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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Can you put a FPS game on a PS3?

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chidem
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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 12:18
Woa, time for all to chillax - this is supposed to be a civilized discussion about making games

Quote: "Lets just calm down everyone before this turns into a flame war! "

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Daniel, I don't think that Kerrby's comment was meant to insult your disability or your spelling but your comments re: the ease with which FPSC games can be made to work on a PS3. Kerby, your comment was a bit rude - I'm not trying to pick a fight just saying that what you wrote was a little bit loaded. That said, I think Daniel read too much into it. In fairness Kerrby has also taken steps to rectify this by speaking with Daniel directly.

So why don't we get back to the relevant discussions?

Quote: "well as far as people pirating your stuff im sorry to here this, that realy sucks, but I say this. get a program that makes it imposible to use unless you use the serial number you issue. then only make the game have so many install times, also make it to if they request a reset on the installs then you will reset it, but this will indeed slow down thease pirets. this is what iclone does, it works well"


Dealing with piracy - now that is an interesting and relevant discussion; I know it's a little off topic but I do want to respond. I gave alot of thought to adding DRM to my game but decided against because, if people want to pirate the software, they will find a way around it - they always do. No DRM solution I know of has stopped a game being pirated and the end result tends to P*** off legitimate customers more than pirates. Limited installs, etc, only serve to limit those who actually support my games, not those who pirate them. It is a sad reality but I see no point in fostering ill will among my customers - and if nothing else it at least speads some kind of awareness to the wider public of the game! Maybe I should start a pirate amnesty campaign - asking those who pirated the software to support it?

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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 13:23
How can you run an FPSC game on a PS3 when Playstations don't support Direct X? :S

Quote: "And yes, it is possible. They did it with CoD, didn't they? "


Call of Duty wasn't made with FPS Creator.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 13:35
Yes, but the title says nothing about FPS Creator, just putting an FPS on a PS3. It was meant to lighten the mood a bit. Didn't help.

"And we played the first thing that came to our heads...Just so happened to be... the best song in the world...

it was the best song in the world..."
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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 13:38
Nice point Shadowtroid . Never saw it like that!
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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 13:40
Ha, nice catch

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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 15:06
Well hello there people I see my post has a HUGE conflict here going on lol. Well to tell you the truth i have been looking online and there are some products and web-sites to do what I was wondering to do, but I wasn't 100% satisfied with it. like there was this one web-site called http://www.linuxforps3installer.com/?hop=davidzh[/href] go to you tube and type How PS3 Can Be Used As A Super Computer (Hi-Res) and i think it can be done! But still not sure! Thank you all for the great feedback and not to mention the war going on here lol! Sorry to here about Broseph and Toasty Fresh!
chidem
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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 19:26
Quote: "like there was this one web-site called http://www.linuxforps3installer.com/?hop=davidzh go to you tube and type How PS3 Can Be Used As A Super Computer (Hi-Res) and i think it can be done! But still not sure!"


So, can you can run FPSC games on Linux...DirectX, DirectX, DirectX!

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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 20:16
Like i have said, its possible but i would need some work around pluss every one that buys you`re game would have to install a special OS to their PS3 just to play. Now thats something to think about isent it?
I am just speculating, BUT having a devolped special OS just for FPSC with a auto installer and FPSC files on disc. When its installed you could just force the PS3 to go from PS3 OS to special OS. It would work, AND its quite possible. (Not that someone would do this... for FPSC anyway).

You can have pc OS on the ps3 belive me for i have tried it, and yes it was a windows based OS with direct X !!!

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chidem
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Posted: 16th Feb 2010 20:38
Quote: "You can have pc OS on the ps3 belive me for i have tried it, and yes it was a windows based OS with direct X !!! "


Very cool - would still need to see it running, being the grumpy old skeptic that I am

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Posted: 17th Feb 2010 00:09
Well, I got the next best thing. I got a PS3 controller to work on my comp. So I can pretty much have the same effect. It's really easy, actually. Just look it up on Google to install drivers, then get something like Total Game Control and set it up to the FPSC controls.

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it was the best song in the world..."
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Posted: 17th Feb 2010 14:42
Well chidem i think it is possible because the web-site u have to download the product but u download on your PS3 then it streams games, TV, movies, music and a whole bunch of other things and its also alot faster on the web. So like i said check the web- site out and youtube video out also.... and also lol i like the flame war show on youtube haha made me laugh! ok see u guys later gtg to school =[
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Posted: 18th Feb 2010 21:33
Well... it might be a little bit easier than 360 integration (which I am 93% certain will work via my bit of wip: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=162094&b=21) at least. Someone may want to look into coding an emulator in the console's native languages and running the game-build as system files...

From all I've heard about the PS3, it uses a combination between a C derivative and OpenGL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_games#Development). If that does it, just apply to become a PSN developer (however that works.)

I'm not quite sure what will come up from this, but I'm now following the thread...


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Posted: 19th Feb 2010 00:30
Now, this is something. I have been looking around at how moving fpsc to a console. Thraxas is right on the level zips, most game have .dlls or something of that sort. No zipping of the levels. If you were to maybe re-write the build game process to stop the level zip it would make it simpler to make the transition from pc to whatever console.
Now the question that was asked can fpsc be put on ps3? Yes, but it will require some work to do that. For example the new Batman game is a game made in direct x11 format and is on microsoft's website as such. This game is on every console with the exceptions of the old xbox.
Windows based game work better on the xbox 360, but in order to do that you might need to change from this fpsc engine to something already trid and true, say for example torque or the unity engines.

What it all boils down to is that it would have to be up to the programmers of the fpsc to program in the ability to make it do a build game for a certain console. Problem is, companies that make console games go through alot of consoles trying to make one game. So you might be able to make a game for your console put it in and it could freeze up you console and now you are out $300-$600 bucks.

If you really want to have your game put on a console, I personaly would just contact sony, microsoft or nintendo and tell them what you would like to do and let them tell you haw to make it happen. Just use your own judgement on this. I would start where moving something already done by the tgc to another console has been done and ask your questions there. Look in this month's newsletter .

I hope through all of this rambling I made some sense of how to go about making it possible for you. Who know if enough people want the ability to make their own console games, maybe Lee and them will see to it, but I wouldn't hold might breath. I will tell you all what I will do, I will send this post to Lee and ask him to give a direct answer for all of us on this subject. Maybe he will have some insight on this.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2010 01:15
Quote: "I hope through all of this rambling I made some sense of how to go about making it possible for you. Who know if enough people want the ability to make their own console games, maybe Lee and them will see to it, but I wouldn't hold might breath. I will tell you all what I will do, I will send this post to Lee and ask him to give a direct answer for all of us on this subject. Maybe he will have some insight on this."


The only way I could see TGC doing this is, as Wraith stated in another thread, via XNA for Xbox 360. But I think even this approach would be difficult - the only reason I say that (and it is feasible to use XNA to create an emulator) is the poor backwards compatability of the 360 - in particular Red Dead Revolved from the original Xbox is supposed to run on 360 and huge parts of the graphics simply disappear. My point is that if Microsoft struggled to make Xbox games run on the 360 imagine the unforseen problems we could run into with FPSC. Don't get me wrong, I love this software - but sometimes it is difficult enough to get it running on PC! Starmind, I agree with you - if you want to develop a console game Torque would be my software of choice

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Posted: 19th Feb 2010 18:00
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Quote: " My IQ has decreased reading Daniels' posts.
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You've been on th Jerk list for awhile bucko. You freakazoid.
Quote: "*waits to be called a jerk some more before I explain myself*"

Theres nothing to explain, JERK.

Daniel, just ignore him, he is a Jerk and that was one of the most unnecessary comments i have ever seen on this forum.
Ignore the jerk and post, and have fun

This guy has been a jerk to me for a looooooooooong time.

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Posted: 20th Feb 2010 11:40 Edited at: 20th Feb 2010 11:47
Quote: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos"

I just knew that was gunna pop up

Also i don't think there's a disability that decreases your intelligence unless dislexia or something alot worse in which you wouldn't be on the Forums at all, I don't think you should use your Disability as an excuse, maybe in the real world but not on the internet, personnally i don't mind a spelling mistake or two, it's when ppl type Liek dis, that gets on my nerves.

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Posted: 20th Feb 2010 19:19
Quote: "You've been on th Jerk list for awhile bucko. You freakazoid. Theres nothing to explain, JERK."


General, you are just ASKING for it posting that kind of stuff. Are you deliberately trying to poke the fire? Because it certainly sounds like it. Don't you think the thread has moved on a bit from those posts? They were made 4 days ago...

Quote: "Also i don't think there's a disability that decreases your intelligence "


Again, I don't think we should be discussing this anymore. It's fair enough if you want to add your 2 cents, but the thread really has moved on a bit from then. Let's talk about getting FPSC onto the consoles instead. While there is a good chance it will never happen, it's still fun to speculate.
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Posted: 20th Feb 2010 20:50
Quote: "My IQ has decreased reading Daniels' posts."


My respect for you just plummeted, my friend...

Now please continue with the subject in hand...

Anyway, I don't think selling across PSN would work too well, development on PS3 is apparently difficult for even Professional companies, and Sony won't help you - hence the reason L4D2 isn't available on it...

XBox may be possible. It's a closer system to the PC, and has a marketplace more geared towards indie gamers than the PS3...

But I think we can all ignore the Wii in this argument...

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Posted: 20th Feb 2010 20:53
Quote: "Again, I don't think we should be discussing this anymore. It's fair enough if you want to add your 2 cents, but the thread really has moved on a bit from then. Let's talk about getting FPSC onto the consoles instead. While there is a good chance it will never happen, it's still fun to speculate. "


I remember having a dvd program that turned movie files (.wmv or w/e the extension was) Into Readable by PS3 or xbox dvd's maybe the same could be achieved with FPSC .Exe's?

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Posted: 20th Feb 2010 23:10
Nah, it's a whole different ball game than just changing the file extension...

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