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Storm4
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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 07:32
Alright, so the other week, I had this dream that my sister would get into a car accident. I blew it off like it was nothing. Then the other day, it happened and until then, I had forgoten about the dream until that moment. The car that hit her in the dream was a white Camery in an intersection. She was hit in an Intersection by a white Camery. And this isn't the only time something like this has happened. A month or so before my vacation, I had a dream that me and my friends were riding 4wheelers up an hill when the leader stalled and roles backwards, hitting and dragging everyone back to the bottom. I blew off that dream and remembered it when it happened.

All I'm asking for is an answer to what the heck is going on with me.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 08:26
Quote: "All I'm asking for is an answer to what the heck is going on with me."


How are we supposed to give you answers to what is happening with you?


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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 08:36
this is a form of deja vu. more than likely, u didnt have a dream about those exact things and THEN they happened. you could have had a SIMILAR dream, and as the event is occuring (or after the event), your brain links the 2 together and you think u had a dream about something in the future.

you're fine. you're not seeing the future

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 10:18
Yes, you can dream a lot in one night, so it isn't really that weird that two things may seem similar, as jasonhtml said.
I myself experience it as if I've dreamed certain dreams before instead.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 10:27
Quote: "All I'm asking for is an answer to what the heck is going on with me."


You're the star of a poorly written Nicolas Cage movie. But hey, at least this means you get to date someone much younger than you.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 14:03
Quote: "All I'm asking for is an answer to what the heck is going on with me."


I don't know. Did you have a dream about making a post in the geekchat area of an online forum? Was it a post that no-one is ever really going to answer because there is no answer.
You just better hope that you don't have a dream about going to the beach and getting sand in your shoes and when you take your shoes off you find you don't have any legs because they've been eaten by toasters.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 14:06
Why is it that people tempt me so?

No Laz, your on post watch, think first you idiot,

So? by any chance did you see the lotery numbers?

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 14:14
Dreams tend to turn nasty when you're under particular stress, or you've forgotten something. If something is getting to you, it's likely a similar theme will repeat (and fixating on the dream and its content isn't likely to make it go away, either)

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 14:59 Edited at: 11th Aug 2009 15:48
It might be just reconstructive memory. Not all of your memories are complete accounts. You might remember a part of the dream, but the events have effected how you remember it.

When studying psychology at AS level our psychology teacher tried to replicate the 'War of the ghosts' experiment, which essentially demonstrates how reconstructive memory works.

Here's a brief summary of what I'm on about:

http://www.bookrags.com/research/reconstructive-memory-lmem-01/

From there:

Quote: "
Subjectively, memory feels like a camera that faithfully records and replays details of our past. In fact, memory is a reconstructive process prone to systematic biases and errors—reliable at times, and unreliable at others. Memories are a combination of new and old knowledge, personal beliefs, and one's own and others' expectations. We blend these ingredients in forming a past that conforms to one's haphazardly accurate view of oneself and the world."


Think of it as your brain filling in the blanks.

Or at least I think it could be to do with reconstructive memory, I'm not a psychological expert (I'd hardly call an AS level 'expert') or anything, it's just an educated guess.


Maybe this will help you feel a bit better about your dreams.


Alternatively you've got a case of Nicolas Cage syndrome. (as mentioned. )


But I hope your sister is okay.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 16:19
Hope your sis is okay. Yeah, right before my bros accident, i had a dream about it, but i thinnk it was a......weird coincidence. I dont think i saw the future - cuz I also dreamed that I'd get hit by a car while on my bike the same day and that never happened. that might be just your Nicolas Cage Acting up tho

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 17:28
I have the opposite problem.
Something happens, then I have dreams about it! How the heck does reality know what my dreams are going to be?!?


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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 21:54
Quote: "Something happens, then I have dreams about it! How the heck does reality know what my dreams are going to be?!?"


No see, you have mental images stored from your experience, so you'll later dream about it. It's not a problem.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 22:04
I think Ron was joking.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 22:11 Edited at: 11th Aug 2009 22:14
Quote: "No see, you have mental images stored from your experience, so you'll later dream about it."


I completely disagree. My dreams have the unique ability of predicting the past. It is an ability that comes so easy to me that I can do it with my eyes shut. I'm just amazing like that.

Quote: "I think Ron was joking."

Haha!


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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 22:41
Quote: "I think Ron was joking. "


If he was joking, he wouldn't have laughed at you right here :

Quote: "Haha!"


Quote: "I completely disagree. My dreams have the unique ability of predicting the past. It is an ability that comes so easy to me that I can do it with my eyes shut. I'm just amazing like that."


I guess I must be amazing because I can do the exact same thing. And you can't predict the past, since it's already been experienced.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 22:52
So you had a dream about a crash with a particular type of car and it happened. That sounds too much like coincidence. Or is it...

Take all of your dreams, and take all of your experiences. Now, what are the chances of one of them coinciding. Quite a lot higher.

This is what the heck is going on with you...You have done a fantastic job of disregarding the thousands of experiences you ever had that you haven't previously dreamed about.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 23:00 Edited at: 11th Aug 2009 23:03
Quote: "I guess I must be amazing because I can do the exact same thing."


Then tonight... maybe you will have dreams of the moment that you realized that I wasn't laughing AT Seppuku, I was laughing WITH Seppuku that you thought I was serious. Twice. Funny.

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I thought the "can do it with my eyes shut" would have got the point across that I was joking. I don't usually dream with my eyes open


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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 23:16
I cant say what my dreams consist of itd be innapropreate, in every meaning of the misspelled word

Ive hit the floor many a time in a dream, (which is meant to be impossible because your meant to wake up other wise you die, but my brain is wierd differently ^^, i have ADHD along with other things lol)

I can wake up and know what everyone is talking about, My brain is constantly 'ticking over/ full throtle really' so i still hear and understand conversations without even knowing.

I also have vivid day dreams the second i stop moving or doing something, its intresting and thats were i see alot of my creations, weird thing is their more like halucinations since everything is still happening normal, everyones still talking, teachers still screaming, just thier both thier...

I dont try to understand my actions, or even the ramifications
Thiers no point, Too much to do, So little time...

Enough of that talk Laz,

ugh why is he here, going to draw now ^^

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Posted: 12th Aug 2009 01:35
I think most people have tried to provide a sensible "filling the blanks after the event" explanation, which I think is probably right. Or they've provided sarcastic humour, which is just as valuable.

If you're really worried about this, it would make sense to keep a detailed dream journal: when you wake up, try to remember your dreams and write them down. Then, you will have a record of what happened in the dream which will be unaffected by events which come after the dream. Then, if something happens which you think you dreamed about, you can go back to the dream journal and see if it really was a red Saab which ran over a Golden Retriever, or if it was just a "car" and an "animal" and your brain jumped to conclusions.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2009 02:11
I think you'll end up being kidnapped by CIA and used in a secret program, either that or you end up in a large cocoon predicting murders.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2009 04:13
Its quite simple really, everything that has happened to you can be attributed to a quantam flux.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/sci_fi_writer_attributes?utm_source=a-section
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Is your sister OK?

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Posted: 12th Aug 2009 23:53
Quote: "All I'm asking for is an answer to what the heck is going on with me."


I think you've got Final Destination Fever.

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Posted: 13th Aug 2009 01:13 Edited at: 13th Aug 2009 01:15
Quote: "Alright, so the other week, I had this dream that my sister would get into a car accident. I blew it off like it was nothing. Then the other day, it happened and until then, I had forgoten about the dream until that moment. The car that hit her in the dream was a white Camery in an intersection. She was hit in an Intersection by a white Camery"

Maybe the dream was a memory of your trial run.
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Quote: "You're the star of a poorly written Nicolas Cage movie. But hey, at least this means you get to date someone much younger than you."

You're the star of a poorly written Tom Cruise movie. But hey, at least this means you get to date someone much younger than you.

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ive had those dreams before,nothing major though

yeah im southern WATCHA GONNA DO BOUT IT?
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Posted: 14th Aug 2009 05:41 Edited at: 14th Aug 2009 06:04
Precognition is a normal human sense, unfortunately it is extremely difficult to consciously manifest, and even when you do have a Precognition Experience (PE), it's very difficult to determine Deja Vu, becuase the person experiencing the PE has a very narrow frame of reference in relation to experiencing the events that are actually occurring as they occur.

I liken this to the experience of a person born blind suddenly gaining their vision. Sure, you can see the objects, and colors, and shadows, but until your mind has a frame of reference defined by experiencing the event itself, your not going to comprehend that the shadow directly ahead of you, is in reality a sudden drop into a deep canyon.

Often one only truly understands the vision or dream after it has come to exist. In the above example, it was your sister, and the White Toyota Camry.

Now if she took you to the accident scene, you might recognize other objects (and people) that you foresaw in your dream, but then again, maybe not. Some of the objects (and people) that were in place during the accident, are no longer present at the accident scene when you arrive there, and/or your conscious mind may unconsciously misplace objects and people from other dreams or visions on account that dreams exist outside of the normal flow of time as your mind consciously perceives time to flow.

Hope that makes some kind of sense for you...

To help a bit more...

Jamais Vu, is the French term meaning Already Seen,you actually at some time in the past have already seen what you are currently looking at, and it is stimulating your mind becuase you have already seen it or experienced it even though you don't remember seeing it. Some of the people who have epileptic siezures or alzheimer's disease may also momentarily forget the person, place, or thing they are looking at, and have an uncanny experience of not recognizing the person, place or thing, yet being subtly aware or "rationally knowing" that they have been in that situation before.

Deja Vu, on the otherhand means Never Seen. You have actually not previously seen what you are currently looking at or viewing. This is a very common experience in dreaming about distant people or places, and then later the recollection of the dream comes unbidden when you are actually visiting the place, or talking to the person, and you remember the dream, and then everything comes together from the dream and it makes sense for you.

Finally there's Presque Vu. This is an instance of knowing something that can not be immediatly recalled from memory, or is having a word that you know on the tip of your tongue, but you can't speak it or recall it and have to pause to reconstruct events related to that word so you can remember it to properly vocalize it.
Inaccessibility and the sense of imminence in being able to recall the word or thought is the key defining element of Presque Vu.

These are common human experiences reported and recorded by hundreds of thousands of people over the course of human history. In some cases being able to merely identify your emotional state as you experience these remarkable events will alert you that you are possibly viewing an event that is already predestined to occur in the near future. If this happens, stay alert, as your moment of Deja Vu may give the slimmest advantage of reflexes to avert or avoid a situation that may have negative consequences.

This stuff is coded into your genes, and properly acknowledged as such, will enhance your prospects for success and survival.

P.S. really great DBPro coders experience all three simultaneously as they are coding... Every once in awhile, they talk about being in the zone.... This is what they are referring to.
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Posted: 14th Aug 2009 06:01
I think you got your answers Storm4...


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Hey guys, sorry I haven't answered since the post but I haven't checked my email lately so I didn't know what was going on. Anyway, thanks for all the answers. Next month, I go in for my physical so I'll ask the doc. And ya, my sister is fine. Only a few bruises.

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Quote: "Jamais Vu, is the French term meaning Already Seen,"


Quote: "Deja Vu, on the otherhand means Never Seen."


You might want to brush up on your French. Déjà vu means "already seen," while jamais vu means "never seen."

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Quote: "You might want to brush up on your French. Déjà vu means "already seen," while jamais vu means "never seen.""


Someone can use Google Translate...

(No really, if you type that into Google translate, "never seen" does come up.)
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Quote: "You're the star of a poorly written Tom Cruise movie. But hey, at least this means you get to date someone much younger than you.
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Atleast he has had better movies then Wickerman.



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Posted: 15th Aug 2009 02:05 Edited at: 15th Aug 2009 02:06
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You might want to brush up on your French. Déjà vu means "already seen," while jamais vu means "never seen."
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@Mahoney, quite right.... Thanks for the correction!

So that means most folks that dream of distant people or places and then actually visit that distant person or place are really experiencing Jamais Vu, and not (As is often portrayed in modern literature) Deja Vu?
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Quote: ""You might want to brush up on your French. Déjà vu means "already seen," while jamais vu means "never seen."""


On ne sait jamais...


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Quote: "So that means most folks that dream of distant people or places and then actually visit that distant person or place are really experiencing Jamais Vu, and not (As is often portrayed in modern literature) Deja Vu?"


So, jamais vu is a dream precognition, and deja vu is the feeling you've done something before?

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Quote: "So, jamais vu is a dream precognition, and deja vu is the feeling you've done something before?"


Correct.

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