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BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 09:23
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I downloaded the Music Maker 4 demo and had the same respone you did. If I'm thinking right you want the pretty/emotional pieces from Final Fantasy that use things like synthesized orchestras. So the best programs for that are Sibelius and Finale. Sibelius is meant to do more things with less effort, while Finale is more professional grade (and costs more). They work like you're writing down a score on paper, so if you can notate music (quarter notes, treble clef, do these sound familiar?)and want more control than just a dj studio type thing then these are the best.

Sibelius: [href]www.sibelius.com[/href]
Finale: [href]www.finalemusic.com[/href]

hope you find what you're looking for,
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 10:29
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I recomend Dance Ejay 3...

Ill post some examples later

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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 11:48 Edited at: 20th Oct 2003 11:49
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Quote: "I recomend Dance Ejay 3..."


OH god.. the loops....and the 11hz sampling...

Orchastral music ehhh...

I use GigaStudio 128 for orchestral music.. but be warned.. you need a somewhat fast Processer, and somewhat expensve monitors (speakers as most people would think of them) to run effeciently. You also need a F*ckload of money for the gigasamples (whatever number your thinking right now..add atleast 200, if not more) and a good sound card. Plus you need a controller of somesort so you can play the sh*t.

As for Nobou Uematsu composing... i doubt you have the studio to do that. Hell i've seen a few pics of his studio... then i took a look at mine...and it f*ckin blew me away (and ask the few people who have seen my studio, Aaron and a few others on the forums... it ain't a cheapo job).

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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 14:37 Edited at: 20th Oct 2003 14:42
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Here is a sample i whipped up in Dance eJay 3...

- FF Style

It's not the best, i agree.. but, still, it's good if your a beginner and it allows you to create some pretty gnarly (cool) effects..

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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 15:02
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Hi there everone.
I thought this post would never be brought up again.
thanks for the website's i will have a look later.
Thanks

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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 19:01 Edited at: 20th Oct 2003 19:04
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Cant beat Dance 4 (maybe 5, but thats buggy).

Useless Fact #1 : Sibelius was originally for the Acorn Archimedies - very powerful piece of software (and rather expensive). Unfortunately their latest version isn't availiable for the Archimedies...


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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 20:41
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LOL I've used sidelius on an acorn

I have ejay 3 somewher, let me dig it out and have a try (didn't realise you oculd create such soft pieces!)

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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 22:40 Edited at: 20th Oct 2003 22:42
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well, if he were to use Finale, then he'd need a nice software sampler or a synthesizer to sequence anything out besides midi. The only sampler I can recomend for the music he is wanting to do is GigaStudio 160( http://www.nemesysmusic.com ) as it is the fastest and most reliable sampler on the market. I could also recomend Native Instruments' Kontakt, but it's nowhere near as reliable as Giga is.


here are the Gigasample libraries that I recomend(and that I use):


http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=SAM001BUNDLE

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=SAM002

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=EW-110

http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?320

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=EW-104

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=BS-192

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=QLRIGIG

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=TT100



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Eric T
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 22:43
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Hey Aaron... You have that Choir of the apocalypse(not sure the name) yet..??

Oh and i recomend Sam Trombones.... its just so crisp...

P.S. I am a finale user... for writing the music

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Animal crackers in my soup, monkeys an' rabbits, loop ey loop...

I love that song. Can someone make a techno remix of it for me...

JK, I just want to say that Fruity Loops is your best choice if your begining. Its neet, but you need a good sound card...

Or you could just change Aarons work slightly and call it your own...

Tee hee....

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Quote: "Hey Aaron... You have that Choir of the apocalypse(not sure the name) yet..??"


Voices of the Apocalypse? no but i will have it soon, as i almost have enough extra $$ saved for it I'm also looking foward to getting Symphony of Voices and Sonic Implants Symphonic Strings

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Hey grim- sounds online lol like you dont need to pay for the sounds, i downloaded them for free lol.
Any hoo... i have got Dance eJay 3, it's ok actually, i think i will make my own sounds from my guiter and put them together.

Thanks everyone

Andrew

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Posted: 21st Oct 2003 12:29 Edited at: 21st Oct 2003 12:30
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see?

11Hz Sampling is good for some...

And eJay is relatively cheap.

Ive never used Any eJay product other than eJay SE (includes Dance 1, Hip Hop 1, Rave 1), Dane eJay 3, Dance eJay 4 Demo.

Oh, and i think some of those sounds may have been some of the [url=http://]*Free*[/url] samples that are available on the eJay website...


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Posted: 21st Oct 2003 20:32
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do you know you said Dance eJay 3, is Dance eJay 6 even better than the 3rd?

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Posted: 21st Oct 2003 20:48
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Also with dance ejay 6 - can i make emotional sounds? for my game?
Like final fantasy? well sort of?

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Yeah i think i'll be buying a few "Symphonic" sets in the next few weeks, but i need to save just a few more bucks so i have somthing to lean on just incase i need it. (4000$ is alot...)

If my next Paycheck is hefty sum, i may get "Voices of the Apocolypse", but i doubt i will have the money .

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Quote: "Hey grim- sounds online lol like you dont need to pay for the sounds, i downloaded them for free lol."


sorry man, I got no respect for that. Unless you dont plan on using them publicly, I dont mind if someone does that. Otherwize you are stealing, which I have absolutely no respect for at all. Sorry.

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2003 00:16 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2003 00:19
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EJay 6 looks quite good. Dont get Ejay 5 - it is very bugged; get 3 or 4 (or perhaps 6 if you want to wait).

Even if the sampling is low, they are still very good qualtity.


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Hmm, didn't know that 6 was coming... Didn't they only just release 5?

Oh wel...


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6 is probably out to solve all the problems in 5...


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LoL, yeah...


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ok thanks you ill get dance ej 3

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