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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Ninjas with FPSC?

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Monkey Mja
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Hey guys, whats up?

I've been wondering, would FPSC be good for a ninja game? Jumping from buildings, crawling through vents, sneaking by NPC's, using stratergy, etc?

I already know FPSC can be great for shooters and you can even use swords to dice and slice people to bits and spitz, but would it be good for 'other' types of FPS's?

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I think it would, i once wanted to make a sort of "free-running" game.
You know something like mirror's edge but not as complicated as mirror's edge.
(since it is still FPSC)

But i think FPSC is capable of doing something like that. The only thing is.
You'll need matching assets to make a good looking environment.
And also forget the animations mirror's edge has.
Cause that would probably be impossible in FPSC.
And of course very hard to make if it was possible.

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Monkey Mja
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MIRRORS EDGE. That was exactly what I had in mind, yet I thought the climbing and stuff would be too complicated. Thats why I just switched it from a Mirrors Edge idea to a Ninja gameish idea.

However, could FPSC have:

- Sneaking by enemies
- A non-laggy jumping from building to building system.
- Longer jumps
- What about the other aspects of Mirrors Edge? Such as wall jumping?

As otherwise I would have to revert to my "Halo"ish idea, and lets face it, Mirrors Edge is a much better game.

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Metal Devil123
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well, clibing can be don by a small narrow invicible wall. But the idea sounds cool.

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sounds good but u would have to make coustom scrips to control every thing.

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Stealth is nearly impossible in FPSC. First off you need to create a whole bunch of new animations o accommodate proper stealth. Plus the engine overall cannot truly have stealth, it just notices you if you get within a certain distance pretty much.

The new DAI in the migration can probably help though.

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Actually, I got stealth working very well. It required only a small amount of scripting. I had it so that the enemy relied on its view cone angle as well as a very small distance between it and the player (so if the player 'bumps' into him, he will know). It worked great! But sadly, enemy AI cannot recognise sounds. The sound condition within the scripting language is essentially of no use as well.

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Monkey Mja
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PWP, Can I have the script please? It makes me one step closer to my ninja game. Also, how well will jumping from Walmart to Mcdonalds work out?

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Quote: "The sound condition within the scripting language is essentially of no use as well."


The NOISEHEARD condition? I had that working quite well when I fired a weapon, and it responded. You need to set some rather tricky conditions with it if you want a stealthy approach .

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Monkey Mja
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Ok, can I have the stealth script please?


And how well is jumping building to building in FPSC?

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You're not going for a Ninja's Vs. Pirates game.....are you?

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If you insist that I do so...

But pirates ride ships which go on water. Have to wait for 1.17 before starting it. But seriously, can somebody answer my post above?

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Bump?

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Quote: " "free-running""


let's do that bro!

@ this thread.

great Idea, I'd love to help out. stealth sounds like fun and I'm sure there'd be tons of ways to achieve wallclimbs.

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Monkey Mja
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The only problem with Free Running and Building to Building jumping games are that it would probally be a bit laggy.

But despite the newbiness (Around two months with TGC, but rather addicted to it) of myself, if you guys are planning to make a Free Runner game, I would defiently want to help out.

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laggy? how so?

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I don't know, wouldn't you want a big city? Wouldn't a big city need lots of entitys, therefore, lag quite a bit?

But that isn't going to stop me. As Long as it's a fairly decent amount of FPS, I'm happy. Anyhow, if anyone actually wants to start/help on a free runner game, I'll be more than happy to contribute as much as possible. I mean from Mirrors Edge freerunner to GTA Freerunner, it sounds like a great idea.

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nothing wrong with big entities so long as they're low poly. maybe the city couldn't be as big or tall as mirror's edge, but perhaps could involve some more realistic low roof traversal, allowing for more open routes.

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Monkey Mja
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Sounds good to me.

I also hope theres a possible script for spring boards or something, and the ninja-fast-paced part of the game is one step closer to being completed.

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Well i could use a stealth script also im making a medival game and i want it so that you can be an assassin if wanted

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I don't think it would be too laggy, but building would be a problem.

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Yeah that stealth script needs to be posted by someone.

@ Nilloc

Medival assasian with stealth? Reminds me of Assasians Creed. Haha.

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Thats kinda what im going for but you have the choice of being a warrior or a mage

[quote]Reminds me of Assasians Creed. Haha.

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I think you could solve the lagging issues with having rooftop levels. Also, you can adjust the jump in the scripts.

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the jump height is fine. it's the collision and the hangtime and the momentum system that needs to be added.

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Quote: "collision and the hangtime and the momentum system that needs to be added."


Not too difficult, you could use variables to control velocity and then detect keypresses to increase them.

Making a game like this wouldn't be too hard and not as laggy as some claim. I'd make one, but I'm lazy


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The backround buildings could easily be made as bilboards, only two pollies nescessary.

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Quote: "And also forget the animations mirror's edge has.
Cause that would probably be impossible in FPSC.
And of course very hard to make if it was possible."


That would be quite easy using Project Blue (or is it now integrated into Fenix?), as a body system was already developed by (I believe) Ply.

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i dont think it would be quite easy, you need a top notch animator.
Or possess the skills to create animations like that.

If you do hire a animator, you will be looking at pretty big prices.

And if the animations are done, you would have to (i guess) script it so it works with every movement.

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