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Fallout
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Anyone got a remedy for being eye-tired? I'm talking about the tiredness when you've been using the computer for far too long over a period of days, and no matter how much sleep you get, and no matter how physically awake you feel, your eyes are so knackered you can't keep em open. Too much computer.

Any cheeky remedies apart from steroids, sitting on a spike or sado-masochism? Fresh air, cigarettes, beer, caffine, beating myself around the head with wooden and metal bars, watching TV, going for a drive, eating, playing games, arguing with people, singing, pretending to be a ninja, and pointing and laughing at strangers has no effect. Obviously the real remedy is less computer ......... but come on. What kind of a suggestion is that?

So come on. I want sensible suggestions like lying down on the M3, washing my face in a deep fat fryer, and eating nothing but prunes for a week.

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Posted: 1st Sep 2003 05:31 Edited at: 1st Sep 2003 05:31
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How about placing your testicals in a vice and then tighten up until your eyes bulge out just enough so you can see your monitor clearly.

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Go out, get some fresh air, play with your pet. Read a few books (I personally suggest the Harry Potter and Pendragon books), or just bring a notepad to the middle of the park, and think about random things. Jot every thought down and by the end of the day, not only should you have sunburn on the back of your neck, but you should have enough ideas to make a decent game.



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Fallout
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Easily Confused method is obvious fool proof, but I did say no sado-masochism. hehe.

As for reading ... that puts me to sleep. I seriously have never really read a book except for those at school. I hate reading. It's not my inability to be imaginative while reading, it's just the slow pace and the fact my eyes get tired and I fall asleep! Not the desired result. But the notepad one is ok. Occasionally I go outside and sit in the garden when the weather is nice with a notepad, but unfortunately that always had to be with a beer, which puts me to sleep too.

In fact, everything puts me to sleep. Maybe I need one of them electrocuting dog collars?

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Read the book The Giver, it shouldnt put you to sleep if you follow the story. Its a great book too.



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Why don't you do what you always do when you think of me.

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Quote: "Maybe I need one of them electrocuting dog collars?"

...hark who's talking about no sado-masochism. All you need then is a leash and a whip hehe

OK how about these:
1) Listening to heavy metal music at full volume through headphones.
2) Stapling your eyelids to your forehead.
3) Sit on a block of ice for 3 hours.
4) Tie one end of a piece of string to your head and the other down your back to your underpants, so every time you nod off you give yourself a wedgie.
5) Hanging from the ceiling by your eyelids.
6) Adopt a dozen babies.
7) Hanging from the ceiling by your testicals. (a bit hard to type anything like that)
8) Allow motorway traffic to pass through your bedroom.
9) Ware soiled nappies around your kneck. (see item 6)
10) Get half a dozen cats, half a dozen dogs and lock them in the room with you.

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you may need glasses, or a different persription if you already wear glasses.

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How about Eye drops?


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I got reading glasses. I paid £80 for em. And I can't really tell a difference when they're off or on. The optician said "it's only a small prescription". I mean, no sh*t. The lenses are thinner than posh spice.

Anyway, Easily ...

1) Listening to heavy metal music at full volume through headphones.Drum'n'bass fan here. That's what comes out my car stereo. Doesnt work either. Vibrations send me to sleep.
2) Stapling your eyelids to your forehead.
Another fool proof method. Only bad point obviously is if something flies towards my eyes, and I'm unable to close them. too much of a risk.
3) Sit on a block of ice for 3 hours.
Oooooo ... good one. Except for the closeness to sado-masochism, and the fact I'll probably end up like leonardo in Titanic.
4) Tie one end of a piece of string to your head and the other down your back to your underpants, so every time you nod off you give yourself a wedgie.
I said no sado!!! Although that's cunning. Very cunning .... yes disturbed.
5) Hanging from the ceiling by your eyelids.
Brilliant, but I'd like to keep my lids intact.
6) Adopt a dozen babies.
Clever, although slightly messy, and potentially going to land me in jail.
7) Hanging from the ceiling by your testicals. (a bit hard to type anything like that)
... and just as hard to read. I'm only letting you off because of your other clever suggestions. Had this been on its own, I would've never spoken to you again, before killing you, and tell your family you were a victim of a homophobic attack.
8) Allow motorway traffic to pass through your bedroom.
This is probably the best suggestion yet. The only problem being dimensions. You obviously have no spacial awareness, do you?
9) Ware soiled nappies around your kneck. (see item 6)
Tried it. But I'm out of Vanish now, so maybe after my next trip to Tesco.
10) Get half a dozen cats, half a dozen dogs and lock them in the room with you.
Clever again, but messy.

Anyway, thanks for those suggestions. I'll try out the motorway one if I can find a room big enough. Then after shopping on wednesday, I'll try number 9.

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That's a problem indeed. Your eyes won't juse ache, they wear out faster. You don't want to have bad vision by the time you're 30...

What I do:

Palm. Cover your eyes with your palms so no light comes through the cracks and face a light source for five minutes. Gently massage the skin around your eye sockets.

Look out the window. Take a break and look out the window for 5 to 10 minutes. Sunlight is a cure for almost everything, and particularly if you can see green out of your window it'll really help you.

Water. Dip a washcloth in hot water and cover your eyes with it (closed of course) until the cloth has gone down to room temperature.


I seriously suggest all of those. They are easy and they really help. Don't waste your cash on drugs or glasses for problems like this... there is almost always a healthier, easier, smarter and better way.

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I forgot a few things--

Low light. Computer monitors are very bright. Make sure the room around you is light when you're using them or they will hurt your eyes. Don't try to read books in the dark either, it strains your eyes.

Distance. Try to read as far away as you can be comfortably, that includes books and monitors. I've been reading books and using my computer to excess since I learned how to read, and this is what has kept me with 20/20 vision for all this time.

And altogether, try to get a bit of sunlight each day, whether it's walking the dog or taking the trash out. It really does help.

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2) Stapling your eyelids to your forehead.
Another fool proof method. Only bad point obviously is if something flies towards my eyes, and I'm unable to close them. too much of a risk.
Then duck!

1) Listening to heavy metal music at full volume through headphones.Drum'n'bass fan here.
Actualy I'm a soundtrack person, John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and others, but I do play them loud, and when the neighbours are not in, even louder.

3) Sit on a block of ice for 3 hours.
Oooooo ... good one. Except for the closeness to sado-masochism, and the fact I'll probably end up like leonardo in Titanic.
What...end up as a lousy actor?

8) Allow motorway traffic to pass through your bedroom.
This is probably the best suggestion yet. The only problem being dimensions. You obviously have no spacial awareness, do you?
Ah, when you're an insomniac like me, you are aware of nothing. (yawn!)

9) Ware soiled nappies around your kneck. (see item 6)
Tried it. But I'm out of Vanish now, so maybe after my next trip to Tesco.
I used some of that on my table...no wait...that's varnish.

Hmmm, yes there IS a disturbing trend of sado in what I posted

I wish you luck in your continuing quest for the secret of insomnia. I wish I could give you mine, but I can't throw that far.

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i think there are special glasses for being in front of the computer and staying unaffected...

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Try this (because it does actually work) - if you're getting a lot of red-eye very quickly it's because your eyes are dry. Sitting close to a monitor will do this. The remedy is surprisingly simple - just get a bowl of water (nothing too large, a breakfast bowl size will do) and place it on your desk. That's it. The water will evaporate into the air and will add moisture to your eyes (without you even realising it). When the waters half gone, replace it.

Simple, cheap and works. I thank my Optician for that trick.

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i just use my visine eyedrops.. they work just as well.. and take less room then a bowl of water

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Hey, I bought this flat panel plasma and it gave me huge amount of extra space (as it is my room is packed ... have a look. hehe)



But I think the flat panel creates just enough room for a bowl of water. Cheers rich, I might try that out.

By the way Mr.Easy ... I don't have insomnia. I'm a sleep anywhere, anytime kind of person (probably the type of person insomniacs hate). It's just my eyes that feel like they never sleep.

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Quote: "What...end up as a lousy actor?"
Ok, going off topic for awhile, I must simple take offence to this staement. No I'm not some screaming teenage girl, or do enjoy the company of men. I just think he's one decent actor, a smart one too. He relized that his image was becoming a teen heart throb, that's why he left the movie scene for a while. You must remember some of the movies this guy has been in, "The Basketbal Dairy", "Gangs of New York", and possibly one of the best acting prefomances I've seen, "What's Eating Gilbert Grape", were he playes a 18 yr old retarted boy. One can not forget the fact that he's a great actor, and solely focus on a sigle movie that earned a record tieing 11 Actomy Awards.


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Neat, Rich, I'll try that. Anything to keep my eyes in my skull

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I don't think Easy was being all that serious. I might have dropped that comment too (Leonardo being crap), if the situation gave me the opportunity, but I must agree that I don't think he's a bad actor. Mind you, my opinion of acting is that we all know for 100% certain that these people are just pretending, so therefore I think it's subjective as to whether someone is a good actor or not.

One person can think someone is a poor actor, because they don't believe their performance while another person can be totally taken in by it. I think it works in a similar way to how some people can tell if a particular person is lying, when another can't. It's also based on where you're from, how the people around you speak. For example, I bet when you Americans see people playing british actors in American films, a lot of you are convinced, where as being British myself, the performance is totally see-through. Vice versa too. I'm sure there are british actors who have pretended to be american in our TV programs, and I've been taken in where as you guys might've spotted they were faking it.

So basically, we all know they're faking it. We all know its one big lie. It's all down to the individual of how convincing you find that lie. I mean, some people are blatently crap actors, but for the rest its definitely subjective.

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HAHAHA Easily confused made me laugh for quite a long time with those ideas, but thanks to you I have baby sh*t on my neck, no nut sack, a pile up involving a truck and and my dogs in my living room, no eyelids, turd on the floor and staples in my head

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OK Arrow, I admit that was a bit harsh, I take it back. If you promise not to send thousands of screaming leonardo fans after me armed with rusty knives and various kitchen appliances then I promise never to speak of him again

(takes a look out the window to see if anyone is armed with a microwave)

Looking at your picture there Fallout, I'm not surprised your eyes suffer, a very dark work area. Or is it a lousy camera

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Its both. My camera sucks in low light and the area is dark too. I'm on the side of the house that gets the least sun, the work area is also in a little kinda gap set into the room, and the paint scheme is dark green. Add it all up, and I'm working in nuclear winter conditions.

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a dark room like that with a bright lumus on your monitor will give you sore eyes for sure and incorrect balance of light in your applications and print documents.


invest in a bright hallogen lamp if you cant afford a skylight.

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Call me 'Mr state the bleedin' obvious' if you like but if you are falling asleep then why don't you let yourself sleep? Then when you wake up you will be refreshed and ready for another 50 hours infront of your PC!

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Dont worry. I get about 9 hours a night!

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9 hours a night! And your eyes still feel like dropping out?

OK, suggestions part two:
11) Get Bootcamp employees to shout at you all day.
12) Drink 2 pints of water every hour.
13) Capture 100 mosquitos and release them into the bedroom.
14) Balance your chair on a pole, so if you nod off, you fall off.
15) Eat 12 cans of beans and sit next to a lit candle (make sure you have some form of house insurance when the doors and windows blow out)
16) Buy 1440 alarm clocks and set them to go off every minute.
17) Place a webcam at the foot of the bed and become paranoid about being watched while sleeping.
18) Develope haemorrhiods (if you have tried item 3 then you maybe already experiencing this)
19) Give yourself a good laugh by reading one of Raven's flaming posts (shhh Don't tell him I said that)
20) Buy an electric waist toning belt and leave it on all day (your ass may not get a workout but at least you'll end up with fantastic abs)

That's it, I'm out of ideas now, if none of those work then, well...my god man, you can't be human

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Easy ... why do I get the feeling you don't have any problem thinking up ideas for games? Some of those ideas are games in themselves - the candle farting one for one. Twice as creative as quake and almost as lethal.

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