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nitrohaze
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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 17:58
Casting my mind back a few years now.....there use to be a fairly active forum member called Raven. He used to spark of the odd heated debate or two.

Whatever happened to him? does anyone know?

Its strange how people come and go.
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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 18:02
I have him as a friend on Xbox Live though we haven't talked in months. Dunno where he's at. He tends to drop in occasionally IIRC, but I haven't seen him in ages either.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 18:06 Edited at: 29th Nov 2009 18:07
Perhaps he flew the coop?



I remember him quite well and also wonder what happened to him. Perhaps he's just been too busy with that "outside world" or whatever to post.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 18:09
quoth the raven? or just raven?

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 18:12
He asploded, made a right bloody mess.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 18:43
He's still around. Do a Google forum search for Raven (and/or Shadow Robert?).
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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 20:21
Thanks all, its funny how people seem to vanish his posts usually made me laugh.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 21:22
I think to do that, he'd have to take up DBPro.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 22:30
Yeah he's Shadow Robert now on here.

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Posted: 29th Nov 2009 23:42
I miss his really really really really long, intelligent forum posts that people were too intimidated to read. D:

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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 10:17 Edited at: 30th Nov 2009 10:17
Quote: "intelligent"



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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 11:01 Edited at: 30th Nov 2009 11:01
I e-mailed him(her/it do we REALLY know???) about EVE a week ago and he responded.

So he's definitely alive. I think he just got bored of these forums.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 12:55
He was a he! He was intelligent. He knew a lot of stuff! But he also liked to fill in all the blanks of his knowledge with complete made up waffle, and pass it off as gospel. I live with a guy that does that, and it's a characteristic I DESPISE in people. If you don't know something, don't pretend you do for kudos. Nobody likes a know-it-all .. especially a wannabie know-it-all.

I remember reading loads of his waffle, knowing it was rubbish, but not knowing enough about the subject to really argue back. I didn't care enough to do research. Then once he tried to tell everyone about his extensive knowledge of sound engineering - one of the areas I do know a lot about, having written electronic music since 1995. Then I put him in his place.

Ahhh. So long a go. I'm glad he's not around anymore. Wannabie know-it-alls are the ultimate losers.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 13:09
You can't put Raven in his place, you can only make him ignore a thread. Proove him wrong, definitively, and he just shuts up .

To be fair, Raven is a lot less outlandish than he was a few years ago, or maybe it's just tougher to get people to believe him these days.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 15:23
I remember him as Raven Vegeta, and he convinced me(when I was still a teen) that he worked for a lot of major gaming company's. Though I could never prove it considering I didn't know his real name.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 15:53
Quote: "or maybe it's just tougher to get people to believe him these days."


It would be, considering he thinks computing systems are octal, not binary, because bytes are eight bits

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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 15:56
Well, I suppose addressing is/pointers are... as you can not address anything smaller than a byte... in a wierd, irrelevant manner. But the actual instructions and operations in a microprocessor are binary...

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Posted: 30th Nov 2009 17:10
I just remember several years of being strung along by his E3 threads where he was promising to show media from his supposed highly ambitious games. It seemed like every day his hard drive crashed, his internet was down, his capture card was fried, etc etc and everyone lost interest. Then the next year rolled around and it was a new E3 thread.

I've played a few GOW games online with him and he seems like a decent person--- but just so many of his lofty promises and wild claims lost steam in the end.


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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 14:51
Its quite interesting reading all the comments above, some people obviosuly liked him and others not so.

You will always find this in any forum, however to provoke so much discussion shows that he was the sort of user who made forums what they are, a free open expression of opinion. Which is a good thing, and its a shame to lose forum members like this whatever you think of the individual.

I would welcome him back, and more like him.
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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 15:16
Settle down Nitro! - rose coloured spectacles off this instant!

It's one thing to be a prolific and opinionated forum user, it's something altogether different to ignore posts that prove you wrong, to ignore threads that don't go your way, to disappear when you loose an argument, then return months later with no recollection, other than a Raven flavored version of events.

He's like family.

Everyone has a relative that talks complete rubbish, but people just don't have the heart to put them right, at least most people. We all know people who talk garbage and never have to face it, because making them face it is like rubbing a puppies nose in it's own poop - unpleasant for both parties, and all the puppy remembers is the poop stuck to it's nose hair for 4 days. We tried everything from kindness to outright bullying and nothing changed.
It was all fairly harmless stuff though, just him trying to impress people, sometimes by making people who are right, think they are wrong, which is always fun I suppose. At the end of the day I'd rather have someone with a handful of genuine knowledge post in a thread - and Raven would be more like that, more useful to society, if he just stuck to what he knows 100%.


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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 15:49 Edited at: 1st Dec 2009 15:49
^ What Van B said. Offer your wisdom if you have it. If you don't, by all means offer your thoughts on the subject, but always prefix "Cars actually run on fart gas" with one of the following:

- I think that,
- It's possible that,
- At a guess,
- I might be wrong but,
- This is just speculation, but

etc!

Perhaps the fart gas one was a bad example. After all, I know through extensive experience in the automotive industry, driving F1 cars and helping Enzo Ferrari design all of his best supercars that fart gas is the best fuel, and is used in all the best cars, especially electric ones, which have the best internal combustion engines.

I'm wrong? No, actually, I'm right because I worked for 18 years for Ford in the states, and helped design all their fart gas combustion engines from the ground up, and they were made from wood, and before that I worked for BP, where we were drilling for oil, but it was always hushed up that fart gas was better than petrol as a fuel, but we kept that to ourselves. I was paid off not to mention it, and had to kill 8 people. I am a ninja.

What? What's this? A blueprint of how a combustion engine actually works? Well of course .. I made that. You can tell, since it's blue, and I invented blue, and green.

What's this? Categorical proof you say that I'm talking rubbish?

Anyway, this years E3 game I'm working on ...

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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 16:17
Quote: "I am a ninja"

Haha! Was anyone around when he was having a power struggle in his Jedi training dojo? His 'master' like, died or went on vacation, and he became the supreme Jedi Lord. At least, that's what he thought, until someone as nerdy as him challenged him for the position. According to Raven.

Your post is spot on classic Raven. He mixes in fictional facts with real words, it makes it hard for people that don't know him to sort it out. He is also quite skilled at saying nothing with an entire screen worth of text, winding around ambiguously like a shady politician.


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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 18:22
Quote: "fairly active forum member called Raven"
"Fairly active"? Hardeharhar

Quote: "I miss his really really really really long, intelligent forum posts"
Yeah, me too. Made people not notice my long rambling paragraphs quite so much...

Oh, and I think he got fed up with the forum or something. Probably the constant negative comments when he would announce a release (or put back the date).

I liked him though. Good bloke (probably, but could have been a frustrated bird I suppose...)

Also, quite interestingly, did Indi ever come back in any shape or form?

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I remember Raven as well, he was an interesting fellow. Anybody else remember Mullvalen, Teemu, TK and TMC? They were for some reason people I looked up to back when I first joined RGT.

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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 19:04
While we're on the subject of missing people, I wonder whatever happened to Red Ocktober?
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Quote: "I wonder whatever happened to Red Ocktober"

The last I heard, TGC refunded his money for what he'd bought and bid him farewell. He seemed pretty upset about the way things were going here.

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Red Ocktober

That guy. He said he was going to come find me to fight me in Okinawa. I gave him my address and email (it's already public, of course) and told him to let me know when he was there. Later he said that he came to the army base but I wasn't there. Was I supposed to be waiting on the side of the road?

Any time we post in the same thread bad things happen. Some kind of chemical reaction that melts a tiny piece of TGC.

He really might have kicked the bucket, he hasn't posted anything on the Internet in a long time. Google 'red ocktober mike hense', the last thing from him is a couple years old and he was very active on some other boards.

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Yeah, I remember them - I think TMC went up in smoke, kinda like Indi did - but the rest probably just moved on. Mullvalen used to make mole games, Teemu was making a zombie shooter, TK was making UT type shooters, and TMC spent a lot of time with car physics and collision. If I recall of course, it has been quite a while since they were active.

I couldn't imagine that, just disapearing, and not at least lurking in the background now and then. This is the Cheers forum - I'm on a couple of other forums but mostly just lurking, this place is different though, and not just because I'm a mod. I think it's difficult to convey how the forum used to be, because people have it pretty good here. Back when there was no image hosting never mind 50mb attachments, less moderation, and a lot more trolling, well the forum kinda had to stick together....

Back in the long, long ago - before Apollo, there was RGT which was run by a handfull of elfish mods, at least one of them gender-non-specific, and a wizard called GuyS. Raven ruled the grey world of the classic forum and was taking over RGT with his noob-bait propoganda until he was banished forever. Then the gates of Apollo opened, but Raven had already infected the populous with tales of Lara Croft polycounts and ripped gamespy screenshots. Then GuyS had some never-specified mishap, and RGT crumbled. When the mass exodus from RGT arrived, Raven was worried, he knew that we knew too much, and the noobs were already questioning Raven could never show them the promised lands. We kept Raven as a pet, a special ninja, pirate, jedi pet.

OK, if anyone is daft enough to read that last paragraph, well it's been a long day .


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I think Big Red is active on Leadwerks forum, poor guys.

He won't be back here, he got a refund and kindly asked to vacate the forum. I won't dig up that old manky skeleton, but suffice to say he deserved it.


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I have to post something now, otherwise Van B will think I'm ignoring a thread which isn't going my way lol.

but, seriously where can I by fart gas, or do I just need to buy a fart car and stick a pipe up my backside.

oh...I'd better stop!

A fun thread nonetheless.
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Raven did make long, and maybe on some occasions, intelligent posts, but he did not know how to make a good argument without "heating up" the discussion.

Red Ocktober was just rude.

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I think I've seen Red Ocktober on the Leadwerks forums recently, although I have absoultely no idea who he is besides the name.
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Posted: 1st Dec 2009 21:19 Edited at: 1st Dec 2009 22:47
Where's Raven? Dunno.. Maybe he finally imploded into his own black hole...

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Raven was interesting, but some of my favorite posts were from Jimmy--that stuff cracked me up. Remember his big epic WIP thread with the 50,000-poly cube?

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Raven was....yeeeah. I usually skipped his posts.

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TDK was gone for awhile but he's back now.

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Red Oktober. Hahahhaha. Good old Mike Hense. I used to beat him in arguments when I was 14 at the 3dRad forum. The guy picks a fight with anyone then will make amends and be friends a few months later. So weird.

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Oh yeah, Jimmy is a rather interesting fellow. Didn't he also write a WIP with the most epic storyline ever? or was that somebody else? My memories are fading at this late hour.
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edit,
Someone managed to summarize Ravens posts in one word, I remember (*toggle*). Though the name of said person has slipped my mind. :/

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lol @ Lukas! I forgot that quote! That was awesome. Not trying to be picky, but I think the grammar is everything. Your English is far too well structured!

I believe it was more like ...

Quote: "your wife is death? how?
NO idea!! But it is murder!
REVENGE!!!!"


Classic.

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Posted: 2nd Dec 2009 15:29
Sounds like an interesting guy...

Does anyone think he'll come back?

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By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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Quote: "Raven was interesting, but some of my favorite posts were from Jimmy--that stuff cracked me up. Remember his big epic WIP thread with the 50,000-poly cube?"


Jimmy was the funniest member of this forum, in every way. He spawned many imitators who are still around the corners of the forum, but their humour doesn't hold a candle to Jimmy's. He is the only guy whose posts made me laugh out loud, and he was actually fairly decent and considerate.

I just loved his Martian Idol game for the Alienware contest


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Quote: "Jimmy was the funniest member of this forum"
Oh, I don't know, I always thought SmartAss or whatever his name was was really funny

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Funniest user?
Timesoft...

Most intentionally funny user?
Jimmy.

lol

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Remember Indi? Lol.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2009 21:16 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2009 21:19
I believe he's lurking around the Unity3D forums.

[Edit]

Maybe Timesoft could take some tips from Tim Clare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObIT2ImnSoo

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Sepp that's hilarious. I'll definitely bear that in mind. I know I've experienced the problem from the last section many a time.

On the other hand, easy come, easy go I suppose. How many games does our bold dashing hero briefly meet a princess, only to fall deeply in love within a matter of minutes. Impressive going. If I could rely on that happening on a regular basis, I might be a little more cavalier with my garage-leaving punctuality also...

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Yes, Tim Clare, Ross Sutherland and Aisle 16 are awesome, they've performed twice in the last 2 years at my university. Last year, they did their video game set, it was brilliant - the philosophy of life...according to video games. It'd be awesome if I could get an interview with Tim Clare for my dissertation. I'll probably try to get in contact with him after Christmas.

Quote: "On the other hand, easy come, easy go I suppose. How many games does our bold dashing hero briefly meet a princess, only to fall deeply in love within a matter of minutes."


Funny you should say that...Tim Clare wrote a song for that. Poor old girl from Donkey Kong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17tJN3ZEAfQ

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ah yes Raven... I found him very entertaining

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