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Sven
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Posted: 14th Mar 2010 12:37 Edited at: 14th Mar 2010 20:09
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Hello, I want to make a huge model pack with everything you need to make professional games: Pro Pack. It cantains honderds of entity's (that is have created with friends), crosshairs, huds, segments, ...

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The price of the package is $ 7.50 or € 5, -.



Thank you very much!


Ps. Of course, people who have given (good) models get the package for free!


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Posted: 14th Mar 2010 12:47 Edited at: 14th Mar 2010 13:04
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Here are some things that we have maded or want to made:

gum on the street
cigarette boxes
bags
candy packaging
trees
containers
flower box
hash
flowers
street signs
cans
coins (penny)
coins (euro)
coins (dollar)
dollar's
drain covers
bottles (empty)
leaves of trees
receipts
pawns
glass shards
cups
graffiti
blood
water
boxes
apples
apples (a little bit)
apples (cored)
lollipops
bird droppings
bits of paper
signs on the road (stripes etc.)
crushed cans
bread (biitten)
sachets of sugar
teabags
Waffles
muffins
streetlights
basketball net


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Posted: 14th Mar 2010 12:51 Edited at: 14th Mar 2010 13:04
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We also want to make some sights for in the model pack. We have finished the red dot sight and acog scope, screenies come as soon as possible.

We are aso recording HQ gunsounds and normal sounds like footsteps.


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Posted: 14th Mar 2010 13:41 Edited at: 14th Mar 2010 13:43
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And if you have request (models, sounds, segments etc.) for in the pack, let me know.


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Posted: 14th Mar 2010 13:53 Edited at: 14th Mar 2010 13:55
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wow. 4 posts in a row? That must be a record.

Anyways, you cant expect people to give you models for free for you to texture and for you to make money out of. Try making them yourself

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You cant expect to get 41 models for free either...

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We make the models that i've posted self. But sometimes people have some old models on their pc...

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Yes. But generally 99% of people dont give away their models so they can be sold by someone else.

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I wouldent give away my models, however when i release something you can buy the rights of my product. For a price...



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here is a small screenie of a road segment:





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but are there requests?

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If you are going to "show" your models, then this should be moved to media section...



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Quote: "I wouldent give away my models, however when i release something you can buy the rights of my product. For a price...



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And if you get the pack for free, in exchange for 1 model? Or some segments?

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Quote: "If you are going to "show" your models, then this should be moved to media section..."


Ok, let's go

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Hmm, i am not a moderator if that`s what you are implying.



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here is another screenshot:



but PLEASE, donate some models!

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lmao

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??? what do you mean?

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I could donate huds...
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Your business model is good, but your sales pitch needs work. Everyone would love to get stuff for free and then sell it for a profit, but the problem (as you are beginning to find out) is getting people to give you the free stuff that you will sell.

If you don't offer more incentive you're going to have to make most or all of the content yourself. That incentive could come in many forms and doesn't necessarily need to be monetary. People just need to see good reason to let you sell their work.

Brian.

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Sven, I would give you some of my models if the pack was free, but, it costs money, which gives you money, but where is the money for the models I have gieven you? People just aren't going to give you their models for YOU to make money on them

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Quote: "Your business model is good, but your sales pitch needs work. Everyone would love to get stuff for free and then sell it for a profit, but the problem (as you are beginning to find out) is getting people to give you the free stuff that you will sell.

If you don't offer more incentive you're going to have to make most or all of the content yourself. That incentive could come in many forms and doesn't necessarily need to be monetary. People just need to see good reason to let you sell their work.

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Quote: "Sven, I would give you some of my models if the pack was free, but, it costs money, which gives you money, but where is the money for the models I have gieven you? People just aren't going to give you their models for YOU to make money on them"


ok, thanks for the advice, your are right. I'm gonna make the models self.

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but do you want to buy the pack when finished? Becouse it's mutch work

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Lee Iacocca (an American businessman known for his revival of the Chrysler Corporation in the 1980s) relates this story. He said that many years ago his father told him something like this....

"There are two kinds of cars. Ones that sell, and ones that don't. If you can, make the ones that sell."

I offer you the same advise. Make a pack that we want to buy.

Brian.

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yes, i do what i can do

the pack gonna include HQ costum sights and silencers (and a tut for the attachment) so you can make "your own style" gun's, with other gun-sounds (also self-recorded HQ) and muzzle flashes (self maded in PS CS4).

It also include hill terrain's and rocks.

But what do you want in the pack? Do you have tips?

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In such a pack that says "All you need to make professional games" I would expect to find some of every type of content that FPSC uses.

entities
segments
weapons
characters
sounds
music
scripts
HUDs
decals
etc, etc, etc

And in multiple themes.

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Well, how do we know if your other things are any good? What about your muzzleflashes? Attatchments? Can we see some more screens?

Again, though, like others have said, you can't get stuff for free and then sell it. People won't do that.

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Sven, you sig banner is way too small, you would get more interest if it was bigger. Also the picture of the box is a bit small, that also needs to be bigger and add something to draw the eye in, say neon lights or something very flashy that draws attention to it, you know, something that could possibly bring on an epileptic fit with its massive exploding disco flash effect.

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Quote: "In such a pack that says "All you need to make professional games" I would expect to find some of every type of content that FPSC uses.

entities
segments
weapons
characters
sounds
music
scripts
HUDs
decals
etc, etc, etc

And in multiple themes. "


I do that all, but no weapons (it tsn't allowed, EAI hands) and charcers (to difficult).

Quote: "Well, how do we know if your other things are any good? What about your muzzleflashes? Attatchments? Can we see some more screens?

Again, though, like others have said, you can't get stuff for free and then sell it. People won't do that."


Screenshot of red dot:





It's not finished jet.

A friend is bizzy for the acog scope.

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good or not

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Request: you need media for more genres than modern if this is going to be a need to have models & media pack. you need stuff for Sci-Fi and Fantasy games. this is not is more of a suggestion.

good luck with the pack


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I would give you huds and muzzleflashes (if I can get onto making muzzleflashes). But the idea is good, but if you call it all you need to make professional games, you need weapons, ofcouse, they can be without EAI hands, who said they need to be rigged to them, or you can make your own hands to the weapons you make. But something like tutorials would be nice for a newbie too, if someone new buys this. If it comes out. But the idea is good and I hope you get it done.

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Quote: "Request: you need media for more genres than modern if this is going to be a need to have models & media pack. you need stuff for Sci-Fi and Fantasy games. this is not is more of a suggestion.

good luck with the pack
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Thanks fot the tip, i gonna put more sci-fy in it!

Quote: "I would give you huds and muzzleflashes (if I can get onto making muzzleflashes). But the idea is good, but if you call it all you need to make professional games, you need weapons, ofcouse, they can be without EAI hands, who said they need to be rigged to them, or you can make your own hands to the weapons you make. But something like tutorials would be nice for a newbie too, if someone new buys this. If it comes out. But the idea is good and I hope you get it done.
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Thanks you very mutch for the offer! Mail me if you want

Here is an muzzle:


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Quote: "I could donate huds..."


Okey, thanks, mail me

Quote: "But the idea is good, but if you call it all you need to make professional games, you need weapons, ofcouse, they can be without EAI hands, who said they need to be rigged to them, or you can make your own hands to the weapons you make. "


I really want to buy Weapon Creation System, so i can make weapons. But i don't have 10 dollar. I have spend all my money to magic fps. I will get my pocket money just over 3 weeks. Would you want to invest in the pack, by donate some money?

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Are you looking to make a model pack or are you looking for us to fund your making of a model pack? Will we then buy the model pack? Like others have said..your sales pitch isn't that convincing at all. Essentially you're offering no incentives but asking for other people's models to sell and now money so that you can buy the tools to create the content.

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It's not a model request anymore:

Quote: "ok, thanks for the advice, your are right. I'm gonna make the models self. "


I'm also not looking for money, but if everyone wants weapons in the game, in need it

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another muzzle flash:


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and a sci-fy muzzle:



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is it good?

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Sven, there is no need to quadruple post. One post with 2 images and some text in would suffice. Also, try ot to bump your own thread, its sorta 'frowned' upon because it distracts users from more important things to a post which is "is it good?"

I like the muzzle flashes, but the purple one is a little 'funky'. But i would definitely use the 1st one you posted.

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Hey this is looking great buddy keep up the good work

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i can make same beter muzzleflashs

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I will mail you tomorrow! Going to sleep now!

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So you have 1 muzzleflash(not too good) and then switch up the hue?

I sure hope that is not the best part of your pack.

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Thank you very mutch!

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This sounds like a way for him to get free media as he has not the money to buy any for himeslef. why in the world would I or any of the people that modle here just give you our stuff for you to sell and make a profit on,this makes no sence to me at all. alot of us sell our own media for our selfs and we make money for our selfs. you will never see me just donate my works to some one so they can make money off of it.

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Quote: "But i would definitely use the 1st one you posted.
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Quote: "Hey this is looking great buddy keep up the good work
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Thanks, i'm much appreciated

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these come in the pack:









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Quote: "This sounds like a way for him to get free media as he has not the money to buy any for himeslef. why in the world would I or any of the people that modle here just give you our stuff for you to sell and make a profit on,this makes no sence to me at all. alot of us sell our own media for our selfs and we make money for our selfs. you will never see me just donate my works to some one so they can make money off of it."


I'm not asking for models or money anymore. It was just a big mistake from me, I had not thought enough of it. I am now working with 2 other to make everything self.

And i have spend 110 euro on my game (software, server...) and this is just a way for recoup a little bit of that.

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screenshot red dot sight:



Is it a little bit good?

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That red dot site has WAAAAAAAYYYY too many polys. More FPSC guns have that amount WITH a red dot sight. I suggest a redo However, im still loving the muzzleflashes.

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