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Geek Culture / wow swen virus is a really rubbish virus

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lagmaster
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Posted: 25th Sep 2003 18:08
well for a laugh i have the virus on my computer now.

boy it's a crappy virus. i've blocked it infecting my computer.

here's the details.

hpqspqw.exe is the filename it throws into your windows folder and then edits your startup reg settings like this:

kcvpcydeo = hpqspqw.exe

somehow i loaded it up as patch139.exe thinking it was a patch some something else. i was wrong.

to remove is simple. ad watch blocked the file located in the windows dir to be loaded at startup. so all i did was delete the file in windows and terminated the patch139.exe by windows task manager and deleted it.

so it proves that you dont need virus protection all the time

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Van B
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Posted: 25th Sep 2003 19:15
If you know what your doing, using simple rules, you don't need any virus protection at all - I have none, yet I've never lost anything to a virus. Just make sure the offending app is not running, delete it's file, delete it's registry entries - and that's it.

It makes you wonder what all the fuss is about. I reckon the media likes to blow them out of proportion, like the millenium bugs that would end the world. I've written sneakier software in VB than a lot of viruses - like my windows front end, it's a menu type thing so the monkeys that work in the wafer fab at work can use the computer without a bib. Anyhoo, it's not visible in the task bar, it can hide itself away then leap into action when it has to, and if you do manage to stop it running, or if it crashes - it just loads itself back up again . It's the result of a long battle with one of the engineers, I'd do something, then he'd try and break it - wen't on like this until he admitted defeat .

I reckon the most pathetic virus was that one the affected MSN messenger, it could'nt really replicate itself, so it would pretend to be some silly game through messenger, that you had to click and download then run to get infected .


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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 25th Sep 2003 19:27
I have lost whole HDs to viruses. One blighter get into the disk defrag software and made it so it looked like defrad but was deleting everything. Change in a million of having the virus and the software but still a kick up the ass.

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TKF15H
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Posted: 25th Sep 2003 23:22
Quote: "Just make sure the offending app is not running, delete it's file, delete it's registry entries - and that's it."

No, that's not it.

"Just make sure the offending app is not running"
Often, the virus will hide itself from the taskbar. Depending on the method used, there is NO way to find out if the virus is really running. Even on XP.

"delete it's file"
How do you know what file is its file? What if there is more than one file? What if its a system file?

"delete it's registry entries"
What if the virus searches the registry for a program that runs on startup and infects it? No registry entry and it still starts up with your PC.

Sometimes you'll be surprised how many viruses you might have.

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lagmaster
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Posted: 25th Sep 2003 23:42
if the author read the help files more, there's options to completly hide programs from the task manager

the virus that seem to coming out, seems to be similar in the way they work. so stopping them is easy.

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TKF15H
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 02:15
Quote: "if the author read the help files more, there's options to completly hide programs from the task manager "


what help files? we're not talking about DB viruses here
No two viruses are similar. It's not that easy stopping them.

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Ian T
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 03:20
If you have any decent kind of task manager, it will list ALL processes running, far better than the Task Manager does. And terminate them instantly. Yet another reason to use Spybot: S&D.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 05:34
What if the virus disguises itself as a system file?

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Ian T
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 05:49
What system file? There are only a select number of tasks you need operational, period, and they launch before any viruses (excepting a very few extremely nasty ones that aren't spreading around anymore) can.

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TKF15H
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 06:03
explorer? Rundll32?
I think we're confusing viruses and worms here...

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Van B
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 15:46
Well, seeing as how I deal with these things on an everyday basis, and I've been dealing with viruses since the early nineties, I reckon I should know howto get rid of them. You seem to over estimate the power of viruses - which is exactly why so many people get infected and stay infected. I'll go home tonight and run a virus scan and find 0 viruses on my PC because I simply know how to avoid infection in the first place, and if I did find a virus it would'nt last more than 5 minutes.

Virus writers are incredibly lazy these days, and it's much more difficult to infect a .dll with a worm than an antiquated dos exe like the old days. The internet has caused a major surge in the number of cruddy viruses that do very little, 6 years ago a virus would wipe your boot sector as soon as look at you, nowadays they like to change our home pages and try and make a name for themselves - hardly a major threat to anyone with the experience to deal with them.

Please refrain from teaching your grandma to suck eggs.


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TKF15H
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Posted: 26th Sep 2003 17:37
It's true that viruses today are nothing compared to the old DOS ones.
But the DOS viruses wouldn't wipe out your boot sector. There isn't much of a point in erasing a boot sector. Maby on certain days it'll format your HD but not before being on your PC for a while.

Still, if someone wanted to make a decent virus today, it would be just as hard (if not harder) getting rid of it (without a scanner).

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