame where you can put the "featured" "advert" "dtotd" "recent new stories headers" ... those headers could then lead to a java popup of the full story, alot of sites do this to save space and the need for pictures or lengthy descriptions.

-- -- --

don't get me wrong i like the site, but it really isn't optimised for anyone on a lower res monitor ... like what they have in schools that most can't alter as all access to system areas is oftenly denied.

don't agree with how 8truths put it though.

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There will always be other ways of laying out ANY site, a horizontal drop down menu was considered, but then you make the classic mistake of having too much guff at the top of the browser and only a tiny amount of content visible without needing to scroll. Like I said, if we get enough complaints we'll revisit it. There's no indication we need do that yet and if visitors to our site are good at doing anything, it's complaining!

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Posted: 6th Sep 2003 22:01
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you'll always need to scroll to get the rest of the content, no matter how much context is where.

its really the problem with having so much information and trying to put it all in as a single click anywhere.
honestly don't really have a problem with the site design, but you did say to suggest a way of comfortably putting things on 800x600
really i think most of the content available should be on the main page rather than all of the subsiquent pages.
if you only got rid of the left hand colomn everything would really fit fine onto a 800x600 without much fuss.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2003 03:46
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Raven . . . you know you agree . . . give me a kiss.

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Rich? JavaScript? Nice way to get around those product buttons is to organize them in drop-down menus.

Better yet, forget JS, and just cut down the total number of things displayed.

Not to be a smartass, but at some point you have to exercise a bit of editorial control.

I admire your honesty. Hell, I like you; you can come over to my house and ---- my sister!
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