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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Where to report Piracy of Model Packs?

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TerrorNation
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 22:31
I was just wondering where we should report pirate copies of model packs, and whether TGC could deal with it?
Bootlicker
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 22:39
email the links to a mod
TerrorNation
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 22:41
Have any of the links been taken down in the past?
Bootlicker
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 22:47
No idea

probably not..
KeithC
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 23:01
Again; there is a sticky just above this: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=115169&b=21

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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 23:06
I saw it, but I thought it was only to report Piracy to the large authorities out there :/ . Obviously I'm wrong. Thanks KeithC.
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Posted: 5th Apr 2010 23:25
You can also try emailing Lee and/or Rick as well; since it is ultimately up to them to see whether or not they will pursue the site pirating media.

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Posted: 6th Apr 2010 00:22
Ok thank you for the advice. I noticed bond1's media pirated recently too (zombie apocalypse).
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Posted: 6th Apr 2010 01:00
Quote: "Have any of the links been taken down in the past? "


Yes, believe me TGC do act on piracy.

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Posted: 6th Apr 2010 05:34
Agreed with Nicky...

I've reported a pirate on YouTube once to Lee himself and I must say, he dealt with it quite nicely, if you know what I mean.

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TerrorNation
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 12:56
Quote: "Yes, believe me TGC do act on piracy."


That's good to know.
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:06
And I really wonder how some people FIND such URLs in the first place? I mean to find a download for a pirated copy you'd kind of have to be a pirate..? I highly doubt people browse websites with illegal content for the lolz to see if they can find anything to report on them.


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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:10 Edited at: 11th Apr 2010 14:32
You find them when searching for legitimate things. When I was looking for fps creator all I had to do was search for it (like everyone does), and a whole horde of illegal links appear. Same for any commercial program out there. So NO, you do not need to be a pirate.
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:13 Edited at: 9th Apr 2010 13:14
I've just done a Google search and didn't find ANY Illegal References up to page 40.. Then I got bored of clicking. All I found were Demo downloads with links to the official site. So I still stand to my point where I find it odd how people find such links.


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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:13 Edited at: 9th Apr 2010 13:16
I don't believe you. Page 3 has a torrent reference. You obviously didn't look well enough. Page 4 too. Try searching again. Oh, and the PIRATE BAY has come up on page 5. I told you, innocent people like us can find pirate links just for searching for software.
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:15 Edited at: 9th Apr 2010 13:18
Quote: "PS If you knew me well enough, you wouldn't even THINK of suggesting that I was a prate."

I'm not suggesting you are, I'm just stating my opinion on how people would find such links, and mind you we've had some very well respected people around that ended up with performing illegal actions.

Quote: "Page 3 has a torrent reference. You obviously didn't look well enough. Page 4 too. Try searching again."

Incorrect, it also depends on your location. Mine doesn't show any (The Netherlands)

And for the love of god stop editing your posts and post a full response at once! This is madness! (And don't go Sparta on me, you'll kill a kitten.)


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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 13:17
I am fully aware of that. That is why I wasn't sure whether I should make this topic because it is a sensitive one where you can get accused of piracy..
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 14:02
You can't get them removed from a torrent tracker, so don't even bother. The mods and admins already know about them but can't do anything about them, so why bother reporting them? If it was Rapidshare it would be a bit different.

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Oh ok. I didn't know TGC couldn't act on the torrent trackers..
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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 17:47
Torrents are Peer to Peer downloads, if you take one down there's 20 billion other copies around waiting to be seeding it again.


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Posted: 9th Apr 2010 19:21
its a mad world...

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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 02:38
Quote: "And I really wonder how some people FIND such URLs in the first place"


Quote: "You find them when searching for legitimate things. When I was looking for fps creator all I had to do was search for it (like everyone does), and a whole horde of illegal links appear"


Exactly, I found one when I was browsing (like a year ago) FPSC vids on YouTube. It was the only case of piracy in FPSC I ever saw till this date. It's the one I mentioned I reported to Lee up a few posts.

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indeed if u type fps creator in google about 3 pages u see torrent links so terornation is right...

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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 04:20
Google Search doesn't do much to deter from it either:




crispex
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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 05:45
I remember at one point a few of my buddies started a anti-piracy site for TGC products, however some members felt compelled to try to somehow take charge and get us shut down, so we stopped.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 05:49
Quote: "I remember at one point a few of my buddies started a anti-piracy site for TGC products, however some members felt compelled to try to somehow take charge and get us shut down, so we stopped.
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hmmm IIRC one of the members of that site was one of the biggest pirates of TGC software and media

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PW Productions
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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 06:14
Quote: "hmmm IIRC one of the members of that site was one of the biggest pirates of TGC software and media "


Ironic, simply ironic.

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Keep your enemies close, aye?


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Aye, aye.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2010 06:40
Quote: "hmmm IIRC one of the members of that site was one of the biggest pirates of TGC software and media"


Wasn't me, all the products I use were purchased by our technology training center.

But it doesn't change the fact that more than half of the people that ever come here own pirated TGC products. Unlike others, piracy isn't taboo to me. I prefer to pay for software, and being as I can get software from the tech center (with terms and conditions of course), I don't feel the need to pirate anything. I respect that some people can't afford some products, but I never encourage anyone to steal them.

That being said, most companies and software websites don't talk about piracy, they feel it's bad for business. I like TGC because most people here are realistic and see that the products can be illegally obtained.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2010 00:02
Quote: "PS If you knew me well enough, you wouldn't even THINK of suggesting that I was a prat."


Sorry XD

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Posted: 11th Apr 2010 13:45
torrents can be taken down just like any other link.
The problem is people just make a new tracker, so you report the new tracker and then discover something very interesting.

90% of all traffic handeled by the tracking server is illegal.
Very interesting indeed.

What's even more interesting is that they're exempt from legal prosceution because they claim "we do not manage our own content". So, a person who so happens to get a girl in a room, and so happens to take some money from a guy who then meets up with said girl, is in no way liable for any actions said girl performs on said guy.

The only reason we haven't completely abolished piracy is because no country has the balls to do it. And then we have GOOGLE comming out saying "Well, I'm a GOD and you're just a sorry little country... so F'You chinese government, I'm going to do what the hell I please" which only shows how despratly we need to setup firm guidlines to procecute against any individual, regardless of orgin of server or current address, for crimes against the state.


Server locality is bupkis and even the atterney using it know it... but no one has the balls to step down and lay down the law. Someone sitting from international waters fires an ICBM at a country. And you're saying said country wouldn't pull hell and high water to get that individual behind THEIR bars?

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Posted: 11th Apr 2010 14:19
Quote: ""PS If you knew me well enough, you wouldn't even THINK of suggesting that I was a prat.""


Funny.

There's no need to troll on my thread, especially as I didn't even say that. If you have nothing good to say, please don't say anything.
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Posted: 14th Apr 2010 21:53
When I try to search FPS Creator in google, the second result I get is a torrent site... and about 90% of all the results are... You know, I live in Finland, the golden land of piracy...


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