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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 16:44 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 16:45
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Just thought that I would drop a few lines on this as it has been playing no my mind for quite a while.

So, my family is an army family, the most I've lived in one place at a time if 4 years and shortest 2 months. My father has served for almost 25 years and is now the rank of captain having worked his way up from sapper as he is in the Royal Engineers. I have personally lived in England, Scotland, Germany and Cyprus. Constantly moving around every 2 years at an average. I currently live in Germany, Hameln.

Just thought I would give a bit of background info there... So most of my life we have all has very little recognition from the United Kingdom's general population, yet when I went to America (one in a life time trip which I gotta say was awesome) there was boatloads. Anything we bought would be 'Military discount squire' and we would get like 20% off or whatever it was. I was just wondering if there is a military discount here. I know that this is a British company and that UK does not give recognition a lot, which personally makes me sick as most people don't realise what's going on out there and take the military for granted.

I'm not demanding free stuff or whatnot (though it would be nice ) Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?


I would like the communities input on this and any experiences that you have.

Oh, and to make this remotely FPSC connected, is there a discount for anything that is to do with FPSC and what is the best military FPSC game out there so far?

Thanks,

Ben Thompson


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I agree, there should be some kind of military discount out there. Thanks for your services to our country


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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 16:55 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 17:02
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I'm not British but don't military personel serving abroad pay less in taxes like most other countries that have personel stationed somewhere?

If so then there's your discount right there

In any case I think a military discount is a wierd thing to do for a private company that has nothing to do with the military. But that's just me maybe

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 17:11
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Quote: "I'm not British but don't military personel serving abroad pay less in taxes like most other countries that have personel stationed somewhere?
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errr no, you pay some taxes of the country your staying in, then you pay British taxes on top. You also have to pay for 'rent' of the house that you are staying in unless you wish to purchase your own which to army does not supply. The total 'rent' fee is actually way over the price it should be in comparison to UK. So to be quite frank, he are misinformed...

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 17:13
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Quote: "I'm not British but don't military personel serving abroad pay less in taxes like most other countries that have personel stationed somewhere?"


Not when I was in we didnt.

In my experience TGC loath giving discount even if youve been a customer since the beginning.

Theres the problem of proving youre in the service anyway and doing that is a security risk.

Good luck though, I really hope you succeed.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 17:15 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 17:15
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Quote: "In my experience TGC loath giving discount even if youve been a customer since the beginning.
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Once again I think this is pathetic also. They were offering the bonanza pack, 3 model packs and 200 store pints all for free if won the big FPSC Comp and they can't spare a little for service personnel who protect their sorry asses all day.

I MEAN WTF!?

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 17:34
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Quote: "Once again I think this is pathetic also. They were offering the bonanza pack, 3 model packs and 200 store pints all for free if won the big FPSC Comp and they can't spare a little for service personnel who protect their sorry asses all day.

I MEAN WTF!?"


It's not up to them to give you a discount if you go and fight a battle. It's not their fault, and frankly it's cheeky that you're even asking for a discount in the first place!

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I agree with lewis. My uncle, who shall remain nameless, is ex-sas and currently in the MI5. He doesnt go around asking for discounts and expecting them where ever he goes (there is the secretive side i guess). My point is, if you get a discount, be happy, and dont expect it as the norm.

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Quote: "I'm not British but don't military personnel serving abroad pay less in taxes like most other countries that have personnel stationed somewhere?"

We pay the same taxes abroad that anyone else does. The only difference for me was that I didn't pay any State taxes, because my State (Michigan) gave the break to us as recognition...not all States do that.

TGC has been very generous on numerous occasions, to all members (whether it's through discounts on already inexpensive developing tools, or through prizes for competitions) here. They continue to do so. I can tell you that you won't find many other places in the game development circle that offer such inexpensive media, that is professional quality.

As far as the military discount (been in the US Army myself since 1995; 8 years active duty, with the rest served in the National Guard...1 trip to Iraq) goes; it would be difficult to prove, without compromising certain sensitive information. Not sure how they would go about it; most places that offer it just require you to show your ID, which would be hard to do over the internet (as someone could scan another's ID and use it for themselves). But you never know.

As far as many countries not appreciating their military member's service; that happens everywhere, at the same time there are those who go out of their way to give recognition. Some people can't separate the War from the service members, and that's sad.

It could be that TGC has never thought about it; perhaps you should send them an email and get their perspective on the matter?

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 18:01
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Quote: "It could be that TGC has never thought about it; perhaps you should send them an email and get their perspective on the matter?"


I know exactly what they would say.

After spending €200+ on software over the years with no discount (even after politely asking for ANY kind of discount) I no longer buy from them.

And if anyone says 'they dont have to' etc then youre right. But then the customer is right not to buy from them any more either. TBH I think TGC is a unique company in NOT giving discounts for long standing, paying customers.

Their loss really.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 18:26
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Quote: "TBH I think TGC is a unique company in NOT giving discounts for long standing, paying customers."


Model Pack 31 = free for existing customers
(guessing) 16 upgrade releases of FPSC = free

Quote: "and they can't spare a little for service personnel who protect their sorry asses all day. "


That'll win 'em over!

I don't think anyone ever joined the service for the random merchant discounts and handouts. We'll I'm sure someone has at some point or another
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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 18:30 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 18:32
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Quote: "It's not up to them to give you a discount if you go and fight a battle. It's not their fault, and frankly it's cheeky that you're even asking for a discount in the first place!"


Can you not read 'honestly'? As mentioned in my first post: I'm not demanding free stuff or whatnot (though it would be nice ) Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?

^ and yes, that was cheeky

Quote: "My uncle, who shall remain nameless, is ex-sas and currently in the MI5"


Anyone who admits there are in the SAS, MI5 or any secretive government organization or regiment means that they are not...

It seems that the elite regiment of 200 soldiers is actually 20,000 strong. Now that seems strange?

Quote: "It could be that TGC has never thought about it; perhaps you should send them an email and get their perspective on the matter?"


That was the plan if I got relatively good feedback here. Seems to be more controversial than I thought.

Quote: "Their loss really."


I think that there is quite a few floors in their sales and public relations but it's not my place to question there business skills. Only to introduce possible new strategies and ideas as a customer.

Quote: "I don't think anyone ever joined the service for the random merchant discounts and handouts."


Neither did my father. And just to make that clear it is my father in the military not me as mentioned in the first post.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 18:32
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Quote: "I don't think anyone ever joined the service for the random merchant discounts and handouts."

I know I didn't. I joined because I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life at that particular time...so why not serve my country while I'm figuring it out? I didn't even get a bonus for signing up back then ('95).

Any recognition of my/our service is welcome, but not expected. There's this little word we use sometimes in the military, and it's got nothing to do with handouts or free trips to DisneyWorld:

It's called Sacrifice.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 18:36
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Quote: "Any recognition of my/our service is welcome, but not expected. There's this little word we use sometimes in the military, and it's got nothing to do with handouts or free trips to DisneyWorld:

It's called Sacrifice."


Well spoken, Keith.

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Quote: "Anyone who admits there are in the SAS, MI5 or any secretive government organization or regiment means that they are not... "


And yet the government has had all record of himself removed from any media coverage, not to mention the very few photos that i have seen of his destroyed humvee (or the birtish version w/e) from both iraq and afganistan. To be honest i couldnt care less if you believe.

With your expectation to have discounts, its rediculas to demand them from the TGC. Not to mention that your tone isnt doing you any favours as KeithC has pointed out. I expect that this thread will be locked soon.

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Quote: "Once again I think this is pathetic also. They were offering the bonanza pack, 3 model packs and 200 store pints all for free if won the big FPSC Comp and they can't spare a little for service personnel who protect their sorry asses all day.

I MEAN WTF!?"


Yeah, you had me until that little slip. Has your father seen this post?

There are many patriots here who served and continue to serve their country. I am one of them, and if a child of mine tried to lower the cost of my sacrifice to the price of a game engine, he would be following me out to the wood shed for a lesson in respect.

I doubt your father believes that the people he protects are "sorry asses". You might want to have a talk with him. Quit looking for a handout and be proud of what you contribute to his sacrifice.

That said, I am 100% in favor of any company that acknowledges the sacrifice of our military personnel through whatever means available.

Brian.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 19:43 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 19:48
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Quote: "With your expectation to have discounts, its rediculas to demand them from the TGC."


^ Once again, please check the first post!:

'I'm not demanding free stuff or whatnot (though it would be nice ) Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?'

Quote: "Yeah, you had me until that little slip. Has your father seen this post?

There are many patriots here who served and continue to serve their country. I am one of them, and if a child of mine tried to lower the cost of my sacrifice to the price of a game engine, he would be following me out to the wood shed for a lesson in respect.

I doubt your father believes that the people he protects are "sorry asses". You might want to have a talk with him. Quit looking for a handout and be proud of what you contribute to his sacrifice. "


I have spoken about subjects such as this about him. He roughly shares my views, I actually find it quite amusing to watch him blow over subjects like this.

Quote: "Has your father seen this post? "


he is currently serving in Afghanistan...


Reading over my posts I realise that I have not been the most polite or had the best attitude. Yet neither am I demanding as it may come across. Just letting off a bit of steam...

I do apologise for anything I may have said that may be found offensive...

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 19:59
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Quote: "I do apologise for anything I may have said that may be found offensive... "


So do I. I'm just feel strongly about the subject and so do you.

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I must admit I had taken this topic the wrong way at first. Thanks to Keith for the little chat and clarification to its intent.

With that said, I believe that it would be more of a headache for TGC in the end than for us. In order to give some sort of military discount, they would need some form of proof. I know for a fact that I won't be supplying any of my military information to TGC (no offense TGC).

Receiving a discount is rewarding at times. For example, and I have shared this with Keith in our chat, our unit is part of a disaster response group in our country. We have been deployed to areas with flooding, fires, etc. There have been times where hotels have given us free accommodations for our services. It is a polite gesture and certainly appreciated. There are times where we buy equipment to replenish our kits and some places give a 10% discount to us for our services. Again, it is appreciated. As far as the computer world goes, I've never heard or seen any software company give a discount to military services. Would Microsoft? That would be like myself going to Brian and saying "hey Brian. I'm military too. Can I get a discount on your Holz application?" or asking for some discount on model packs. However, it is how you look at it in the end.

I'm not criticizing your intent, or even saying you are wrong. You asked for an opinion and this is just mine. From my perspective, knowing what I do in the military, who I am responsible for, who I answer to, I do it because I want to serve my country. If I get a free hotel room, a free meal, cup of coffee for my work, I always appreciate the gesture. If I get a simple "thank-you", that makes me even more happy, even in my particular field. Some people we have helped have nothing to give except a simple "thank you", and for me the saving of a life is more rewarding than any discount can ever give.

Semper Fi

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 20:23
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Quote: "our unit is part of a disaster response group in our country. We have been deployed to areas with flooding, fires, etc."
Quote: "Semper Fi"


errr not to try to piss anyone else off, but ain't that that motto of the USMC?


and, I do appreciate your input. I'm not demanding or even asking! I was asking if there was a current system or if they will be introducing one. I did not say anything alng the lines of 'HEY! TGC give me a discount! I'm military.' nor was it intended to even be like 'TGC, will you give me a reasonable price reduction for my services in the service?'

I think my point has been largely misinterpreted. Probably my style of writing, tone and replies... :/

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Quote: "errr not to try to piss anyone else off, but ain't that that motto of the USMC?"


And the point is? I know many servicemen that use this phrase. I could have used this from our Regiment:

Velox Versutus Vigilans

or how about Ubique...

Regardless of mottos, you asked for opinions, I gave mine. I really think that it would be more of a headache for TGC to put something in place and offer something to those that serve. They would have to keep track of all information, guarantee that it would NOT be given out, etc. What about the vets? Would they qualify? And what countries military would qualify? Get my point?

Cheers

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You lived in Scotland? I lived there 5 years ago and we were there for 8 years. I miss the snow

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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 22:45 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 22:46
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I'm highly intellectual. I would like TGC to acknowledge that by giving me a discount.

Sorry, I just thought the idea of giving discounts because you've had a tough job is sort of ridiculous.
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Posted: 26th Feb 2010 23:53 Edited at: 26th Feb 2010 23:53
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Quote: "'m highly intellectual. I would like TGC to acknowledge that by giving me a discount.

Sorry, I just thought the idea of giving discounts because you've had a tough job is sort of ridiculous. "


Not as ridiculous as your post.

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I live on planet Earth, I'm human, my IQ is higher than -2, and to top it all off I live, get this, IN A HOUSE!!! Where's my discount, TGC?

lol, no offense intended

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Quote: "Once again I think this is pathetic also. They were offering the bonanza pack, 3 model packs and 200 store pints all for free if won the big FPSC Comp and they can't spare a little for service personnel who protect their sorry asses all day. "


Well, TGC are a small company. They can't afford to hand out discounts, because how can they tell if Jim Bloggs' dad's in the parachute regiments or not...

I don't see too many soldiers asking for discounts everywhere. Most are happy to be paid their wages, have their heroism medalled, and serve their country...

And with all due respect, the last time we were at war with a power that could even reach this country was sixty years ago. Right now we're just crushing a group of persistent guerilla heroin dealers...

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There might not be explicitly stated discounts, but everything here is cheap to start off with.

I think people overlook frequently how cheap the model packs are. Seriously have a look around and see that individual models are more expensive than entire model packs here.

As Solid Chrome said it's up to us as consumers to make a choice as to where we spend our money. I choose TGC software and model packs because as a hobbyist, with no intention of doing this for a living, TGCs prices make it an affordable one.

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Quote: "And with all due respect, the last time we were at war with a power that could even reach this country was sixty years ago. Right now we're just crushing a group of persistent guerilla heroin dealers..."

I'm pretty sure the Twin Towers and Pentagon can attest to them "reaching this country".
; not to mention the numerous families who had lost loved ones in that horrific day. I don't think you want to go there, especially with what appears to be a simplistic view of the situation....with all due respect.

If this thread degenerates into a conversation of that type, it will be locked; and sanctions will be handed out for the perpetrators.

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So the sol-diers and the nay-v who do take the King's shilling do shout for thalers. Shout loud. Loud until the walls come down.

I am sure all kinds of interesting parties on the Internet would love to see your particular details on the TGC registry, I bet they would love to give you all kinds of gifts for your trouble.

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Quote: "You lived in Scotland? I lived there 5 years ago and we were there for 8 years. I miss the snow"

There's still plenty, I'll FedEx you some.

The whole idea of this seems ridiculous. Service men and women do a marvellous job, and it demands a lot of respect, but expecting a discount on items seems odd.

I could understand if it was something service-related, or practical, but you're talking software, which is purely for entertainment.

What makes it even further confusing, and removed from the point, is that you yourself are not a serviceman, it is your father's career. I'm sure moving around so frequently isn't a pleasant experience, but your father still earns a wage. What about people who's parents are unemployed, or are on minimum wage? Should software be given out, or discounted because of their hardship? It's just not feasible.

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Just wanted to say I really appreciate the difficult job done by all armed forces in the alliance, as for discounts I doubt any members of the services actually search this kind of thing out they just accept whatever appreciation is shown to them in whatever form, its called 'Grace' and is an attribute which is sadly lacking in many members of society today. Pride in their service to their countries is what makes these individuals special and I dont believe they would want to lower themselves by looking for favours in this way.
Quote: "I have spoken about subjects such as this about him. He roughly shares my views, I actually find it quite amusing to watch him blow over subjects like this."

Your father is likely referring to ungrateful types who dont recognise what is sacrificed not so much that he should be 'favoured' for what he does, respect is much more valuable in my opinion and ten percent off doesnt really hit it.
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I think that tgc shouldn't give militairy discount, firstly people choose to go 25 years in the army, and if you give militairy discount, people will ask for other types of discount.

I totally agree with Chordata.



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Quote: "I'm not demanding free stuff or whatnot (though it would be nice ) Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced? "


^ I would just like to make that clear as it comes across as if I'm being 'put down' for demanding etc.


Quote: "And with all due respect, the last time we were at war with a power that could even reach this country was sixty years ago. Right now we're just crushing a group of persistent guerilla heroin dealers..."


don't even go there...

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Quote: "Model Pack 31 = free for existing customers
(guessing) 16 upgrade releases of FPSC = free"


True we did get a free model pack but, for me, it was like getting a free pack of tampons with my razor blades- free but totally useless.

And the upgrades only re-inforce the state of the buggy software.

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Military Discount? Hah! Ha ha hah! That's funny man. I'm an x-bubblehead (U.S. Submarine Service) during the viet-nam Era and I got Plenty of discounts. I've been dis-counted outta dis and I've been dis-counted outta dat and am still being dis-counted. Expect nothing my friend.
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Quote: " Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced? ""


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No offence, but this seems silly.. I mean I 'protect' stuff as well, I protect your homes from rotting away by putting a good layer of paint on them, so I guess I could demand discounts as well?

No but really, this seems rather silly.. Sure I do respect the people that are in the army for whatever reason, but do remember that it was voluntarily! They didn't get forced to sign up and you did it on your own will, you get the respect of pretty much your entire nation and you get the pride to represent your countries cause.. And you whine about silly discounts on something small like this? I mean you're being REALLY greedy and cheap there.. Look at the costs of other Indie Development engines, them lisences are at least 10x as pricy as TGC lisences, and often still come with royalties when you make an X amount of money, same goes for models, let alone model packs!

So yeah, as a summary I find it really cheap of you to ask for discounts, AND an ABUSE of your family's status to get simple discounts.. Yeah you read that right, to me it seems like you're using your family as an excuse for cheap stuff, no major offence intended in that, but it just does.


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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 12:35 Edited at: 27th Feb 2010 12:37
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Quote: "I could demand discounts as well?"
Quote: "Yeah you read that right, to me it seems like you're using your family as an excuse for cheap stuff, no major offence intended in that, but it just does."


Seriously, again? Try looking at some of my more recent posts:

Quote: "Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?"


Quite frankly I think that I have not put my idea across well enough.

Just for the record I was not demanding! I was merely asking if there was anything here or anything that was going to happen!

Could a mod please lock this?

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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 12:39
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Quote: "Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?"

That should explain why it sounds so demanding.


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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 12:40
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I concur w/Sylvester
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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 12:44
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I have a question: Are you, as in, yourself, actually serving in the military or have you served previously in the military at all? Because I don't see why we should even consider giving you a discount in your name if you aren't or haven't been in the military at all, because I doubt your father wants game creation software.

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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 12:46
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Yo, Bootlicker, I agree that a mod should lock this for it has gone on long enough though it did provide for me some interesting reading on a rather boring morning, I too was a military brat and I understand where you are coming from, but this topic seems rather touchy to some including myself so I think all should just move on and let this thread die,,,,i will say no more
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Quote: "I'm pretty sure the Twin Towers and Pentagon can attest to them "reaching this country"."


True, I'm sorry for insulting any people here. I just meant that those, and the 7/7 attacks over here, we're caused by a surprise hijacking of civilian transport, something both our militaries were simply powerless to avoid.

I meant a full-blown invasion. So far it's been terrorist attacks. Sure, huge, destructive terrorist attacks, but still not an actual military power as we had to face 60 years ago.

I'll apologise again. Sorry.

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No I have not, the only reason I was inclined to believe that I would achieve anything was my experiences in America. All I have to do was show my BFG ID and I got discounts. It was without anyone else around who was related to the military. That was why I posted to see if I could achieve anything by being related to a military member. Selfish I know, I still stand by with not demanding anything though, only asking if there was anything already.

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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 14:32 Edited at: 27th Feb 2010 14:33
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Bootlicker,

Quote: ""Just wondering if there is anything I could take advantage of or if anything is going to be introduced?""


I agree with Silvester. Quote that line all you want, but you are still asking for stuff no matter how you put it across. Asking if theres something you can 'Take advantage of' is still demanding, no matter how you word it.

TGC/FPSC is purely for entertainments sake. Theyre a small company as it is without losing out on even more.

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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 14:48
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I don't see how that line is demanding at all.
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Posted: 27th Feb 2010 15:04
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I can see how it can been seen as 'demanding' stuff. It was not intended in that way at all.

Maybe my bad wording.

Anyways, I would still like this thread locked.

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Let's tie this up, TGC is a British company. You said yourself they don't do discounts, so I'm sorry.

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Quote: "Could a mod please lock this?"


Done.



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