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Omega gamer 89
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Posted: 14th Sep 2009 21:29
Oh dear. Not good news, in my opinion. First movie was good, but it was all down hill from there ...

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Oh, hopefully Spiderman will have a roll in this movie. Otherwise Disney's recent purchase will be worthless.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2009 21:36
Quote: "Oh, hopefully Spiderman will have a roll in this movie."


A barrel roll maybe?

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Posted: 14th Sep 2009 21:52
hopefully this will inspire gil galvanti to realese a demo of pirates of port royal.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2009 22:45
Jack: "Arrghh, where's me Rum gone?"

Spidey: "Sorry Jack, it's for your own good."

Jack: "I'll keel-haul ye for steal me rum."

Spidey: "I'm outta here." *Swings off of a mast."

Buzz: "Don't worry, Jack, intergalactic evil will be destroyed. Two Infinity and Beyond!"

Woody: "Buzz, you can't fly, you're just a Toy!"

-Well Disney need to utilise their investments, after all.

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The third Pirates film was literally one of the worst films ever made. "Can't polish a turd".

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I thought the first one was bad enough and didn't bother seeing any others. I hate magical pirate movies more than most other genres. Are there any good REAL pirate movies out there?


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Am I the only one kinda excited for another Pirates movie? The only Pirates movie I didn't really like was the 2nd one. 1 was excellent and 3 was pretty good too. I think a Jack centered 4th installment will be great.

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Not to be mean, but can someone explain the appeal of a "fantasy" pirate movie? If you can just write magic into a movie, what is entertaining about it? I guess I just don't "get it", and would much rather watch a historical movie about Vikings


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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 01:38 Edited at: 15th Sep 2009 01:47
Quote: "I thought the first one was bad enough and didn't bother seeing any others. I hate magical pirate movies more than most other genres. Are there any good REAL pirate movies out there?"

You aren't alone in that, Jeku. I have the same thoughts, but magical stuff is in. Just look at Star wars, LOTR and Harry Potter. Very successful names. Not a big fan (except for star wars since I grew up on it), then again I have never seen any LOTR or Potter movie, but I've been spammed from every imaginable angle with ads, soundbytes, trailers, youtube inserts, OST, being around people that have, and talk about it...etc. I kind of feel like I have seen them now. Anyway, I guess my point is that we're a dying breed and that "real" movies don't sell as well.

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Quote: "would much rather watch a historical movie about Vikings"

You should watch Outlander then.
Vikings VS aliens, how more historically accurate can you get? And they speak English.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 01:51 Edited at: 15th Sep 2009 01:55
The way I see it, the movies are trying to portray the fantasy behind the myths. It's not about "fantasy" in a real life scenario, but about the mythology that surrounds it.
It's like making a movie about the Trojan War ignoring the mythology that surrounds it.
Oh wait... it's been done...
and it sucked.

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Much of the fantasy in "Pirates of the Caribbean" is based on the book "Treasure Island", which is one hell of a novel, and by today standards one the few "compilations" on pirate lore.
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Quote: "Jack: "Arrghh, where's me Rum gone?"

Spidey: "Sorry Jack, it's for your own good."

Jack: "I'll keel-haul ye for steal me rum."

Spidey: "I'm outta here." *Swings off of a mast."

Buzz: "Don't worry, Jack, intergalactic evil will be destroyed. Two Infinity and Beyond!"

Woody: "Buzz, you can't fly, you're just a Toy!"

-Well Disney need to utilise their investments, after all. "


I laughed so freakin hard!

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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 02:29
Calm down Zeus, it was just a joke.
...Hmm, seems I used that phrase in the wrong situation...


But on topic-
The Pirates movies seemed fine to me. I never really saw amazing potential in them after the first one, but other people seemed to fancy it. This lead to people forcing me to watch the sequels on DVD, although, I barely enjoyed any of it. Johnny Depp was pretty funny, though.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 05:18 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2018 05:08
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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 05:25
Quote: "...why does everyone on this forum have such weird taste in films? The Pirates movies are one of Disney's biggest successes, and are hugely popular."


Because as we all know, the most popular movies are always the best!

Quote: "but I can see it is not properly appreciated."


Dude, chill. If you post your opinion on something subjective be prepared for people to disagree with you


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Quote: "Because as we all know, the most popular movies are always the best!
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Lies. Some of the best movies I've seen in my life I had never even seen advertised once before.

And yes, I can;t bloody wait for this.
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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 07:28
I think Jeku was being sarcastic.

I don't really care about Pirates of the Caribbean. I saw the first two, but was only moderately entertained. So I passed on the third, and I probably will on the fourth as well.

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I think Pirates of the Carribean is a really good series. I think the characters are really well developed, the sound track is awesome and fitting, and the dialogue is cool. Still... that's not to say it doesn't have it's faults. I can definitely relate to the people that hate it...

hopefully the fourth movie will wrap up what the first three movies alluded to... if not, then i think i'll have lost all faith in the series

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Well, I don't HATE the series. I just don't care.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 10:29
Quote: "Not to be mean, but can someone explain the appeal of a "fantasy" pirate movie? If you can just write magic into a movie, what is entertaining about it? I guess I just don't "get it", and would much rather watch a historical movie about Viking"


Not Pathfinder, obviously.

For a 'good' Pirate film, I always thought Hook to be great, at least it's one of my favourite films from my childhood. If not, then of course to each his own.

For the 'appeal' of magic in a film, is perhaps similar to magic in a book, it's an escapism into some kind of fantasy world, I mean 'magic' probably applies to the imagination, whilst not obeying too many physical laws or our understanding of the world. For stuff like Hook and Peter Pan, there's the appeal for entering another world through a sense of adventure. Some of it can be wishful thinking, like "wouldn't it be cool if you could fly?" Stuff like the Kraken come from mythology, so obviously there's appeal in the magic of old stories and tall tales of greater and scarier things, perhaps we find the same appeal as the audience of those listening to old storytellers, whose stories were developed into literature by those like Homer and Ovid and inspired other stories that we continually see today. Magic can also be metaphorical too or represent some other meaning or work to convey a plot device. At least that's my short analysis of it. As for the pirates, I don't really know, people like to act crazy? Perhaps its the adventurous rouge image of pirating? We dressed as pirates and Vikings to see a Viking metal band supported by a Pirate metal band, so there's something theatrical about them.


Also, I did like the Pirates of the Carribean movies, (if that makes Omega feel better about his thread) but I'm not excited about a 4th, because I think it would be milking the idea too much, or at least in my opinion.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2009 10:56
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Ah, yes I see that now. God I'm slow sometimes.
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@Jeku
While Master and Commander is not a pirate movie, they're still on big old galleons firing at each other with canon and shot. It's very realistic and a good solid movie. So that's probably the closest thing!

As for popular movies, such as the Pirate's series, there is nothing wrong with them. They are packed full of entertainment. It's just, if you're a hardened film buff and you've seen a lot of movies, they are dull. I literally fell asleep watching Pirates 3 after the 2 hour point.

For the casual film watcher - Pirate series is great.

For the hardcore film watcher, who's seen it all before, they're lacking any convincing drama, so there's no hook.

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Quote: "While Master and Commander is not a pirate movie, they're still on big old galleons firing at each other with canon and shot. It's very realistic and a good solid movie. So that's probably the closest thing!"


Yes, I agree, that was a great movie and I would recommend it to anyone


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Master and Commander was a very good movie, so I'd also have to recommend it. Though it gets me thinking, we do need a good 'serious' pirate movie, not a 'fun' ol' Jolly Roger, yo ho ho and a bottle rum, sort of pirate movie. Though ignore me if one exists and I've just missed it is all.

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I think it'd be cool to see what happens with Jack as Davey Jones. Beyond that I'm not really a fan. It's surprising what looks good when you're in the cinema.

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The last two movies were just as epic as the first! I loved the whole series

I heard that the reason Will and Elizabeth aren't in these ones is because both Bloom and Knightly didn't want to come back... I was like what??? How could you ever not want to come back for this? What other blockbuster movies are they doing right now?

Either way, I'm looking forwarding to seeing where the series goes from here. TBH, I'm not sure what they would do with Will and Elizabeth if they did come back. What's more to say about Davy Jones? I'm sure their kid will be in it though.

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Quote: "I hate magical pirate movies more than most other genres."

the one thing worse than magical pirate movies is magical pirate movies with faries and little kids, that, at the age of 50 are still dressing up as an elf and thinking there superman
*cough*peter pan*cough*.

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Ice pirates for the win.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2009 02:48 Edited at: 16th Sep 2009 02:50
Quote: "I hate magical pirate movies more than most other genres. Are there any good REAL pirate movies out there?"

No because real pirates are boring... Link
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yeah that's pretty boring.
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Quote: "Though it gets me thinking, we do need a good 'serious' pirate movie, not a 'fun' ol' Jolly Roger, yo ho ho and a bottle rum, sort of pirate movie."


I remember seeing one movie once on TV, I don't know whether it was popular or not or how old it is, I'm pretty sure it was called Blackbeard. I thought it was pretty good. And it must have ran for about 3 hours.
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I vaguely remember that. It wasn't memorable (surprise surprise!) I think it was a 'made for TV' movie. Good shout though ... that's definitely the only suggestion we've had for a real pirate movie.

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Haha, someone should really make a movie about a band of somali's sitting it out on an oil tanker for months
Preferably a really long one, matching in on Ben Hur and that hilariously long greenlandish movie which, as I remember it, lacked nearly any kind of storyline.

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Quote: "I remember seeing one movie once on TV, I don't know whether it was popular or not or how old it is, I'm pretty sure it was called Blackbeard. I thought it was pretty good. And it must have ran for about 3 hours."


I've heard of Blackbeard's Ghost, and that was just a stupid film, but not the film Blackbeard.

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[quote]I honestly wonder why my taste in movies is so contrary to almost everyone else on this forum.quote]

Quite honestly, my answer is because you have bad taste in films.

Pirates 3 was an absolute mess by the way.

Jeku: these are British but they are the best sea faring tales every committed to screen: [href=null]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornblower_(TV_series)[/href]

Same idea as Master & Commander except better. It is the guy from Fantastic Four before he "made it" in the states, plus a guy from Battlestar Galactica, same deal.

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@Drew - Thanks for the recommendation!


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Posted: 18th Sep 2009 03:20 Edited at: 18th Sep 2009 03:28
No worries man. I REALLY like any kind of maritime based drama - not fantasy stuff, more like Master and COmmander, but it is in scarce supply. Hornblower is the best of the genre!

[EDIT] Just to get a taste, you can check out an episode on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhMonrQP92Y&feature=related. If you enjoy it maybe buy the boxset or something. I just ordered it now after remembing how much I enjoyed the series when it was on TV.

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I forgot about hornblower! Good shout drewster. It's lower budget, of course ... in the same league as Sharpe, isn't it? But it's British after all, and we are poor.

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Meh, I haven't even watched the 3rd one yet.

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