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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] ******SUBSCRIBE****** Monthly zombie survival games for $10.00 a year subscriptions

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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 05:12
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Hey guys, I wanted to let you know that I am making monthly zombie survival games.
Each month a new feature will be added, and each month a CUSTOM MADE\ANIMATED GUN, unique to either me or me and one other person will be used for the games!

Features


***each month the subscribers will get a new lag-free ZS game!
***each month will be a new gun
***each month will be a new zombie
***each month will be a new feature, such as a new HUD, bloom, etc.

You can subscribe for ONLY $10.00 a year! thats less than a dollar for an infinite zombie game each month!


To Subscribe please go Here
Here are two pics from January 2010's ZS game, The Village.




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Bugsy
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this is actually a very good idea! a subscription style price. tell me what the game play is: do they just spawn unlimitedly, or is there a story?



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2 General Jackson

Yay, cool! Sounds like real fun. But don't you think that later you games would become... mmm, similar?

Lol, just noticed- you are using paint to make snapshots?

Its my own surname? really!
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would be good if some of the maps where like natzi zombies on CoD WaW. maybe in later versions...

Get one better at better electrical, well we just did, DARKANGEL
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The Master Dinasty
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Good idea, but are you shure that you can make games in such pase without dameging the epicness of a game?
I think you would be better of putting real hard work into a game, and selling that for 50 dollars a piece. Does anyone know about any FPSC game thats ever gone to steam? Thats where i would sell my game You seroisly need huds. (instead of the boring stock one)

Advertisment is important, make a trailer on youtube post it as a video response to other big games. (Most likly L4D and WaW)
Try contacting some local internett web sites, that can review your game.

Maybe you should get kraven into this he has some amazing skills when it comes about zombies...

The L4D2 arm is awesome! How ever i dont like the texture on your gun try making it a little brighter.


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@GJ: Remembering "The Fall of the Third Reich" you are not really known for finishing the *games* you announce.

So you'd be one of the very last people on this forum I'd pay IN ADVANCE.

Seriously - you must be joking

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 16:03 Edited at: 30th Dec 2009 16:08
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Quote: "do they just spawn unlimitedly"

Yep, they sure do
Quote: "Yay, cool! Sounds like real fun. But don't you think that later you games would become... mmm, similar?
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Well, yeah, but each one is set in a diferrent environment.
Such as I am almost done with Februaries game it is in a winter, er, wonderland

Quote: "would be good if some of the maps where like natzi zombies on CoD WaW. maybe in later versions...

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Sure, I can do that!

Quote: "I think you would be better of putting real hard work into a game, and selling that for 50 dollars a piece."

Nah, I'm not good at finishing big projects by myself. These are simple and fun to do, I can get the months game done in an hour


Quote: "Advertisment is important, make a trailer on youtube post it as a video response to other big games. (Most likly L4D and WaW)
Try contacting some local internett web sites, that can review your game.
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Thats a VERY good idea, will do

Quote: "The L4D2 arm is awesome! How ever i dont like the texture on your gun try making it a little brighter.
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Yay! but the gun is dark because it is in a dark place

Quote: "@GJ: Remembering "The Fall of the Third Reich" you are not really known for finishing the *games* you announce.

So you'd be one of the very last people on this forum I'd pay IN ADVANCE.

Seriously - you must be joking "

That was a ton different, that was a big major project, these are just simple, fun games
I already have all of Januaries and most of februaries games done
So no need to be worried or be enemies, right?


{edit} and storyteller, I completed a gigantic level for Mind Trix, and won 2nd place, so I can complete games

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@The Storyteller 01, Why do you have such a hate for General Jackson? You always bring up that game... There are A LOT of people here who never finish games, why are you so mad that he didn't finish his?

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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 20:24
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Thankyou Darimc.
I dont understand it either

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General Jackson
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Guys, I cant use this gun for the project, because I found out that egg head of doom did NOT make it, and the site says that it can be used for non-commercial only.
So I'll just have to use errants guns for december game

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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 22:23 Edited at: 30th Dec 2009 22:24
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Meh... after 7 months, you could've just bought L4D2... The new gun/new zombies sounds good, but you're already using Bond1's zombies (not to mention the same ones), so wouldn't yourslook a little... uh... odd?

The concept is nice though, and it's a good way of making money but I'm not totally into this. Just some constructive critisicm.

Edit: lol, we posted at the same time

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Im not to keen on the whole idea of this. I don't think that it will work. But I wish you the best of luck with it and hope that you are rewarded

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Hi General Jackson

What if you decide not to complete this for the full year will people get their money back?

I do understand were The Storyteller 01 is coming from. As the presentation for this offer is not very professional even if it is only for a $10 year subscription. Your asking for people’s money which is the reason it is important. It does not install confidence in that you would finish this at all.

This is all a matter of opinion, but I hope this works out for you.

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Maby if you give a week or two for free and let people see what it's like. I myself think that this is a very good idea. I might even someday try out myself. But I hope you the best luck in this! It seems cool.

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Quote: "$10.00 a year!"

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh a yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Still, not ma thang. What happens in 50 years? Do you have to pay $500

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 04:28 Edited at: 31st Dec 2009 04:32
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Quote: "What if you decide not to complete this for the full year will people get their money back?"

Yes
But... these are extremely fun to do, so I dont see any chance of me stopping

Quote: "I do understand were The Storyteller 01 is coming from. As the presentation for this offer is not very professional even if it is only for a $10 year subscription. Your asking for people’s money which is the reason it is important. It does not install confidence in that you would finish this at all.

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Well, I'm not a professional game creator. If I was I wouldnt be using FPSC
Storyteller has been attacking me for awhile because I didnt finish a HUGE game project I had planned, that is the only reason.

MD:Glad you like the idea, and sure, I will make a free ZS game

{edit} DH: You can subscribe as long as you want
However I doubt I'll be doing this in fifty years

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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 04:33 Edited at: 31st Dec 2009 04:34
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Quote: "Well, I'm not a professional game creator. If I was I wouldnt be using FPSC"


You are familiar with the phrase "people that live in glass houses should not throw stones"? Not exactly a nice comment to make about FPSC, especially on their forum board.

You can't go around expecting support on a project, then make shots at your support's support.

Cheers

Mike

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http://www.moltenbytedesign.net/news/?p=9

I think you should take a look at that, GJ, before you say that you don't need to be professional. If you're professional, people take you seriously...

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 16:07
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Can we please talk about the games and not how professional my post is?
Thanks

Guys I am building the level right now for ya'll to test

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General Jackson
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Quote: "you can probelay take 100 dollars per subscriber. "

Wrong. It already has a lot of zombies, and it would start to lag after a few graphical effects

Uploading the demo now

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 17:21
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Demo

Game

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Woow. Nice work.


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seriouslly, why dont u try something different? why always zombies?
Arent u people borded of the zombie games?

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My suggestion to general jackson.

You should make all 12 levels before you start this then send 1 each month (you might be doing that already) but it's a fool proof system.

Anyways I'm going to try the demo one today and if it's good I might consider subscribing.

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General Jackson
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Quote: "You should make all 12 levels before you start this then send 1 each month (you might be doing that already) but it's a fool proof system.

Anyways I'm going to try the demo one today and if it's good I might consider subscribing."

Yup, already have 6 done

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that demo was good, but not enough zombies. maybe more spawns, there shouldn't be anywhere you wont get the zombies attention, that way you can't snipe them. I just used my gun like a lwanmower the whole time, I only died once ecept for whn I fell through the ground, and I played for an hour or so. and I was wondering what mod you where using also.


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General Jackson
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Ok, for me they are always coming after me
And it uses Fenix Mod.
I will make it where they always see you and re-upload it

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k, I was sitting in one spot and shooting at them, reloading and getting more of them after me. it was too easy.


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Quote: "Arent u people borded of the zombie games? "


Nevar!!! Aren't you bored of First Person Shooters?

@General Jackson, whatever launch program you're using I can't get it to work. When I try to launch the game it either says that it can't find the zip folder, or brings up an error message and closes.

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About an hour for each game? I remember you criticizing someone once for a game you claimed to be made in a short time period and how they shouldn't sell it. How is this different? How will subsribers be ensured that each map is of good quality and had lots of effort put in so that they can enjoy it if it was only built in about an hour?

Understand that I am not attacking you but simply pointing out something you might want to change to get more sales.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 22:58 Edited at: 31st Dec 2009 22:59
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Dark Peanut: Well, I consider myself to be a good map designer, I mean I DID get second place in mind trix
Also, I realized I built the wrong level for you guys:S
That was the older version of this map, I should have tested it.
Oh well.
I'll upload the real map a bit later

{edit} Kraven, I used Vishnu, did you extract the folder?

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Quote: "Well, I consider myself to be a good map designer, I mean I DID get second place in mind trix"


I consider the people who made Call of Duty good map designers and certainly not even individual levels of their games were made in an hour. The same applies to Kravenwolf, Wolf, and many others.

And not to insult or anything but there were 4-5? people who joined the competition and the only legit "experienced" FPSC user in it was SamHH. Experienced as in hes been part of the forums since 2006 meaning he has used FPSC for 3-4 years or longer.

Don't want to start an argument or anything but I just find your idea flawed in more ways than one. However I wish you luck with it.

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Quote: "And not to insult or anything but there were 4-5? people who joined the competition and the only legit "experienced" FPSC user in it was SamHH."


Although a lot of people originally signed up for the competition, only 5 valid entries were produced. I have great respect for those people who commited to a project and followed through with it - and one of those people was General Jackson. The number of people entering the competition has nothing to do with the quality of the entries submitted - take a look at both the Wooded Grotto and The Mansion - two excellent entries. General Jackson, good luck with this endeavour, I'll be keeping close track of it


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I consider the people who made Call of Duty good map designers and certainly not even individual levels of their games were made in an hour."

And they have a lot of people on their team and a lot of resources and on and on- no way your gonna get anywhere near that in FPSC

Quote: "And not to insult or anything but there were 4-5? people who joined the competition and the only legit "experienced" FPSC user in it was SamHH. Experienced as in hes been part of the forums since 2006 meaning he has used FPSC for 3-4 years or longer.
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So much for that, samHH was not even a runner up (no offense at ALL towards Samhh, he has many many talents)

Quote: "Don't want to start an argument or anything but I just find your idea flawed in more ways than one. However I wish you luck with it.

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Yep, I dont feel like seeing you start one either
$10.00 for 12 games I think is a PERFECTLY reasonable price.
BTW here is a preview of Februaries game

{edit} Posted at the same time as Marc Steene

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Thats not what I was meaning marc and I think your contest was a great idea and a great success. I also think Coach Shogun has amazing skill and love all of his work.
Quote: "And they have a lot of people on their team and a lot of resources and on and on- no way your gonna get anywhere near that in FPSC"

Thats exactly why I also mentioned FPSC users.
Ok now I'm really done here, to each his own.

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Quote: "I also think Coach Shogun has amazing skill and love all of his work."


Thank you, thank you, you're too kind

jk, but seriously General Jackson you need to present yourself and your project with more professionalism and maturity. The minute you act like a mature professional is the minute people start treating you like one.

As far as the time for each game goes, I have to agree with DP here. An hour isn't much time to put alot of thought into a map, no matter what program your using. The best maps for Far Cry 2 are creating in 17 or more. Any that aren't usually aren't fun or balanced for the gameplay. For CoD, the program they use is extremely different from FPSC's, and is more expandable. But GJ is right when he says they have a team. Even still, I'm sure if they were working on a game with FPSC they would take way more than an hour. As for FPSC, how long did your entry take you for Mind Trix? I'm sure it was much more than an hour. Mine took at least 3 and a half all combined, probably more. I'm sure that all the other entries were made in more than an hour. Put work into these to make the best experience and people will subscribe and enjoy them, don't put work into your levels and games and you'll lose a majority of your subscribers.

I, for one, won't subscribe until I'm sure about the quality and you get some reviews about your first month's game. Good luck with this.

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I love the Far Cry 2 map editor too, I like to make racing games It's always fun driving down a steep slope at high speed while dodging propane tanks


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General Jackson
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Quote: "I, for one, won't subscribe until I'm sure about the quality and you get some reviews about your first month's game."

Well if everyone acts like you no-one will ever know, will they?
If a mod could clean out all posts like DP's from this thread, I would greatly appreciate it.
THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR SAYING HOW PROFESSIONAL OR MATURE I AM.
It is for showing screenshots of next months ZS, for subscribers to talk about what they like and dont like, and stuff like that.
I AM putting alot of work into these, custom guns and custom characters\character reskins for each game.


Thankyou.

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I don't think that anyone is criticizing your idea. I believe they are trying to help you make this succeed by helping with the approach you use. One moment you are saying you have this great idea or project, then the next post is picking apart FPSC, or the next one is making other comments towards others, like this:

Quote: "Well, I'm not a professional game creator. If I was I wouldnt be using FPSC"


Or

Quote: "So much for that, samHH was not even a runner up (no offense at ALL towards Samhh, he has many many talents)"


Or

Quote: "Well if everyone acts like you no-one will ever know, will they?"


I believe you have a great idea here. I have great ideas too, but the one thing I've learned is to "listen" to what others have to say or suggest, and you have to learn to "filter" out what you don't need and use what is good solid advice. Also helps to not take everything too personal. You keep at it. You have a solid idea, but I really feel that some are trying to offer some sound advice to make it succeed. Your reactions demonstrate both how serious and professional you are. Professionalism enters in the moment you decide to charge, because those that pay are customers, and we have to be professional towards them or risk losing them.

Hopefully you understand what I am trying to say. If not, then by all means ask a mod to "remove" my post.

Cheers

Mike

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@General: Sorry if you took my post as a personal attack. I was simply suggesting some things that might attract more subscribers to your idea. It sounds great, but the reason I'm cautious to subscribe is the same with many games now. I don't buy until I get a review. I'm sure your series will be fun, and I might subscribe myself. Once again, Good Luck.

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Quote: "Wrong. It already has a lot of zombies, and it would start to lag after a few graphical effects

Uploading the demo now"


What mod are you using, rpg should make your frame rate more suitable.I really do belive you could make more money but its your descion.will try the demo whenever i get time the clock is 03:24 right now in the morning:p


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General you take EVERYTHING as a personal attack tbh, you get worked up about everything and then say you should talk about game instead when you've argued with everyone, don't react! Take in their comments and criticism then take it on board, but any personal attacks, just ignore, it's not worth it to argue.

Being professional and mature is 90% of presenting your game, it speaks volumes about the creator and the quality of the game. Imagine if Valve came on saying "Hey guys, this is Half-Life, it has zombies and awesome A.I. and each level took a lots of time to make! But don't mind me just buy the game!" I don't think it would've got it's recognition and been declared one of the best games ever made.

The way you've presented your game doesn't speak well for it, each level made in an hour and you've already done half of them, you need a better marketing strategy. Make it a website completely on it's own, have videos, pictures and descriptions of the game, don't tell people the time that was taken to make it or anything about the creation of the game really, the new weapons every week is a good idea, be sure to include that. Then for a month or so release it for free, then people can decide whether they wish to continue buying or not, also be sure to make each one unique, not just the same game with different scenery every month. Maybe some Nazi zombie style, some escape style, stuff like that, but mix it up more for a more varied and enjoyable experience.

Also make sure to POLISH your game, it's where many FPS Creator games fall down. Take some time to make individual loading screens and menus for each game, again it's all about presentation.

And finally if you can offer the option for users to cancel their subscription at any time, so they don't feel trapped by your deal.

P.S I'm not trying to attack you or say your a rubbish game creator, you have potential and resolve, just take some time for presentation.

Good Luck

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General Jackson
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Ok, mods you can lock this thread.
I am a complete know-nothing idiot noob who cant do a damn thing for himself.
Us complete idiots who dont know anything shouldnt even be allowed to have threads like this.
All these other forum members who are perfect should be allowed
to ruin us total noob'ses threads.


Complete idiot who knows nothing and is an immature idiot, out!

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*sigh* I was trying to help you man...

I didn't once insult you in my post.

I give up, your a lost cause, you just don't listen to people.
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General Jackson
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I DONT WANT YOU PEOPLE LISTING ALL THESE REASON WHY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT SUBSCRIBE.
IF YOU DO NO-ONE IS EVER GOING TO SUBSCRIBE.
The same thing happened on my Karabiner 98k thread, and I got but 1 sale.
Its sickening.


But hey I'm just a damn noob who knows nothing, and shouldnt be allowed to have these kind of threads because I am a know-nothing











{edit} and I am not listening because:
1. THIS IS NOT A c&c thread
2. I did not want c&c from non-subscribers
3. You guys always ruin threads like this.
4. Thanks SO much

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So really all you want it a perfect thread were all people do it compliment your game and subscribe, if you don't want people to express their opinions, why the hell are you on a forum?
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Quote: "I did not want c&c from non-subscribers"

QUOTE!

You havent even played one of the games, so c&c is IMPOSSIBLE.
Check my profile, I have multiple threads where I have asked for c&c, AND TAKEN IT AND LEARNED FROM IT.
I dont want every thread turning out like this.
THIS IS NOT a WIP thread, or a c&c-from-people-who-havent-even-tried-it thread.

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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 18:58
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Fine, whatever I'm not gonna start a flame war here.
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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 19:57
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