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Van B
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Posted: 15th Nov 2002 13:15
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Hmm, everyone seems to love Chaos Engine, don't get me wrong, I love it too - but I don't think it was the Bitmap Brothers best work.

Gods was great.
Magic Pockets was ok, but it did'nt have the right pace for a platform game.
Speedball2 and Xenon2 were both incredible.
But the icing on the cake for me was Cadaver, I love that game, the whole feel of it was so much fun. The creatures were great too - especially the slimy ones, it's amazing what quality of graphics they could manage with 32 colours (or 16 on the ST!). Simply the 2nd best isometric adventure game in history, the first would be Head Over Heels.


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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 15th Nov 2002 19:25
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I prefered Alien Breeds to Chaos Engine myself - sorry but way more fun, plus they made that cool Squeal! when you killed them

Speedball2 was outstanding
You played the remake of that on the PC? Its interesting, but really lacks the put speed that 2 had ...
Xenon2 i still have on a 5.25" somwhere for the PC, along with that annoyingly addictive Titus the Fox.

Ya know best ISO i remember on any format was Space Crusade, before i actually learnt that Warhammer was a tabletop game ... was pretty cool thou.

Though, really best games i remember cross platform were Leisure Suit Larry also remember my mom came in once when he was having sex with that hocker, she took one look at that big CENSORED box and Clipped me round the back of the head - didn't see my Amiga for almost a month

Anata aru kowagaru no watashi!
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DarkSith
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Posted: 18th Nov 2002 11:43
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Guess what Bitmap Brothers said about other formats...
"We have no plans to bring it out on other platforms at this time." Sucks doesn't it.

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Van B
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Posted: 18th Nov 2002 12:31
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I gotta get a GBA.

They're releasing/released Gods, Magic Pockets and Speedball2 for the GBA too. They look great.






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Freddix
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Posted: 18th Nov 2002 14:45
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I I've just seen you post about Amos !
And I want to tell some words . . .

I someone want Infos about Amiga I can Help . . .
I planned to make an Amos2DB converter tool . . .
But i will start it on beginning 2003 . . .

For you "rraatt" , I can tell you that My Amiga 1200 Tower is still alive and a bit "boosted" !
Amiga 1200 Os 3.1
+ Blizzard PPC board : 68040/25Mhz + PowerPC604E/233Mhz
+ Blizzard Vision PPC : 8Mo Permedia 2 graphic card
+ 128MO EDO Ram ( 2x64Edo 60ns )
+ CD-Rom 52x Max IDE
+ SCSI Writer 4x TEAC
+ Hard Drive 4Go SCSI2
+ Amiga OS 3.9
+ Warp OS 4.0 ( PPc os )
+ CyberGraphX 4.xx ( Graphics card drivers )
+ Warp3D ( = Open GL Amiga )
I also own Amos and AmoPro
( I coded extensions using 680x0 assembler in the past . . . )
And full of source code made with . . .

I often play to "WipeOut 2097" on my cool Amiga !
I Also play old games too ! ( beast , turrican )
( I'm looking to buy old original amiga games ! )

And to tell people that don't know !
NEW AMIGA IS NOW AVAILABLE : PEGASOS !

It is an ATX based board with PowerPC G3/G4 600Mhz
AGP + PCI Ports
and full 680x0 Software emulation made by PowerPC Processor and MorphOS ( 680x0 os emulation for PPC . . . )
Cybergraphx drivers now support some PC graphics cards like some ATIs.
AHI support some sound cards based on SB128 style
It exist software for som USB PC devices to work under new amigas . . .

Here is all for the moment . . .

. . . Amiga Is Back For The Future .
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EdzUp
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Posted: 18th Nov 2002 21:26
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Still got me A1200 setup =) (mine is a standard A1200, 32Mb Ram, 68030 50Mhz accelerator, 32xCDrom, High density floppy, 3x external floppies (1 high density), 400W PSU )

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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 11:58
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Van B: The emulator and game didn't work. Has anyone got the PC version or an amiga version running on their PC that they could email me?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 11:59
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Van B: The emulator didn't run the game. Does anyone have the PC version or an Amiga version running on their PC?

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Van B
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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 12:40
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Hmmm, worked perfectly for me.

What happened?


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Freddix
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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 13:23
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which winuae version do you own ?
Van B you should send him the confi file for that game so it should work for him.
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Van B
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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 14:38
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It was an ST emulator, should work fine simply by installing, selecting the TOS file, then opening the chaos engine .ST file. STeem is a lot easier to use than WinUAE.


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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 16:32
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Van B: The game didn't work, I don't suppose anyone has The Chaos Engine running on an Amiga Emulator or have the PC version do they?

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So many long posts I wish I had time to read it I will print and read later lol

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Freddix
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Posted: 19th Nov 2002 17:22
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under Winuae , I've created typical configs :
Amiga 500
Amiga 600
Amiga 1200
When I want to install a new game , I just load one of these config ( depending of the game ) , I added the disk file and save the modified config with the game name . . .
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DarkSith
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Posted: 20th Nov 2002 11:37
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Hmm, I used to have an Amiga A600. Do you have this? Do you also have Chaos Engine and/or Chaos Engine 2?

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Posted: 20th Nov 2002 12:19
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I'll take a look and send you correct config for UAE to work with that game.
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Posted: 20th Nov 2002 12:38
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Ummm... What's UAE?

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Posted: 25th Nov 2002 13:45
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WinUAE is a windows Amiga emulator, stands for Universal Amiga Emulator I think. It uses setup files for each game to allow individual memory and display setups. It can get a little confusing, but once you get a game working it's just a case of saving the setup and using it to run the game.

In my local game, there was some Amiga compilations, hundreds of games and a copy of WinUAE to run them on. Meant to buy that too , they're not there anymore.


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Freddix
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Posted: 25th Nov 2002 14:20
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yes but don't forget that there are several Amiga models .

Amiga 1000 Kickstart on disks.
Amiga 500 Rom 1.2 ECS/OCS
Amiga 500 Rom 1.3 ECS/OCS
Amiga 2000 Rom 1.3 ECS/OCS
Amiga 500+ Rom 2.0 ECS/OCS
Amiga 600 Rom 2.1 ECS/OCS
Amiga 3000 Rom 2.1 ECS/OCS
Amiga 1200 Rom 3.0 AGA
Amiga 1200 Rom 3.1 AGA
Amiga 4000 Rom 3.5 AGA
Amiga CD32 = Amiga 1200 without keyboard nor mouse

Each Amiga is a different configuration set.
some olds games like "Cauldron" ( if I remind ) can only work with rom 1.2
Amiga 500 games ( Rom 1.x ) are not sure to work woth Rom 2.x or 3.x ( work with JST or WHDLOAD )
Amiga AGA games don't work with Rom older than 3.0
som AGA games don't work with rom 3.0 , only with 3.1
some Amiga CD32 don't work with Amiga 1200 config with fast ram

and other restrictions can be found . . .
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Posted: 25th Nov 2002 15:50
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I got an A500 fully working with 200+ something games I think.

[url]www.digaw.com[/url]
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