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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 20:27
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Hey guys, I have been working on this Nazi Zombie for my ZS games, and I want some C&c for him before I map and texture him


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mike5424
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what's up with his hands? and the shoes look a little like socks. other than that i like it!

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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 21:30
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Thanks the hands are going to have fingers painted on them,that way there is not unneccesarry polies
And I fixed the shoes to look like boots, I will post up an updated pic after my sister and I do the dishes

(the dishes, worst job ever!

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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 21:38
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the hands look like paper, make them thicker=)


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one the up side for your 1st ever character its a relatively nice start

c&c wise....
your guna want to work on your propositional skills, his chest looks a little like breasts and the turbosmooth made for flipped polys on the end of the shirt and pants. He seems to have no fingers and stumps for feet....

it takes time to learn but its worth it

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ploxiegens
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he got boobs "giggels"

bad zombie!
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Red Eye
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Keep this up!

www.redeyegallery.tk <-- Look at last image or so...


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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 22:29
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Quote: "his chest looks a little like breasts"

Exactly what I was going to say.

The shoes should look more "shoe-like",

Quote: "Thanks the hands are going to have fingers painted on them,"

No! Zombies claw, grab and bite their prey! Unless you want your zombies to slap it's victim to death, give him some nice hands.

Btw, I've seen a nice retexture on a website somewhere...

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/pg.htm
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General Jackson
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Posted: 30th Dec 2009 23:41
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Update!

Chest fixed


H=Gave him real fingers, and a split down the coat

Now on to uv-mapping


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fingers arnt bad, but that skirt thing is messed up now, i would suggest redoing it, also the split down the coat doesn't look to great.
the boots are looking nice but what you need to do now is shap them a little, look at reel boots or your feet for that matter, they dont slop down like your do. Lastly the chest and torso need to be widder, they are to flat.

Only trying to help you improve

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General Jackson
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Whats messed up with the skirt? which is actually a coat
The split down the coat-should I redo it or rmove it? Because I think it adds a nice touch

I will make the boots look better

Thanks for the c+c, glad I didnt start uv-mapping yet.

Oh yeah, chest and torso, which way should I widen them? z or x?

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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 01:07
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his torso looks funny, like it's to skinny on the z-axis.

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Quote: "Whats messed up with the skirt? which is actually a coat"


you see how it looks darker then the rest of the mesh, thats because somewhere on there there are polygons that are flipped over, when you texture this is wont look good.

If your using 3Ds max, you can check out some of my tutorials on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/user/2Dplus1productions

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 16:38
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Ok, in Wings 3d sometimes that happens when you extrude, its nothing important

Quote: "If your using 3Ds max"

I wish
I use Wings 3d.
I'm like the Wings 3d master now
After hours of work here is the UV-map. Now to texture it


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Quote: "in Wings 3d sometimes that happens when you extrude, its nothing important
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Dont mean to be rude but it really is important, no matter what program your using. There are polys flipped over there.

anyways good luck with the texture

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General Jackson
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Ok, but the polys look normal to me, they are simply stretched, I will give you a clay-wireframe if you want to see, maybe you can show me

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sounds good

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General Jackson
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Posted: 31st Dec 2009 17:53
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okay heres from the front and back.




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What does he has in his back? Flat boobs?


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General Jackson
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It was part of fixing the back, it used to be too thin so I made lines and stuff.
Dont worry, its flat.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 05:25
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Update!!
I have done a cartoony texture, I am about to rig him
After I rig him I will make the zombie texture and animate him as a zombie


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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 05:42
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i dont see any pics

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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 13:27
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He really does not look like a zombie.

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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 13:50 Edited at: 1st Jan 2010 13:50
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yeah, a man with boobs and a skirt

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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 17:42 Edited at: 1st Jan 2010 20:46
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[I deleted this]

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General Jackson
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Quote: "I have done a cartoony texture, I am about to rig him
After I rig him I will make the zombie texture and animate him as a zombie"

Maybe thats why he doesnt look like a zombie?
A mod can lock this as it is clearly going to turn innapropriate.

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Posted: 1st Jan 2010 18:39
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Quote: "A mod can lock this as it is clearly going to turn innapropriate."

or maybe people stop making fun of it and give good C&C like normal people?

it doesnt look like it has boobs, not the textured verson.

also, if u wish it to look more zombie like i suggest u add more tear and wear and more blood to the texture.

though, it looks like a nice soldier =P


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General Jackson
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Quote: "or maybe people stop making fun of it and give good C&C like normal people?"

Yep that would be a good idea as well

Quote: "also, if u wish it to look more zombie like i suggest u add more tear and wear and more blood to the texture.
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Yes, I will make the zombie texture after I rig it, that way people can have a zombie and a non-zombie

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The hands look really nice, the shoes look alot better, but the head looks a little too big for the body.

So how's the texture going to look? Gray skin or green skin?

http://www.uncaged.co.uk/pg.htm
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I would first of all learn how to model neat [u know what quads / tris/ hexagons are?. The uvmap is good but not good enough as u have bits and bytes that could be attached to other big things, so u have more space.

Well i wont say anything about the character as i know that this is ur first character model.

About texturing, i gues that is ur first too. Although some parts are well made, others are just noisy and not really a texture. Maybe look up some paint.net tutorials (if that is what u are using) or gimp texture tutorials (gimp is pretty good too), although photoshop is the best for texturing (well everyone has his own skillzz and uses what he wants, although wings 3d is not really the program to start with).

Back the model... U have to take comments from others when they say that polys are flipped, or that smoothing groups are bad made. That last thing is probably the reason they are black. So i would take that into consideration.

EDIT: U need to know when using loads of polygons, the hands are okay, but the arms that is really polygonish...


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General Jackson
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2010 17:20
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Thanks, the texture is not nearly done, it is mostly a cartoony placeholder.

BTW I have PS CS3 for texturing.

Quote: " U need to know when using loads of polygons, the hands are okay, but the arms that is really polygonish...

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The arms are low-poly, could you explain what you mean?

Quote: "u know what quads / tris/ hexagons are?"

Yes, but I dont understand, what are they for?

Quote: " U have to take comments from others when they say that polys are flipped, or that smoothing groups are bad made. That last thing is probably the reason they are black. So i would take that into consideration.
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What are smoothing groups? In wings3d you can smooth things but I dont see anything about smoothing groups

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This tutorial is everything youll need to know to start off with organics.

http://www.poopinmymouth.com/process/character_tutorial/character_process.htm

-Con


http://lazerus-reborn.deviantart.com/
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Confederate Soldier
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I would never click on a URL for a website called that.


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Quote: "(I made a new account)"

why ?

and also if you incorporated this picture in your Nazi (IE: make the head like this)
it would be SICK!!!
its just something i drew up last night.
here is a preview , and the larger image is in attachment.


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Confederate Soldier
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Quote: "why ?"

Cause I am awesome

Yes i might make a version like that, but I need to finish rigging this guy.

(I am SO lazy about rigging characters sometimes)


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Theres nothing wrong with the website...its not even a website really..well it is but all it has is a tutorial and thats it. Different people have different senses of humor. Its a great tutorial btw thanks for pointing it out lazerus!

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Quote: "Theres nothing wrong with the website...its not even a website really..well it is but all it has is a tutorial and thats it. Different people have different sense of humor. Its a great tutorial btw thanks for pointing it out lazerus!

dark peanut
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Oh, its a tutorial?
I had no idea what it was.

Checked it out and it looks great


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Quote: "Cause I am awesome"

im awesomer

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No problem,Mr peanut,

Though you are completly right my friend, i would post a shock picture website on area under dominion of SGT. B. ADD, Really do you think am that stupid, or as a matter of fact still be around?

Just so you know, Ben Mathis, the owner of that site has worked on;

Quote: "Ghost Recon 2: Remote, modeled one high poly weapon for the in game cinematics. PS2, Xbox
BloodRayne 2: In-house, modeled and textured numerous in game characters and environment props. PS2, Xbox, PC
Dark Age of Camelot: Catacombs Expansion: In-house, modeled and textured the majority of the new player hairs and hats. PC
Fate: Remote, modeled and textured a player pet, and one monster. PC
GUN: In-house, modeled, textured, and rigged four in game characters, one cinematic character. PS2, Xbox, GC, PC, PSP, Xbox 360
Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion: Remote, modeled and textured two in game statues. PC, Xbox 360
Rise of Legends: Remote, created one in game character that was used in promotional material and E3 demo. PC
Titan Quest : Remote, created NPC's for early prototypes of the game. PC
Tony Hawk Project 8: Numerous character assets, helped create skin shader used on all characters in-game PC, 360, PS3, PS2, Xbox
Hellgate London : Created several in game statues, plus accessories for an NPC. PC"


And placed in Dominance war, its good to have a sense of humour about anything in life, makes it more intresting.

I have referred that exact link in about 12 of these threads so far, and i still reference back to things when im working.
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Cause I am awesome"


no really why?

You could just ask a mod to change your name.

So my Southern and proud friend its your move.


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Oh, I had no clue what it was.
Thanks for the link! its a great tut!


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Quote: "Theres nothing wrong with the website...its not even a website really..well it is but all it has is a tutorial and thats it."


http://www.poopinmymouth.com/tutorial/tutorial.htm

Your telling me theres only one tutorial? It has loads, but it is actually a guy's portfolio

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Hm I stand corrected...
Thanks for showing me that..I had only seen the one in lazerus' link.

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General Jackson
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Nickydude banned my other account

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you shouldnt have shouted it out then XD

and you shouldnt have 2 accounts in the first place so????
no surprise/.

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Quote: "Nickydude banned my other account"

Then why'd you make a new one? Obviously you said something which made you deserve a ban...

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What is it ?

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General Jackson
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No what I mean is he banned my Confederate Soldier account because I had two.
And he obviously doesnt like people having two

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Really??? Because I could have sworn it was me who banned your other account.

Quote: "And he obviously doesnt like people having two"


What possible reason could you have for needing two?
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I agree with Thraxas. Nice model though, can't wait to see the zombie texture and it rigged. And he doesn't look like he has boobs in the textured version.

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