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Quik
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making a car now, dunno what it is called.. hmm, anyhows i tried to follow the blueprint i have and well.... see for u self^^ its still WIP. still, iam pretty happy, since this is in fact my first car (no.. i have made one before... it was suxxors.). wish me luck^^ going to add some more details, or atleast try to. also, iam going to try to make detailed lights and make seams for doors and other suchh things. low poly is just 880 faces i believe.
C&C is fine as always^^ hoping to learn a lot from this^^ also, do NOT expect a CG awesome car from me. and i am aware of the windows at the sides. going to remake them

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lowpoly first: (sorry for the bad quality of the wire.)




highpoly:





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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 14:08
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Second car model, wow, it looks very nice Your second car model is much better than my second car model. When I finished modeling my second car, It looks like an UFO rather a car

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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 14:31
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Thanks B++^^

ive made a tire now, its way more detailed than the car but the car isnt done yet ^^ working on the rim right now. i learned pretty much from the tire acually. though, the tire is like 16k polys but i will possibly make an lowpoly verson aswell.. possibly^^ the tire itself is more highpoly than the car! omfg... screens:

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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 16:03
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I see its some kind of the new BMW X6? I attached a screen of what to fix.Cut those parts and the flow will be much better.Also dont use turbosmooth,it overdoes the smoothing.Select some polies then scroll down and find Smoothing Groups,then experiment with them

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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 16:23
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thanks, i really dunno what the car is named.. XD

i will cut those up^^


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i have made the cuts and iam soon done with the rims. theyre around 300 polys (lowpoly ones) and total scene with all 4 tires + all 4 rims (subbed) + car (subbed) is around 22k polys. here comes the pics:


without sub:

lowpoly wire:


iam going to add some bults and such into the rim then i'll call it done.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 17:11
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reduce the tires polys, thats just too much xD

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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 17:20 Edited at: 17th Dec 2009 17:21
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like i said: i will possibly make a low poly verson of them. and... well i probably will^^
but yes it is too high for a low poly car=P


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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 19:51
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Tires are slightly overkill, Its very nice though.

The doors have a strange poly placemnt along with the windshield/ support frame things. You can see the flux in the turbo smooth version.

It might just be poly placment and you would just need to re arrange them, but other than that its a nice mesh.

keep it up

Will be watching for updates.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 20:32
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yes, the tires MIIIIGHT be a little bit overkill...

anyhows: havent worked anything since last update - i have been playing Face of Mankind... XD dont worry, will get to it tomorrow


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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 09:13
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low poly front window look OK, but i wanna know ur opinion on the subbed window? also, anything to change to make it look better? going to start on the doors atm then of to the side windows.
also: the lowpoly verson clocks at 1k without the lowpoly rims and the.... tires.. XD also i might wanna do some poly reducing on the lowpoly rims.
one last question: do you think that the community might want the final product? as it looks now that is.









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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 11:15
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Car in work in progress progress, eh?

Looks nice so far though. You're certainly improving Quik.

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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 11:36 Edited at: 18th Dec 2009 11:38
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thank you toasty=P oh yeah i know about the thread name working on the doors atm will post update after school

the doors is a bit messy, but its the best i can do i believe. going to make the handles soon or whatever its called, the thingys u open the door with XDXD


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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 11:50
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is it only me or the car looks weird =0

anyway, nice model

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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 14:07
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The car looks pretty nice but the turbosmooth kinda kills it,it oversmooths the thing.Try doing as I said,by hand.Select some faces,scroll down and find Smoothing Groups then experiment.

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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 14:28
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Quote: "The car looks pretty nice but the turbosmooth kinda kills it,it oversmooths the thing.Try doing as I said,by hand.Select some faces,scroll down and find Smoothing Groups then experiment."


Or use turbosmooth, but learn how to utilise control edges.

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asteric: iam trying to do that ^^ but yeah, the turbosmooth kinnda oversmoothes things.

Quote: "is it only me or the car looks weird =0"


ur NOT alone XDXD


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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 16:55
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Try using the symmetry function/modifer instead of welding, its much more efficent.

Though i cant remember what you use lol


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erm.. i use symmetri.. lol ^^


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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 18:29
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by the way: to h*** with the subbed, only focusing on the lowpoly. what do u guys say about that? next try will soly be on subdivision/highpoly though
what do u say?


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whoops lol


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Posted: 18th Dec 2009 18:42
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now i dont understand why u would say whoops? XD


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wel that was arkward, i posted whoops about you using symmerty, i should refresh before i post.

And yes focus on the low poly first, then when you sub smooth it will look alot better


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also, you guys think that ~2k polys is accepted for a car? //talking car games here\\

car itself is 1k, tire is 16kXD will redo. and rim is 300polys.

tried to apply smoothing groups and... it looks proffessional if i have to say it myselfXD (applied all car to one smoothing group, the body looked nice. windows and such will probably be in an alone group. thanks for that tip whoever it was


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look a this: http://www.3dtotal.com//team/Tutorials/nissan_350z/nissan_01.php

i cry everyime i see this car D:

can you make something like it? xD

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i doubt i canXD though that was my aim with this one anyhow, hopefully next car will be betterXD

btw, as for the new tires, any recommendation? how shall i make them? just a cylinder? u have any lowpoly car tutorials? u get it.


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hassan, i hate you, why do people dangle pretty thing in front of me.

The temptation alone is killing me. *puts blinders on* cant stop work two projects is enough for now ^_^


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update on what ive done today.

the new tire, needs more detail?

mirror

and a general overview, i have added lamps and a thingy at the front^^


also this is it with unfinished smoothing groups. looks good? no?



wont bother with wires now, if u need wires to be able to give crits, say so^^


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looks like you need to sort out your symmerty mate, you have a very harsh line down the center of the model.
starting to look very good though

cheers henry

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know about the line - it appears since its symmetrical, and the lines go into each other, should be fixed when copied - select all middle vertex - weld.

thanks for the crit and comment^^


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the tier needs ABIT more detail, doesn't even look "round"

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Looks good but those dark nasty artifacts you have are annoying me.Try selecting all vertices and weld with 0.001 threshold.Maybe it will fix that.

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hassan: the tire? well, to make it perfectly round i have to make it atleast 60segs and that would make it very highpoly pretty sure up to day car games dont use more than 18 and uses bump/normal maps.


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Give the tyre 16 sides, as oppose to 12.

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sure, thanks Aaagreen^^


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hello, quet a big update now, doors, door handles, tires, a new window.. wow.

clocks in at about 3k polys i think, some vertex fixes and poly reducion and its done i think. i have learned a lot frlom this, and i have gotten a bigger understanding for car geometry, also how to go around when making cars. thanks for all the support i've gotten. going to play with smoothing groups today and then i think i will call it done.






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It would help if we could see the car in those shots

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Looks awesome.After you smooth it,try to make some materials and make a nice render.

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asteric: i have no prob seeing it, but yes, a bit brighter.. but u cant see it at all or?


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Use a grey enviroment background,
You do use max right? my memory fails me again.

Press 8 to bring up the enviroment menu if you do. I think i can spare some of my scene render setings if you are,

Ill prepare a few for you if you want. Give mew a heads up, i should be lurking between episodes.

Edit; i forgot to say, great job on this, youv improved alot.

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the shots are a bit dark mate.press 8 on your keyboard it will bring up the enviroment tab you can change the background colour there.
lol sorry just seen lazerus post
cheers henry

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pretty good indeed, now start working on the lights =D

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thanks for all the nice comments^^ and i would love you if u did laz xD

hassan, the lights exist, since it is a low poly car the lights will be done with a texture.

iam not sure if i will texture it, it would on the other hand be gr8 excersize...


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edit* nevermind, didn't see the 2nd page.


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