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Alaror
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Hey everyone!

I wanted to run a game idea past this forum to see if Darkbasic Pro is what I should use to create the game. My main concern lies with how many objects would need to be loaded at one time.

The game I'd like to create would be 2d with a platform style view, taking inspiration from Terraria but diverging heavily from what they're doing. At the start of the game a massive, procedurally generated world would be created--each map being different from another--comprised of small blocks which can be removed, picked up and placed elsewhere.

Would something like this be possible to create and run at decent speeds? What methods would be used to reduce the strain all those objects could place on the computer (eg, chunk/region based loading)?

Thanks in advance for your help
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baxslash
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Posted: 9th May 2011 19:15
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Yes it's possible.

There are quite a few things that could be done to avoid any kind of real strain for large worlds. If you generate from a 'random' seed you can create huge levels but only display the parts that are visible on screen.

Blocks that are moved can be flagged using UDT(User Defined Type) based arrays making it quick and easy to tell when a block no longer exists in its spawn point and whether a block exists that wasn't there originally.

It really isn't worth going into much more detail than that right now. I would do some tutorials and learn some 2D stuff and continue thinking about your game as you learn.

Good luck!

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BatVink
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What do you mean by lots of objects?

True 2D would be 2 polys per block. You could easily have a couple of thousand blocks on the screen, before you start worrying about reloading.

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Quel
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You shouldn't load in all the millions of objects of the whole level, just the ones enough for one screen. Then place them to their new locations according to visibility.

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Alaror
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Thanks for the replies everyone!

I've been going over some tutorials the past few days and will continue to until I have at least a basic level of comfort using DarkBasic.

One thing that came to mind is the best way to store the world data. Would a 3 dimensional array be ideal, giving each object type a number so it can be loaded? Would it be better to save all the world data on one huge file or break it up into several smaller ones?
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blue fire games
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im no professional here so dont completely trust what i say but you could do it the way you said and i dont know a better method so go for it also tell us when your game is done i look foward to playing it also i wanna know what special aspect do you have minecraft is brilliant for building terraria is better for exploration so what special aspect will you add so you dont have 4 million people at your door step saying you copyed minecraft and terraria me i will support you but just wanted to know
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BatVink
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Blue fire games, I suggest you use punctuation in your posts, I'm getting a headache!

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Grog Grueslayer
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Wow, and I thought I was bad with run-on sentences.


@ Alaror:

You should check out TDKs Tutorials and pay particular interest in the one about arrays.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=99497&b=10

When you're confident in working with arrays check out this one about UDTs (User Defined Types) by Zotoaster:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=110324&b=7

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Alaror
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@blue fire games

Without going into too much detail the main thing I want to do is bring a real "survival" feel to the game. Think Alien Breed + Terraria. Once there's at least a partially working game I'll probably post a WIP topic.


@Grog Grueslayer

Awesome, thanks for the info! I'll be giving them a read through for sure.
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