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Work in Progress / A rivil to VanMESH, DarkMESH, hehe

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Mattman
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Posted: 8th Sep 2003 22:28
yep, DarkMESH, look for screens soon

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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 01:32
ok?

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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 03:03
If it's as quality as you signature image I can't wait

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Mattman
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 03:28
lol. I actually thought this out (lol) and I think I can do this.

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Eric T
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 04:02
PRO or Classic?

Static or organic modeling, or both?

and do you have a Design Doc at all?

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Mattman
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 04:03
not sure yet, probably pro

static

umm, not really. But i have a basic code.

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Eric T
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 04:10
DESIGN BEFORE CODE ... rule of thumb

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Mattman
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 04:11
I thought about it, but did not have the brains to right it down

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Van B
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 11:28 Edited at: 9th Sep 2003 11:29
I'll bet you 3 boxes of Jaffa Cakes that you don't finish it.

Sorry to sound negative, but everytime I start a project that hasn't really been done in DB before - someone comes along and starts on their own version, post a lot of info about it, then within 2 weeks it's forgotton about. I hope you finish it - but don't slouch mate, VANmesh is gonna take some beating .


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Mattman
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 16:27
Good luck to you too

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Van B
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 16:37
Hehe, VANmesh and DarkMESH lock vertices in a fight to the death...

When you gonna post some screenies so I can psyche my baby up?


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Hamish McHaggis
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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 18:43
Lol! Mattman vs. Van B round 1. Ding ding!!

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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 20:26
Quote: "lol. I actually thought this out (lol) and I think I can do this."


If so, please explain how you're going to do it... memblocks? as I'm really interested in how.

No joke.


ps. VANMesh might win this time.

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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 23:04
if the left corner weighing in at 4000 polys...

hehe

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Posted: 9th Sep 2003 23:27
Which in fact, would be the best way to make a 3D modeler with DB/DBP?

(sorry to hijack your topic mattman, but this may also help you too.)

This will be interesting.



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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 00:20
Just have one of them include animators, ok, I could use one, or else I'm doomed with Project Decoy.


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Mattman
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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 00:28
Umm, well, no animations in mine.

I do expect VanMESH to be better, but this is mainly a learning experiance for me.

And as I can't model, I will need some beta testers. ANyone want to?

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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 00:51
*raises hand*

Send it over


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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 01:45
Not yet.

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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 11:20
It's probably a good thing that your not a modeller Matt, neither am I, it means you make the modeller you want and can use instead of another complicated unfriendly mess like most of the modelling software out there!. Both will most likely work completely differently, so it's a case of using the software that makes the most sense to you.

I went for manual vertice data instead of memblock editing, although it uses a memblock to display the model, the memblock is generated from the manual vertice data. I like doing it that way because it gives total control over the vertices. For example, splitting a polygon into 3, with manual vertices, you simply average out all 3 vertice positions to find the centre of the poly. Once you have the centre, you add a vertice at the centre location and assign the polygons to suit. That is fairly straightforward using manual vertices - don't want to think how you'd do that with memblock editing.

Post some more details about DarkMESH please Matt, if there's anything your unsure off, just let me know. Good luck, and stick with it - once you get stuck into it, it's actually pretty cool working stuff like this.


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Posted: 10th Sep 2003 18:01
actually i don't know a single modeling program that is designed by modelers themselves ... which kinda explains the mess that is 3D Packages.

amusingly artists know what they'd like but without a coder to sit there and program it they can just keep with the dreaming.
one thing i'll warn BOTH of you to watch out for are the increasing pipelines and multi-pass tasks.
They will kill system speed and resources quicker you can say "Windows Crash"

a very important tools which is left out fo alot of programs except the professional ones is the ability to hide/show wireframe edges and edit facts based on the visible edges.
its a bitch to program (i never got a working version, and mete's been trying for a good year and a half on it) but if you can pull it off you'd certainly make it a god of budgetware proggies

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What's the progress like Mattman?

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Posted: 14th Sep 2003 21:00
Show us some screenies


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Mattman
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Posted: 14th Sep 2003 22:10
I haven't gotten much done lately, with my racing game, school ,and other assorted distractions

No screens yet, and my bigesst issue will be GUI. I hate those.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2003 22:21
as long as the GUI looks better then your old sig... it'll be fine

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Mattman
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Posted: 15th Sep 2003 01:12
lol, I don't think it will

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Posted: 21st Sep 2003 18:38
make it for classic. I'm not allowed to get pro.

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Quote: "make it for classic. I'm not allowed to get pro. "


I think mattman will probably take advantage of all the new features of Pro (in terms of csg), so it's unlikely.

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Posted: 21st Sep 2003 20:12
Yes, I am making it in pro, sorry.

It is gonna be realised in an .exe form though, why would that matter?

Progress is slow because of school,football, and other stuff.

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