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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / MY number one complaint with dark basic pro

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 1st May 2011 21:50
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You know when you want to undo something?? you go to edit, then you click undo right?

well, they placed the save all button right under the edit button,what this means is some times if I have to undo ten times or alot some times the menu for edit will not load all the way then i end up hitting save all.WHY OHHH WHY PLACE IT THERE? Please move it somewhere else.

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Jimmy
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Posted: 1st May 2011 22:39 Edited at: 1st May 2011 22:43
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1. Which IDE are you using?

2. Ctrl-Z

Also, I really don't understand what your complaint is, because can't you still Undo after saving?


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Posted: 1st May 2011 23:31
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I AM VERY HAPPY that this is the most critical aspect of DBP for you.

-In.Dev.X: A unique heavy story based shoot'em ~12%
-CoreFleet: An underground commander unit based RTS ~15%
-TailsVSEggman: An Sonic themed RTS under development for idea presentation to Sega ~15%
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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 1st May 2011 23:45
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Quote: "Also, I really don't understand what your complaint is, because can't you still Undo after saving?"


Not if I did not see myself hit save all,, becouse im hitting the undo real fast, then next time i open my program its all messed up.

Quote: "I AM VERY HAPPY that this is the most critical aspect of DBP for you."


right,right

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Jimmy
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Posted: 1st May 2011 23:53
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Quote: "Not if I did not see myself hit save all,, becouse im hitting the undo real fast, then next time i open my program its all messed up."


Don't you save before you close it?


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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 1st May 2011 23:56
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Not always, when I am just trying something new out just for fun in my game, but then I dont like it or it does not work right, I then just close it with out saving. Either way From now on I have to make shure I save it becouse of this problem, I just wish they would move that command so I dont mees up agien.

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Jimmy
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 00:05
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Well, I'm going to refer back to my previous advice and suggest that you try using Ctrl-Z, instead of clickin all the way up on the menu bar, just to see if you like it


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Posted: 2nd May 2011 00:38
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Shortcut Keys all the way, it will speed up your coding (and other programs) immensely. You'll find yourself at least twice as efficient very quickly, if not more. Think how much time it takes to move your hand to a mouse, then move it, click, move, click....

CTRL-Z - Undo
CTRL-Y - Redo
CTRL-S - Save

I work with source code and IT systems for a living, my mouse doesn't get much of a look-in. It drives onlookers crazy because the screen appears to have a life of it's own, but the general comment is "How did you do that so damned fast!?!?!"

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Phaelax
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 00:43
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Mouse? Who uses a mouses? Although I dislike the lack of shortcuts in the default IDE.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 01:21 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 01:22
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I just have never learned the shoort cuts, Not shure why, I guess i need to start remembering shoort cuts.I do also have a memory problem with things such as little things like short cuts due to a bad accident I had years ago.But If I try hard for awhile I should be able to start to remeber them. After 5 years you think I would have already tryed,lol.

this would be eaiser to remember

CTRL-u - Undo
CTRL-r - Redo
CTRL-S - Save

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Phaelax
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 02:07
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well the save one is correct for most apps, but dbp ide only has CTRL+SHIFT+S for save all.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 03:19
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Does this mean you're not aware of ctrl + x, c and v? (Cut, copy and paste). They are right next to Undo on the keyb, and I can't imagine coding without them.

ctrl+f is also one I couldn't live without.

In fact, after reading this thread I just fired up my DBP editor of choice and looked at the menu's. I'm aware that I am not very familiar with any of them apart from the File menu (New project, New Source, Save all and quit! ) and the Help menu (from where I check what version of DBP is installed)

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 03:50 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 03:53
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ctrl+f ????

edit: never mind, I just tryed it, I use that more then most but not the short cut.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 03:52
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The command, in most editors, to find stuff.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 04:56 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 04:58
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They are control z-x-c-v
because its only the LEFT side of the keyboard.

and before you ask that is a big deal.
Otherwise you have to have hands the size of king kong.
and it isnt ideal to use 2 hands for a 1 hand job.

Things such as print and redo are on the other side because they arnt used often.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 05:31
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Quote: "They are control z-x-c-v
because its only the LEFT side of the keyboard."


I understand this and well, for people like me there should be a work around to this to help me remember, yea shure we all can say it should only be this way but really in any editor there are other options, in some I have worked with they have an editor so you can change the short cuts to what you want.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 05:33
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There's really nothing in Windows that can not be done with just a keyboard.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 08:13
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Quote: "There's really nothing in Windows that can not be done with just a keyboard."


Im shure your right as the mouse is just for games and clicking on links on the net.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 08:24
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Quote: "There's really nothing in Windows that can not be done with just a keyboard."

just a bit OT, but you wouldn't happen to know of a keyboard shortcut (i.e. very low number of key combinations - hopefully only single) for muting and un-muting the volume would you?

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 08:26
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Yea, hit the mute button on your keyboard. (I have audio controls on mine)

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 08:35
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yeah, too bad mine doesn't have such nifty buttons; it's just a plain one with function keys and a numpad

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 09:03 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 09:04
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You could also add it to the toolbar. At the end of the toolbar is a down arrow. Click it and it brings up "Add or Remove Buttons", click again and select "Customize". On the left side click "Edit" and on the right side drag "Undo" onto the toolbar where you want your new Undo button to be. Put it at the very end far, far away from save if you wish (see attached image).

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 17:08
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@Grog Grueslayer

Im not using code surge, but I just might now now I know I can do this,thanks.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 17:20
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Daniel, if you have a bad memory, simply write the shortcuts down on a slip of paper and place it on the top of your keyboard. Use as a guide and eventually it will stick

http://s6.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=103081
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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 17:22
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@DVader

Good idea, thanks for the tip, never thought of that,Mabey my kids will not tear it up when Im done making it.

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Grog Grueslayer
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@ Daniel wright 2311:

If you're ok with using alternative IDEs then go with Indigo made by Balid. It's the IDE of choice for many of us (including me). It starts with Undo and Redo on the toolbar (see attached image).

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=176316&b=5

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 2nd May 2011 18:17
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@Grog Grueslayer

Well I just tryed it out with my code and first it told me there was problems with it, but there is no problems with it.Then I crashed on me. well, thanks for the sugestion any how.

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Posted: 2nd May 2011 18:22 Edited at: 2nd May 2011 18:23
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BlueIDE also has Undo/Redo on the toolbar. BlueIDE is the daddy of Indigo and is extremely stable (technically Balid is the daddy though). Don't give up hope... there's one out there for you.

http://blueide.sourceforge.net/

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