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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] why does TGC take so long to aprove a purchase?

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Nazareth Entertainment
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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:11
Im so gutted at the moment, i orderd the new model pack at like 11 am this mornin and no one has aproved it, ten hours later, after being excited to get back home all day long, and my model pack isnt available, its funny how my money goes in a matter of minutes but my media that i have spent my money on takes 2 days to bloody be available, its not acceptable, and even tho i love the game creators, for being the best darn thing since sliced bread, and even tho its value for money, and brilliant, and the thing that gonna make me making a living off what i love to do a reality, i think that this HAS To change, please please please aprove my order!

(I know this is in vein coz no one from TGC reads this lol)

any way, please explain to me why this isnt Automatic, Ive spent my money on quite a few model packs, but i feel let down by the speed of the services in question

sorry for the rant, it had to be said

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:16
I think this is in the wrong board

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:17
Quote: "please explain to me why this isnt Automatic"


AFAIK it's so they can manually verify every order and reduce the amount of CC fraud as a result.

I feel your pain, I live in a different time zone to TGC so I often have to wait for orders to be approved for what seems like an eternity as they are not yet awake.

Also they don't usually work on weekends so if you order late on Friday you won't be getting your order until Monday.

Don't forget TGC isn't a huge company. I know it's a pain to wait, particularly when you are excited about trying out new things, but I think they do a pretty good job.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:22
Quote: "I feel your pain, I live in a different time zone to TGC so I often have to wait for orders to be approved for what seems like an eternity as they are not yet awake."


where are they based? i thought they were based in the uk, so i dint think id have any probs

dont get me wrong i love what they do, and will be always loyal, but i dont like waiting i guess hahah

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:25
Yeah they're based in the UK. I live in Australia.

No one likes waiting My fastest order approval was for the new EAI Task Force. A couple of hours was all it took.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:29
Quote: "No one likes waiting My fastest order approval was for the new EAI Task Force. A couple of hours was all it took.
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thats what i orderd! Man i read through the promo thread like lots just to see peoples response times, and convinced my self to get it, and im waiting, i am real excited about the model pack tbh, looks amazing.

my fastest was the viral outbreak pack in about 18 hours , still that pack kicks ass, im using it for my game, i just want the new model pack so bad for my comercial project

i bet its brilliant

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:39
well, if you order stuff past rush hour how would you expect them to verify it if they are off work? :S :\


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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:44
i thought getting the order in before 11am would be a sure bet for them to aprove it seeing its in the morning

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Posted: 10th Feb 2011 22:50
i bought darkgame studio bonanza a while ago. it was sent on febuarie 1e and i'm still waiting

and i live in the Netherlands

just like Nazareth said. don't get me wrong, i TGC

cheers




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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 01:03
errr, without getting too deep involved in discussion..
There are many many ways automatically and instantly distributing digital products securely can be done.
Why this isn't done here, when there are constant complaints about it.....
When numerous solutions have been suggested..
When numerous times, threads like this have been stifled...
Understandably things like this should be discussed out of public view, until it gets to the point where it just doesn't get resolved..errr and Arrr I Stifle myself now..
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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 01:17
i think that a change can be made without risking security, its just not being implemented

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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 02:09
Quote: "Why this isn't done here, when there are constant complaints about it....."


I think constant is a bit of an overstatement. It is what it is, and a little waiting never hurt anyone

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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 02:49 Edited at: 11th Feb 2011 02:55
Quote: "I think constant is a bit of an overstatement"

Yeah you are right.. I suppose it isn't openly discussed that often.
Quote: "It is what it is"

Customer: Hello, I purchased your products some time ago and was wondering when I would be receiving them. Most companies are able to deliver digital products almost instantly.
Support: We do realize it is the year 2011 and most companies have updated there systems for instant customer gratification, but it is what it is. You will get them when you get them.
The World: *FacePalm*

Thraxas, I have seen you around the forums and respect your contributions, but you have to admit the outdated delivery methods. Just imagine if someone purchased a downloadable game online and had to wait an entire 24 hours before they could play.. holy terror! lol

[and yeah, I just noticed, this is in the wrong thread, it should really be moved to the "TGC Website" boards.
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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 02:53
I'd love to have things instantly available but I don't mind waiting.

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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 02:58
Thraxas, for you to be able to say that these days.. you must be Kin to Gandhi. lol

But with all seriousness, as a digital product vendor, TGC really should look at updating there check out and delivery system.
Other than that, I am extremely happy with TGC in general.
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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 03:36
If a mod wants to move it then thats fine, but this is relating to an fpsc model pack and the deleivery system, so it kind of fits into both i guess.

I think we should do a patition, im sure if TGC can make awsome engines like dbpro and fpsc, they can handle a change from manual to automatic aproval of funds ect.

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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 07:42
Quote: "should do a patition"

The company isn't THAT community driven

Quote: "they can handle a change from manual to automatic aproval of funds"

Like use a third party payment gate way that also handles product distribution.
I actually think talking about this is like beating a dead horse now that I think about it..
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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 09:41
TGC seems to process orders in the mornings M-F. So, if the order was made at 11am it was probably just after the cut-off.

When MP53 was released they went the extra mile on launch day to process orders at frequent intervals. This is now a week later so it's back to the status-quo of what people should expect.

If TGC were to use a 3rd party for processing and delivery I very much doubt this 3rd party would do it out of the kindness of their hearts and it could result in a price hike of TGC products to make up the difference. I think more people would rather wait a day or two rather than pay 10-20% more for products, packs, points, etc.

More than simply a matter of security, I suspect it's also a matter of reducing cost (and increasing accessibility) to the customer. The current system also allows them great flexibility to make bundles, award prize credits and so on.

Just my .02
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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 12:49
you got a point their, and i have your pack now, and let me say: You are god

thanks

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Posted: 11th Feb 2011 15:04
I live in the UK, and I usually have to wait a day or so.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 01:40
Does TGC look at orders made on the weekend before ones that came after Monday 1 am? Cause I'm buying one or two bundles of Model Packs, 9 in total. And was wondering if they would be one of the first priority order approval's if I ordered them on the weekend

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 05:15
I agree with most people when I say, this is a bit irritating. I don't care what size company you have, most forms of payment even with small companies, are automatic. PayPal offers credit card fraud checking, not to mention numerous other payment gateways.

I myself limit myself on how many TGC products I buy, simply because of waiting times. There has been delays up to 3 days before. Ask any eBay seller who has ever dealt with me, if you're going to run a business it needs to be speedy and on time.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 17:38
Manual processing appears archaic and unprofessional especially when done by a company that should be on the leading edge of technology based on the products they produce and sell. Given the small size of TGC, how much employee time is consumed by manual processing that could be used better in product improvement and new product development ?

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Oh dear, Idol worship :S

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 21:49
Seems like we have a few people who just want everything instantly. One of whom doesn't surprise me at all!

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 23:01
Yes, because in today's world, you need to be quick. This isn't the 1990's anymore where it takes 5 weeks to ship or processor orders. No offense to TGC, but if you're going to offer expensive products, at least use automatic payment.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 23:14
Quote: "but if you're going to offer expensive products"


Expensive? Nothing sold here is expensive.

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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 23:37
I agree with Thraxas

Making someone's day a little better because of one of my models means a lot to me.
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Posted: 13th Feb 2011 23:39
How is $50 not expensive? I wish I had your disposable income.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 00:19
Ok, for a teenager, which does make up most of TGC's consumers, 50$ is semi-expensive. I got a job at 13 because I was responsible and I wanted things, such as FPSC. Things costing 50$ became almost nothing to me. For an adult, $50 is almost nothing. With a McDonald's job, a teenager could be making 150$+ every week. Don't wish for it, get it. And this is totally offtopic so sorry. I just don't like laziness. Seriously, if you want to buy things, dont wish for money to fall into your pockets.

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Who here is talking about money falling into pockets? I'm simply saying that for some people who actually PAY bills and simply don't live with their parents rent free, $50 is a substantial amount. I remember when I was a lot younger living with my parents, I was able to afford anything I wanted because I worked a job, but as you get older and you get out on your own, and you're paying bills for student loans and such, you realize that money is a bit tighter.

As for McDonald's, I've got a few friends who work at a local McDonald's, they barely bring in $70 every week. Problem is fast food appeals to younger kids, thus there are a lot more people working there, meaning reduced hours.

Regardless, for the amount of money people spend on TGC products, they simply need to come up with a more efficient system of processing payments.

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Quote: "I got a job at 13 because I was responsible and I wanted things, such as FPSC"

Agreed, when I was twelve, I had two jobs. Because,
A) I liked to save
B) I'm not spoiled
Quote: "I remember when I was a lot younger living with my parents, I was able to afford anything I wanted"

Yes, that is true, but you still had to work for the money, correct? And for a 'Kid' having a job at a young age is a good life skill to teach responsibility and independence.
Quote: "Regardless, for the amount of money people spend on TGC products"

I dont know if your regarding to buying multiple products at once, or to expensive products. If its the products, Buddy, you can buy 117 Character's and 9 Weapons, for 40 DOLLARS.. 2 YEARs of work. Expensive? No. Christmas? Yes.
Service could be a bit faster, but hey, you try running a company like this.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 02:24 Edited at: 15th Feb 2011 22:47


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Posted: 14th Feb 2011 02:40
a simple question which has been answerd has now become a flame war!

but off topic ( my topic) TGC are not expensive, people who say that are dumb, we have media and tools in our hands that put to good use can make things tht can be sold for a pretty penny, and if selling aint your thing then isnt the joy of making a game and sharing with people, worth under a hundred?

some people are too cheap for the econemy, how else will people make a living!

its people like you (who ridicule buissness like TGC for being expensive) that are the cuase of small buisinesses being broke coz you cant put your hands in your pockets for the hard effort and work of such a great company,

such lamoes!

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