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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Ideal Computer for FPSC?

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Cross Hair Games
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2011 23:51
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I'm getting a new desktop computer, and I was wondering what would the ideal or above ideal computer, and all the technical stuff for it (don't know how to word it) and if anybody know what Errant AI and people like that use.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2011 00:53
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How much are you willing to spend?

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Cross Hair Games
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2011 06:33
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500$ -1000$ for a laptop, I have no room or a tower compu. An my Mac doesn't have enough room on Parrelels

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2011 06:50 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2011 07:13
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A laptop then? Stay away from your local electronics retailer, as they probably only carry crappy machines with intergrated graphics.

This is the same laptop I use: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5250511&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE


INCREDIBLE graphics power, not just for a laptop, but incredible graphics power, period. And for WAY under $1000, that is just insane for a laptop. Goes to show you don't need to spend crazy money on a high-end machine to get good gaming performance. You just need to know what to look for.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2011 07:27 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2011 07:28
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Quote: "INCREDIBLE graphics power, not just for a laptop, but incredible graphics power, period. And for WAY under $1000, that is just insane for a laptop. Goes to show you don't need to spend crazy money on a high-end machine to get good gaming performance. You just need to know what to look for."

Ah! Thank you so much! I've been searching for a good refurbished Asus! My brother, who used to build gaming computers for his friends, said I should get a refurbished Asus, and then you show me this, it's a sign! Haha
Thanks slot Bond1 I'm going to aim for this one, I'll have enough by the end of February now I'm excited!
I'm gonna except all the Reffong games assigned to me so I can get thy babe sooner

Edit: sorry for late response

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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 02:02 Edited at: 4th Jan 2011 02:03
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Just a tip, laptops horriable idea for a gaming machine. Gaming machines need to be upgradable. Laptops only offer you the ability to up memory and harddrive. You need to be able to up your video card as well. I recomend you build your own. Tiger direct, geeks.com, newegg.com etc. all good sites for buying parts at reduced price.

When considering memory, I recomend DD2 over DDR3. One reason. PRICE. DD2 extremely cheap compared to DDR3. However, that because DDR3 is top of the line. DDR3 will offer slightly better results compared to DDR2 but DDR2 is very compareable and much cheaper. Also consider a I5 or I7. Intel did a great job finaly with the Icore processors. I honeslty am a die hard AMD fan but I do like the Icore processors by Intel.

Next thing to consider is powersupply. Dont cheap out on a powersupply. Get a good one with at least 600 or higher. I recomend around 800 for good gaming.

Video card is critical. Expect to pay around 120 or more for something decent. Nvidea is my fav brand. I dont like ATI eventhough thats what I use currently. Nvidea's just seem to last longer and run smoother. But thats debateable.

Finaly your motherboard. Don't cheap out there ethier. A good board should offer at lest two PCI-E slots for crossbridging. Ive herd you can get upto 4. But thats just insane if u ask me. On the board also make sure it supports SATA. IDE hard drive tech. is almost dead. So you want to building something that will be able to stay with current market of hardware. Right now IDE is cheaper but at some point soon it will be gone and become hard to find an more expensive.

Hope this information helps. Also consider lots of RAM for gamming. You can never have enough RAM for a gaming machine. If it can hold 16 gigs and you got the cash, get it.
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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 02:19
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@old_school

Just my thoughts but if Bond1 recommends it then I wouldn't question it.

But, other than that, your suggestions are good.

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Typicaly I agree with Bond but that machines pretty old by todays standards. Plus its a notebook Ewww. Sorry bond but notebooks not a good choice. The only laptop id use for gaming (which would never happen) would be alienware or a XPS and I hate dell with a passion so XPS would be a no as well. Then again computers our a very debateable topic when it comes to build etc.

Laptops our great for portability and traveling. They can be ok for gaming but that only will last about 2 years at most. Most of the time, two years pass. Games our released that will force a user to purchase a new GFX card. Which a laptop just can not allow that period. Due to obivious reasons. But if you want a simple machine to use for programming etc. Oh yeah there great. Just don't expect the laptop to last longer then 3 years before it starts to fall apart. Well unless you take extremely good care of it. Sorry I personaly think laptops our junk and built poorly.

Only advantage i see to a laptop is portability. But if you buy a aluminm (however it spelled) case with a built in handle. Simular to what I currently use. The desktop is just as postable almost. An very light weight, great for LAN parties. But every hardware device has its advantages and disadvantages.

FYI the one bond showed you though with 4 gigs. Thats full maxed on RAM. So dont plan on a upgrade if u get it. It has two slots. DDR2 you can get 2 2gig sticks in there max. An its allready maxed out. An 4 gigs by todays standard is about average. Think where that average will be in another two years. Thus why I think Bond's computer suggested is a bad idea. True when Bond purchased it over a year ago, it was a great buy. Now its just a average machine. I buy machines that our above average, so in a few years Im not behind.

My desktop little over 2 years old now. I only need to buy more memory now. A laptop, pretty much pitch it in a few years. Not very upgradeable. Sorry Bond,Pro's and Con's of laptops. Thought he should know before he purchases. Got to think ahead when buying a PC.
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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 04:49 Edited at: 4th Jan 2011 04:50
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Quote: "Typicaly I agree with Bond but that machines pretty old by todays standards"


He said his budget was $500-1000, and that he needed needed a laptop, no room for a desktop. I found him one for $647. It's last year's model that originally retailed for $1400. It runs FPSC with full shader effects with flying colors - I have the same model except with Windows 7.

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Ohh sorry Bond I missed that part my bad. But if he can spend up to 1k, Id get something with Win 7 and a little more memory at lest. 4 gigs not really alot if your doing art and modeling work. Photoshop eats memory up like no tommarow.
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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 05:26
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Thank for all your help guys!
I would go with a desktop with the specs you recommended... If I had the space and money.
I already have Windows 7 install disc so that's no problem.
I wouldn't be using the laptop for any gaming except FPSC and FPSC made games. Maybe left for dead 2 or 1.
Now I also travel with my family ALLOT, when the snow melts my family goes to our cabin every weekend and in the summer, spend 2-3 weeks up their, go home for a day and then go back for the same period of time. And every school break and holiday (expt this Christmas, we had it at our place) we fly summer for that period of time.
That being said, I'm going to have to go with the laptop bond has, because of portability, time, and cost.
Thanks guys! And the reason I posts this a month in advance of when I get it is so I can think about it until I get it

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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 07:30
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I'll also add that I DO game on this laptop as well from time to time. It runs Left 4 Dead 2, Resident Evil 5, and Lost Planet 2 just fine. It's by no means old or outdated. A GTX 260 in a laptop is like strapping a jet engine onto a Honda Accord.

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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 07:37 Edited at: 4th Jan 2011 07:52
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Quote: "4 gigs not really alot if your doing art and modeling work. Photoshop eats memory up like no tommarow."


Is this from experience? You are really starting to rub people the wrong way. I ran photoshop just fine on Vista with a measley 2gigs of ram three and a half years ago when I created the characters for FPSC X10. And I did a good chunk of work for the Viral Outbreak pack on this laptop, without a hiccup. 4 gigs is plenty.

He is not going to have any problem with this laptop and the price is a steal. You could even buy an OEM license of Windows 7 for $99, and still make out like a bandit. You won't find anything comparable for $1000, let alone for $650.

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Posted: 4th Jan 2011 08:16
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Hey bond I sent you an email yesterday

Also, I'm getting the feeling things are starting to tense up on this thread...
I'm going to go with the laptop bond said, and then install windows 7 as I already own it.
Thanks guys.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2011 02:24 Edited at: 11th Jan 2011 02:25
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Hey guys, sorry for the bumb.
Bond1
what do you think of this laptop? in specs, its better.
Windows 7
7200 RPM hard Drive
2.13GHz Procceser Speed
and others. its $30 cheapper too
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5753605&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=10&body=REVIEWS#tabs

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Quote: "Ohh sorry Bond I missed that part my bad. But if he can spend up to 1k, Id get something with Win 7 and a little more memory at lest. 4 gigs not really alot if your doing art and modeling work. Photoshop eats memory up like no tommarow. "


Are you kidding? Seriously? 4gb is PLENTY for ANYONE. People who put over 4gb in their PC's are out of their mind. I run Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Garry's Mod, and Visual Studio .NET on 4gb of RAM, barely half of it gets used up. I used to have 1.25 GB, and I did NEARLY all of that. 4gb is enough for a logical person.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2011 03:51
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yea thats what my bro said.do you think the one i posted in the link is slightly better than bond1's?

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I use a HP pavilon dv7 fpsc and other games works realy well on it

Srry about my english im from sweeden
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That laptop is pretty good,the CPU is a bit weak but it should handle everything. And 4gb is MORE THAN ENOUGH for some indie game development and stuff,I had too little when I had 2gb but now I have 4gb of RAM and my machine works well.


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Quote: "That laptop is pretty good"

which one? the one in my link, or the one The Zoq2 said

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How about a HECToR???



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Oh I wish!

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