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Akira Tsunami
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Im absolutely not yellow,As you can see im akira Tsunami,have been and always will be! sry mate

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huh!? what happened? sounds interesting...

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<Akira> hi all
<Mattman> but The Beatle rule all
<Mattman> *Beatles
<Akira> hi mattman
<Mattman> hi AKIRA
* ShockFire givEs Mattman some cooKies to eat.
<Mattman> yummy
<Akira> i have just orders Fruity loops studio
<Mattman> :yum yum eat 'em up:
<Akira> lol
* ShockFire is now known as ShockFire-[dbProgramming]
* ShockFire is now known as ShockFire-[dbProgramming]
<Mattman> hi yellow
<Mattman> akira - yellow
<Akira> y u say that?
* Mattman Is a detecitve
<Mattman>
<Akira> lol
<Akira> nah,akira is akira Tsunami
<Akira> lol
<Mattman> no
<Mattman> akira is yellow
<Mattman> aka Mike
<Akira> im akira Tsunami aka Daniel
<Mattman> Mike S., that is
<Mattman> no
<Mattman> no
<Akira> project : Shadow Of Terror
<Mattman> yur not
<Akira> yes i am
<Akira> i dont know who yellow is mate
<Mattman> YOU ARE YELLOW THE GUY I HATE!!! GRR
* Mattman was kicked by ChatServ (Turn caps lock OFF!)
* Mattman has joined #darkbasic
<Mattman> grr
<Akira> im akira
<Akira> do not call me yellow plz
<Akira> ok?
<Mattman> yellow is a guy I know
<Mattman> and I hate
<Akira> k,but i am akira,ok?
<Mattman> and he wanted to order Fruity Loops lately
<Mattman> and has a similer IP as yours
<Akira> oh,yeah yellow
<Akira> he told me about it,in a forum thread
<Mattman> a-huh
<Akira> so i ordered it :p
<Mattman> brb
<Akira> ok,its in the DarkBASIC Pro thread,under "How do i make mod music"
<Mattman> http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=17731&b=2
<Akira> let me c if thats the one
<Akira> nope
* Mattman has quit IRC (Quit: Bye bye)

This is what happens,you could have stayed,u could have realized im not YELLOW!!!!!!!!

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wow, you actually kept a record of the conversation...

I'm guessing he knows your not Yellow anyway...

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Posted: 13th Oct 2003 07:23
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Quote: "YOU ARE YELLOW THE GUY I HATE!!!"


lol, dude, that wasn't me. Now you've hurt my feelings.

@Akira_Tsunami

It's just a weird occurance that I also talked on the forum(about a week ago), that I too was ordering Fruity Loops.



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what did you do yellow, to make matman mad at you?



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Quote: "<Mattman> but The Beatle rule all"


:: groans loudly :: best band in the world, my arse makes better music - and it doesn't depress anyone either

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that last 2 bits of your post scares me raven...

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Quote: "my arse makes better music - and it doesn't depress anyone either"

Sit on someone then you'll "depress" them

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Akira Tsunami
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lol,copy that straight from the mirc window :p hope mattman isnt mad at me for posting this(and beatles sukk arse)
>> i did nothing to make Mattman mad....

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Quote: "(and beatles sukk arse)"

Not Raven's I hope

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lol,sukks ne1's arese for that matter

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Quote: "what did you do yellow, to make matman mad at you?"


Good question. I really don't think I've made too many people mad at this forum.

Lol, this is such a weird topic.

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lol ... if paul mcarnty comes anywhere near my arse he'll be pickup up by an ambulance

truely can't stand them, still don't understand what the big deal about them is - all of thier music is soppy or depressing, and the liverpudlian accent really makes me wanna strangle people.
something i always wanted to know is, how come they have like high pitched voices there ... sound like they all too elequetion lessons from the Chipmunks

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Yeah, I hate the Darkness too...

Ohh right, beatles, sorry.

It's like any band that releases an album that sounds a bit different, everybody goes nuts, NME claims it's the best album ever, half the music industry get's on their knees and all because you sound that little bit different. I suppose it was the same thing back then, but when you throw the Beatles into a pot with the crap that was around before them, the Beatles are always gonna shine. I'm no great fan, although I do like a lot of their songs, McCartney is a legend, Lennon I think was a bit of a git, Ringo Starr is the man though - gotta love the Tank Engine .

At the end of the day, ever generation needs to reinvent music for the next decade, the Beatles did it, Nirvana did it, now it's like a stupid race full of 2-bit wannabes. Hehe, I remember what Chris Rock said about Good Charlotte at the MTV awards, ''Good Charlotte?, more like a ''Mediocre GreenDay'' - , tell em Chris!.

Personally I can only listen to bands that sound totally original, which is probably why I have quite a diverse musical taste, I like a lot of bands, but love only 4 or 5 (KoRn, Pearl Jam, Faith No More, The Prodigy, Stone Roses).


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the darkness are oki, they remind me alot of Queen ... not sure why.
personally i like music that has a certain kinda energy about it

don't like sitting there listening to lyrics trying to figure out the meaning and sit there going "ohh thats soo true" ... they could be singing in made up works, but if it sounds good and just feels nice to listen to it'll be something i'll like

evanescene, linkin park & limp biskit alot of thier tracks really do that ... its probably why i love classical so much too.
alot of people i know believe that its pretty boring to listen to, but its music that really is there to capture and emotion or cause one - kinda like Dance/Rave/Techno/DnB music they could sing anything in the background, but in a club its how it makes you feel that makes you wanna get up and jam to it cause they just sound good - doesn't need to be some deep meaning to it

think if your sitting there analysing the music your really listening to it for the wrong reasons, just my opinion really...

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I like a broad range ok music too, and I hate bands that try too hard to copy someone else.

Quote: "Quote: "what did you do yellow, to make matman mad at you?"

Good question. I really don't think I've made too many people mad at this forum.

Lol, this is such a weird topic."


From what I've seen Mattman is a little off the deep end, don't take it personally. Heh, at work a guy I know sometimes calls me Mattman, bugs me a bit but nothing big.


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heh, Noone would know why I am mad at Yellow. And if he like to know why, he can e-mail me about it.

AND THE BEATLE ARE GOOD AND PAUL IS WAY BETTER SOUNDING (and better looking) THEN YOUR ARSE!!!

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Is it cause he "quit your group" or something?

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Right on Andrew11.



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Welcome back, geri. Or not so welcome.

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well, that's mostly it. There's a bit more to it.

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geri didn't post here

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Quote: "well, that's mostly it. There's a bit more to it."


Like what?



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I too don't see what was so "legendary" about the Beatles...Just a bunch of 3 chord music that was always about the same thing. Oh well, the REAL legends aren't appreciated enough(Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, etc.) They are recognized but not nearly as appreciated as they should be, and probably never will be. Its a damn shame.


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Quote: "I too don't see what was so "legendary" about the Beatles...Just a bunch of 3 chord music that was always about the same thing."


Well there's more to that (becoming a legend) than the numbers of chords used in songs (King Krimson isn't that much appreciated, though they were/are really innovative). Besides the Beatles introduced a new sort of "style" (and not only related to music) into the scene. Just listen to "popular music" that was release pre-beatles.


Quote: "Oh well, the REAL legends aren't appreciated enough(Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, etc.) They are recognized but not nearly as appreciated as they should be, and probably never will be. Its a damn shame."

They aren't?

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Quote: "...Just a bunch of 3 chord music "


lmao!!! 3 chords?

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Quote: "They aren't?"


nope, they aren't...sure ppl know who they are, which is why I said they are recognized. But how often do you see a young person or teenager(or even older ppl for that matter) listening to any of their music?...sometimes, but not too often...Now how often do you hear people listening to *shudders* Britney Spears, or *shudders again* Nelly, Creed, etc? a LOT... Just my view.



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Mattman...Yes, 3 Chords. They pretty much invented the 3 chord rock music genre :p

http://www.guitarlagoon.com/1300647.html

just look at that...the beatles are listed in it. lol.

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Quote: "AND THE BEATLE ARE GOOD AND PAUL IS WAY BETTER SOUNDING (and better looking) THEN YOUR ARSE!!!"


thats just your opinion ... side how would you know, you've never seen nor heard my ass. (and your never likely to)
i've been told its very cute

Quote: "Besides the Beatles introduced a new sort of "style" (and not only related to music) into the scene. Just listen to "popular music" that was release pre-beatles"

matter of opinion i guess, its like Elvis in that respects ... sure he helped to create a new generation of music, doesn't mean he wasn't god aweful.
But to say that they actually pioneered anything is stupid, it was more of a case that they were the first actually allowed to play this kind of music publically - Elvis made it so big simply because despite everyone calling his Rock'n'Roll devil music he'd used to play it anyways, got into alot of trouble ... and it was more the high profile that he wouldn't let go and let the system win that really caused his fame.

Whats the most famous thing the Beatles did? Well i can only remember 2 things, first was walking across that stupid zedbra crossing on the album cover and the second was getting totally off thier faces before they saw the queen.
i'd hardly call them a grand influence to follow, sad thing is they kinda set the bar with thier behaviour for how most artists were then treated and acted... it's only really within the past 5years that alot of the bands are finally saying "hey, we don't have to get piss'd, high or bed underaged girls at wild out of control parties just because we're rockstars now."

Bad for mags like NME who wanna write about how badass these people are and how they're off the rails, but good to see that alot more bands are starting to preffer miniral water and an early night

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Quote: "But to say that they actually pioneered anything is stupid, it was more of a case that they were the first actually allowed to play this kind of music publically "


- I have to agree here. Just because they were one of the first bands to get aired with that kinda music, doesn't mean there weren't others before them.


Quote: "Whats the most famous thing the Beatles did? Well i can only remember 2 things, first was walking across that stupid zedbra crossing on the album cover and the second was getting totally off thier faces before they saw the queen."


You forgot one thing..."We're more popular then Jesus!" - John Lennon. of course that was more like Infamous then Famous hahahaha

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i wish my team request was like this thread lol :p

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Quote: "But how often do you see a young person or teenager(or even older ppl for that matter) listening to any of their music?...sometimes, but not too often..."

Why should they? The music is hundreds of years old. (Don't get me wrong I like classical music- to a certain extend). How many people listen to Jazz?

Except for some of the stuff Mozart wrote, classical music was never meant to be "popular" music.


Quote: "Just because they were one of the first bands to get aired with that kinda music, doesn't mean there weren't others before them."

There are always people who did something before. But they didn't get aired. Or published. Or found a king or a lord who would pay them.
Perhaps there were better composers than Beethoven, Liszt or Verdi but they never had a chance because they were born in the wrong place or had the "wrong" parents?

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Quote: "i'd hardly call them a grand influence to follow,"

You as a musician are certainly able to analyse that.

Quote: "it's only really within the past 5years that alot of the bands are finally saying "hey, we don't have to get piss'd, high or bed underaged girls at wild out of control parties just because we're rockstars now." "

Or maybe it's what their managers command them, because they found out they sell more copies this way these days.

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i doubt it empty... people like to see rock stars hitting the rocks and thier unpredictable behaviour.
If you think about it, if the rockstars do it that justifies the fans sitting there getting stones and pissed as a newt - starting fights and such.
Fans like the bad boys more, probably cause it allows them that psonea to take on and act like.

althought the case overseas is that manager control every aspect, and the manufactured bands this again is true ... for rock bands they are sign to labels which basically are just there to publish the music, they decide what they do the direction it takes, how they behave, etc...
If they wanna act like a**holes ::coughcreedcough:: they will, but alot more bands now are toning it down because they getting to be more about the music, and it might also have alot to do with the fact that the market isn't as open and you have to really work to make anything.

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Managers try to control every aspect of every band everywhere in the world. The sad thing is, that they can because most bands that get signed are so young and unexperienced. I know bands that got record deals and the only gigs they had were a couple of school parties.

Quote: "you have to really work to make anything."

As a musician you better pray that your record company has the right strategy to market your cd. These days that's very rare anyway.

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can imagine, especially with all of this piracy stuff ... they can screw thier artists out of more money and claim its dwindling sales from piracy.

Due to the ethics or lack of them within the bigger companies that rule industries i wouldn't doubt this is what is the most major sap of income. Only real hope for decent cash is to make a name, which is hard without being through the pre-processed pop machine

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Quote: "Why should they? The music is hundreds of years old. (Don't get me wrong I like classical music- to a certain extend). How many people listen to Jazz? "


ok, point taken, but i guess i should say, how often do you see some kid that DOES listen to it get made fun of for it?

its like:
"you listen to classical? HAHA you geek!"

but my point is, they dont get the respect they deserve, at least from most of todays audience...Maybe me talking about how much ppl listen to them wasn't the best reference, I guess I should have said, how much are they respected by todays audience?

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Quote: "How many people listen to Jazz?
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I like the occasional Jazz, but mostly Dance, Techno, Jungle, etc.


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Quote: "but my point is, they dont get the respect they deserve, at least from most of todays audience...Maybe me talking about how much ppl listen to them wasn't the best reference, I guess I should have said, how much are they respected by todays audience?"


Yes, I see what you mean. On the other hand, I guess it depends very much on the region/country how respected or accepted classical music is.

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Well yea thats a good point

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"you have to really work to make anything" lmao not exactly the case, u just need to churn out sum popish trash or jump on the nu-metal or "fake-goth" band wagon , (LOL!) and your almost guaranteed some success if marketed in the right way. There are bands out there that work there asses off and are never gona get any recognition (or only fairly limited) just because they play what they want to and do their own thing and dont follow stupid trends. I mean what is with todays crap? All the rubbish bands that arent inovative or even good just follow a strategy and wahoo theyre sorted. I wish the mass-market wasnt so fickle. Ah well, I'll always be able to listen to what i want, i just wish everyone else could have the wool pulled from over their eyes and see it too. Anyways rant over, im off to listen to some "Blazing Squad" LMFAO



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anyone ever noticed how the adverage person claims they hate Classical yet at the same time they'll admit they listen to and like the Star Wars sound tracks?

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lmao, yer. i cant see how ppl can condemn a certain genre of music completely. they all have there own merits. altho i must say i dislike pop music, but sayin that it isnt really a true genre but more just a selection of the popular songs from the different genres. man i think i said genre too many times, also not quite sure why i basically defined what pop music is.... anyways...



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Posted: 15th Oct 2003 04:38 Edited at: 15th Oct 2003 04:43
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most people concieve Classical Music and Orchestral Film Music to be 2 different things. Well, some scores, such as the Star Wars score, do have a strong classical influence on them. However a lot of them are very innovative uses of the orchestra and don't really have much classical influence to them, such as Don Davis' score of The Matrix or any one of Danny Elfman's scores(well, Elfman has a lot of classical influence but his scores are very innovative). I dont think that the score to a film needs to have a classical influence to be good(The Matrix has one of the best scores ever made)...but yea, if someone said they hate classical yet they like John Williams' Score of Star Wars then they obviously have the wrong perception of what classical music really is.


Aaron

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