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dartnub
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Posted: 25th May 2011 16:22
i am new to the forum so any one willing to put resources together to create an rts game as well as create coding if that is your expertise please reply to this post we can work rogether on this later all wow agk
Tom0001
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Posted: 25th May 2011 18:23
...So basically you want somebody who will find all of the resources for you...and write all of the coding for you...and basically make your game for you?

And what exactly do we get out of it? Because to me it looks like what you get out of it is an easy ride and trying to stake some type of claim to somebody else's hard work while you did absolutely nothing.

Actually contribute something of your own to the project and put some work into it from the start and make a WIP to show us, or give it up buddy and scuttle away.
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Posted: 25th May 2011 20:40
There you go again. Many of us have told you to start showing some code before we'd even begin to think about helping you. If you're not willing to do some work yourself then you should probably look up game making software that does not involve code.

Just forget about making your ultimate RTS and make something easier like a box that follows the mouse coordinates.

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Posted: 26th May 2011 14:42
You should probably have a look at this:
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Posted: 26th May 2011 20:07
Your first post about this in DBP board didn't get enough responses? And again, why do you keep saying 'wow agk' in all your posts?

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Huh? Dude... at least start planning/desgning... Like will it be a modern war strategy game? medieval? in outer space? What are the factions? Unit designs? Are there specific characters, like commanders? What is the story, for the campaign I assume it will include?

What did you expect... you post this then a week later someone replies with a completed game, and gives you like %50 of the sales?
DB is for creating games you have dreamed about creating, not getting someone else to do it and calling it a "team project"!!!

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Posted: 12th Jun 2011 14:46
I'm up to my 3rd year of learning & using DarkBASIC Pro, hobby programming on and off throughout the years. Only now am I finally programming my first RTS attempt!

Good luck!

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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 03:27 Edited at: 13th Jun 2011 03:27
here, open up DarkBASIC Pro, type in: RTS CREATE( 10 , 1 )
the first number is the amount of players and the second is to start it..

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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 04:29
hey ever read abppk and discussed it with some one you know for analitically nourishing purposes i mean yes you are going to make the othere guy do all the work after making all the plans togeter but that is just the way it is so what do you say should we discuss and come up with a game plan for this video game thing or no hey what are the forums for any way i know we can do what i just said or better yet miss the pint exactly so wann game genie an emulator O_0
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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 04:52
umm it is code for get a grip and ligten up we can speak bout stuff hook up on yahoo or messenger if forum posts inadiquate and we LEARN STUFF TOGETHER that three years learning curve could have been cut down to a year na half it wha the forum for so crawl back into your godly tataurus relm and speak to ypur horrors if you forgot what it is like to learn or even and i shudder a this teach some one you realise that is what you are sayin right i cant teach you if i am for some reasone unable to which you can say clearly so just say so do not turn away the willing guys and gals out there you have forgotten at a point in time you where a nub or noob to be precicse about the term so quit that groupie status thing you got going there and make the forum what it supposed to be a good place for hoobiest and pros to to intertwine also the hobbiest factor should speak for it self hobbiest do not often go to degrre course they do this in spear time so you know qit the groipie culture and give it a whirl despite that some are tedious and in some cases many are in need later people hey phaelax had a great rts web up so that is great STOP GROUPIE-ISM help a noob today
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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 08:29
wow agk x box wow yehhh
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is db pro x box compatible on the fly agk is right well that is what i herd , read , sort of , well it is and that is cool , less coding and a good chance at the console market god bless and may jesus christ of nazareth bless us to make christian freindly video games , how bout that gta 4 and dead space hahahahahaha oh made a joke there da dum dum ching hahahaha oh yeh , well to more christian freindly game hey phaelax think you can bring that up comming from a regular such as your self people will take it more seriously , later all
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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 10:59
Yeah, we're totally willing to make the game for you now after that quadruple post. Just start telling us what you'd like to see in the game... you don't have to do anything at all but order us around. What would you like us lowly programmers to call you?... Team Leader?, President?, Master?, The Great And Powerful Dartnub?, or Overlord Extreme? Feel free to choose your own title as I am not worthy to be in your presence let alone dictate what you want us to call you.

If you don't mind me asking and please don't take offence since I am speaking to you in English but what language do you normally speak? I'd like to honor you better with your native tongue rather than this very confusing language. English is my native language but I always find it hard to string words together to make sense. Obviously you're far better at speaking English than I am but I hope that doesn't discourage you from putting the absolute best team together. We really need to know the language you prefer so there isn't any miss-communication from language barriers. I will strive to talk better so that you get exactly the game you want without any problems whatsoever.

Thank you oh Supreme Being and I look forward to doing your code bidding without any breaks, sleep, food, or water. I will program 24/7 for you till your ultimate RTS is complete and of course I want to do this all for free because you deserve it.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2011 15:23
all that to say your pompus and self serving and care nothing for people trying to learn stuff on the forum you should learn better english they say it can be that efficient , any way while you discuss the next world war with the fates in ares company in tartarus if anybody is willing in this the newcommers section , where you are new and probably have to get aquainted with stuff you know unlike the pluto himself gimme an email buzz and we can colabarate and do this i admit i am in the learning process but this is the new commers section excuse lord pluto can you tell where your groupie section is i am so into your in adequate usage of english to beat down noobs who try like anyone else yay
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Posted: 14th Jun 2011 10:01
Hi Dartnub,

Do what I did when I was new to DarkBASIC Professional.

Read a book.

Once you've read through a few chapters and attempted some code, then consider these forums to further your knowledge.

Put bluntly, unless you have some specific code that you need help with and that you can post, no one here will ever help you.

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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 03:12
...Lol, Grog Grueslayer. I read your post and just couldn't stop laughing.

But yeah, dartnub if you're actually serious about this then at the very least you should at least make a GDD (game design document).
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even thoug i am a new commer and may need help with other new commers to speed up the learning process and in all be more efficient , wow , taturus really is efficient hey we can dump the entire forum resouce help one another thing and put up a jenna tube site yes i mean we all learn the stuff our selves and the universitys we go to do not have lectures as well the fact that a game takes a lot of people to make i mean screw the NEW COMMERS SECTION and we can just name it porn tube hey grue slayer sometihng your groupie ism will amke you good at although why pluto needs a tube i can not tell you so will you all do the right thing and suggest some other newcommers or willing hobbiest else we can do the the tube thing wow horrors really are mean hey who uses make human and do not hurt my feelings i can belly ace at your lame jokes only so much
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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 05:17
to Phaelax look you made a great little tutorial on the rts thing but it will be better if as an administrator you stoped people from getting in the way of knowledge seekers you all collabarated at some time so you well later and good stuff despit the fact the fact that some of them here are groupiests well later phaelax you know i had a screen name phalanx oh can you do me a favoure i asked a freind of mine for some info on processors i know this is game making but alas he dose answer will you be so kind as to direct me to a site or pdf resourse or word even thanks sory for that out of forum topic request there and agin great stuff with the tutorials before you sday any thing else will you send me an email it is dartnub@hotmail.com later phaleax god bless guns that shot missles not into the tube thing thoug later admin code coding
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...What the hell are you even saying?! I think Google Translate should have the 'Idiot' language added. Not to rant here but you haven't even made any attempt at learning the language yourself so as to contribute properly to the project -- note that just doing all the planning isn't as much of a contribution as, say, doing all of the coding or all of the art for a game.

And you then go on to say that we are putting you down for trying to learn -- what exactly are you trying to learn by asking somebody to code your game for you? I'm rather confused here as to what exactly you're trying to get across because the majority of which you have conveyed has been nonsense...and rather conflicting.

Do you need me to translate that into 'Idiot' for you?
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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 07:55 Edited at: 15th Jun 2011 07:56
@ Tom0001:

Thanks... you didn't hurt anything did you? (you ended it with a frown)

At this point I really don't think he's even attempting to learn Darkbasic at all.

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Hmm, maybe we're posting with incorrect syntax. Perhaps dartnub can only understand our replies upon us using the correct syntax at the end of our posts?

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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 10:02
I've got an idea.

@ Dartnub:

If you're not willing to show us some code then pass this test and we will all be willing to help you.

Here's a decryption function that'll decrypt a single string:


And here's an encrypted string that you send to that function:


Now to get the Seed that'll decrypt that text properly just type my first name on any phone.



Now that function requires IanMs Matrix 1 Utilities Plugin so if you don't have it already then download it and install it so the function works right.

https://forumfiles.thegamecreators.com/download/2192430

If you have trouble you can learn everything you need to know to pass this test by looking at TDKs Tutorials.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=99497&b=10

So that's it... decrypt that text and do what it says and you'll have all the help you desire to make your RTS.

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Grog, you forgot

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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 10:53
Hahaha

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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 13:27
Blatherskite

Quote: "to Phaelax look you made a great little tutorial on the rts thing but it will be better if as an administrator you stoped people from getting in the way of knowledge seekers"

I'm not an administrator, though I've been around since DBC was released around 12 years ago.


Quote: "wow agk x box wow yehhh "

It's your random posts like this why nobody is taking you seriously. I suppose your english could just be to terrible for us to comprehend it, in which case I'd suggest using your native language and we'll just google-translate it and then maybe we'll have a better idea what you're talking about.


Oh, and you asked me to send you some info about processors. Since you never stated what kind of information or which processors, I can only point you to Google to do a search.

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to phasleax it is not the random posts they are just being mean like those quiters on dot a that insist that they are not the cause of a bad game which is sad as this was ment to be a learning resource in terms of collabaration and resource handeling the deal is that you should have a better learn ethic or at least promote one trough action you do not insult the new commers and at that use your long standing in the forums to worsen the matter i believe the face book site was based on the same intensions and if you hate a spammer which we all do this is also something which can be hazerdous to forum culture the so called pro dot a player forgot he was noob at one time and so insists on being mean all that said we hate spammers for the same reason it is just my view how can a guy in forums longer that me insult me forr looking for a learning buddie the culture of learning is important and to say the least spamming gets in the way of that culture so you know all in all do not be like those annoyances on garena or efen battle net this is in all aresource site fore creation efficiency as well a learning hence the the various rooms at our disposal if this dose not make any sense we can continue our slure sendin which i if i do say so i am good at and sory for saying that agk was a good product wow any way thank you for the tutorials phaleax later wow have not played dot a in a while bummer oh well later
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hey how do you put good names into games what is a good reliable resource site for this http://www.name-meanings.com/french_name_meanings.php this seems a bit lame can one of you gimme a quick cross referance i will appreciate it later all we are as good as our resource hey later wow the phalanx shoots missles awsome self integrated radr as well wonder how big the ammo is later phaleax the names are almost alike
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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 20:20
@ Phaelax:

Same Seed:



@ Dartnub:

If you actually look at the other messages in the Darkbasic forums you'll see that all of us that have posted here help newibes like you on a daily basis. We aren't helping you because you constantly argue with us and refuse to show us anything you're working on. Until you show some work (just like math in school) we don't think you're actually willing to do anything. To put together a team you have to be willing to do something yourself. If it's not programming you want to do then show us some models or graphics you've made for the project. Show us that you've done something yourself for your dream RTS.

Now if you want to put together a team and actually pay us to work for you (up front) then yes, we will do your bidding and you don't have to do a thing but tell us what you want. But I suspect like all team leaders not willing to do anything themselves you'd rather us do it for free with the promise that we'll get paid when you sell the game... we know that never works out.

So these are your choices to get help from us:
1. Show us some code you've written for your RTS
2. Show us some models you've made for your RTS
3. Show us some graphics you've made for your RTS
4. Pay us money now and we'll join the "team" happily

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so much so current po state keeps you from suggesting other so called noobs right that can go along well to each his own even beneath the beneath but pls be nicer to us simple folk and it is impolite to make such un assumption or at least such with such a tone well off to my tutorials by myself in the beneath the beneath oh wait this my room they look so similar and i have trouble cleaning cause i do not lke house work ....... wheres that db pro........ and the broom is here too ............ later all keep a good forum later O_0
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Yea I know what you meant Grog. But I think it would be difficult for a beginner still because the encrypted string contains quotations which have to be replaced first using chr$().

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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 22:30 Edited at: 15th Jun 2011 22:46
...I'm pretty sure that this guy is a troll now. Stop responding guys and just let it die, please.

...Seriously. Don't post after me. Or be shunned!

EDIT: You know what, forget I said that -- I think that Grog's challenge is interesting. Kind of too advanced for beginners though, especially since the whole CHR$ to replace quotations thing. Not to mention that the message is too long for a print or something of that nature. I had to have it written to an external text file instead, lol.
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Posted: 15th Jun 2011 22:48 Edited at: 15th Jun 2011 22:54
@ Phaelax:

Yeah you're right. Well he did mention looking at the tutorials so there is at least some progress.


@ Tom0001:

Yeah I'm not going to reply to Dartnub anymore unless he's willing to show some code.

Edit since I saw your edit: Yup, that's how I made the message to Phaelax. It's much easier working with text files that don't care if there are quotes. Phaelax is right I should of gotten rid of the quotes to make it easier for Dartnub.

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Yeah. Took me a second or two but I figured it out without much trouble. I must say, Grog, nice use of an encryption/decryption algorithm there, did you write that yourself or...?

Not to hijack the thread (not that it has much meaning anyway), but you seem to have a good understanding of how the randomize <seed> statement works to that end and what it generates and stuff if you did write it, so...care to explain that to me, please?
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and your not a groupie ist well when in numbers so stay ther in your dank self made groupie reality where despite the fACTTHAT YOU ARE AN IDIOT A MINUTE you have other idiots to back you up well guess that a groupie only as strong as the next idiot besides you well on to self learning db pro dang poor gropies cant see beyond themselves well later you goupieous guy all be it that your idiots gees how could you go past the fact that i was asking for other begginers like myselfe to work with what i have dude are you so dependant on this groupie behaviour where you fashoinably get in the way of others that is like well idiotic hey you can rely on your other wexpert gropie buddies and get in the way some mre how would you like that dum dum

hey phaelax dude you shoot missles for peace keeping forces all over the world you should make these guys se the reality of the forum they bring you down man well later hey if work by my self it take twice or even three times as long yayyyyyy hahahahahahah awsome dimwit
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I think that this whole thread is a major failure on the part of the mods. This should have been locked from the very get-go that trouble started.
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I'd happily volunteer for forum mod, if there's a position going.

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@ Tom0001:

Of course I wrote it myself. My first encryption/decryption program using a random seed was in QuickBasic long before Darkbasic existed.

It works because random numbers aren't really random. When you specify a particular seed it will always pick the same random numbers if it's given the same range to choose from. That's why it's perfect for encryption/decryption routines. I use IanMs commands because it makes it easier rather than making more FOR/NEXT loops to search for characters in the keys. This version also repeats code within the encryption and decryption routines because I wanted everything to be in the same place for Dartnub (make it a bit easier). Normally I put the random seed and encryption key creation in it's own function separate from the encryption and decryption functions.

All it does is create Key0$ as the base string for any character you'd normally type on the keyboard (so it's only good for text) using CHR$(32) through CHR$(126). Copies that key base to Key1$ and randomly picks characters from Key1$ to put into Key2$. I use three keys because Key1$ is slowly destroyed (each random character picked is removed) so that characters aren't repeated in Key2$. Once that process is finished Key0$ is the base key and Key2$ is the encryption key. To encrypt it uses a FOR/NEXT loop to go through each character in the string you want to encrypt, it looks at the position of the character in the base key and adds whatever character is in the same position in the encryption key. To decrypt it does the opposite (looks at the encryption key for the character and adds whatever character is in the base key).

So if your keys are like this:
Key0$="ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
Key2$="KSVDBJLORQXZNCWTMPFUIEHAGY"

The word "HELLO" will always encrypt to "OBZZW" and vice-versa.

Using the random seed just makes it easier by letting the computer create the encryption key rather than doing it by hand like I did for the example above.

Here's the whole thing (just create a text file called "! Text.txt"):


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type GUI_type

mode as byte
rem$ as string

endtype

type terrain_limbs
limbno as byte
live as byte
update as byte
endtype

hello there um tell me what dose this mean the the "type" mean wow to stop so low oh wait it is the forums thanks guys you awsome hehehehehehehehe
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Wow some actual code!

It's a User Defined Type (UDT for short). It allows us to make variables and arrays with different data types. Normal arrays are one data type like only strings or only integers. UDTs let us use any data type within an array or variable.

Here are the different datatypes you can use in a UDT:


A UDT by itself doesn't do anything unless you use it with an array or variable like this:



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Here is one of my User Defined Types that I use in majority of my projects.



Great for tracking camera properties and movement.

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jesus you actually have the ability not to be a moron and note I DO NOT LIKE YOU IDIOT WAS THE ENGLISH GOOD ENOUGH OR IS A LOVE FOR LATIN YOU HAVE IDIOT THAT RUINS THE FORUMS stop that jezzz ah the trut is good later man nit wit
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Did you notice how when you posted code and asked a legitimate question you got help? This is the way we programmers that hang out here operate. We help those that are willing to learn and do some work themselves. I'm curious... if you think I'm an idiot then what does that make you since you didn't know what a UDT was?

What's interesting to me is you didn't have all the annoying babble in that last message and it actually made sense. So now we know you can talk better if you really want to.

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@ Dartnub - Calling people and "idiot" will not get you anywhere on the forums. If anything you're heading straight for a slap or ban.

This is from the AUP
Quote: "3.11 We do not tolerate posts made for the purpose of putting down another forum member, group of members, religion, our company, our staff or any of our moderators, past or present."


So think very carefully before you openly insult another forum user again.

Quote: "WAS THE ENGLISH GOOD ENOUGH"

As a community we understand that not all forum users speak English as their first language but we do expect them to tell us and to make and attempt at applying proper grammar in their posts. Some have even taken the initiative to use google translate which, in my opinion, is fine. So please try to apply correct grammar and punctuation in your posts as it makes a huge difference for the people trying to help you.

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Quote: "I think that this whole thread is a major failure on the part of the mods. This should have been locked from the very get-go that trouble started."

We can't be everywhere, it would be a 24 hour job to look at every post in every thread. We have controls such as noob slaps and bans, but only when we know that a problem exists. In this cas, Hodgey emailed me and made me aware of the problem (thank you).

In this particular thread, there has been way too much antagonistic behaviour to compound the original issue. I would advise anyone that wants to keep their account slap-free, that they avoid these types of thread altogether.


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