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FPSC Classic Product Chat / What, how, and where do I get the best specs for FPSC?

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2Beastmode4u
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Posted: 1st Jun 2011 22:39
So, I was just wondering what type of specs are the greatest for use with FPSC? Also, where do you see your specs? Thanks.


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Posted: 1st Jun 2011 22:49
I'm pretty sure an average PC can run the editor just fine. I'd be more concerned about how the resulting game will run, and that's something that you can only discover yourself.



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Posted: 1st Jun 2011 23:35
You can run this little program to get your system specs in an easy to understand report. After you run, click save and it will print your specs to a text file for you to have, copy or upload.

The best specs for FPSC are the best specs for any system.

Brian.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 00:40
Are these good specs?

Specs:
My Computer
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Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium - 64Bit
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor
Memory: 7934.31 MB
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Video Memory: 256 MB
DirectX Version: 9.0c

FPS Creator
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Version: FPS Creator 1.18.017
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Game Creators\FPS Creator

Created with GetSystemInfo by ExploSoft

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xplosys
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 04:11
Quote: "Are these good specs?"


Yes, but the integrated GeForce 9100 w/256MB is a little weak. How does FPSC run for you, for example with the WW2 fpm loaded?

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 04:47 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2011 04:54
It lags on all games eventually. ESPECIALLY when switching through test and edit mode. I have NEVER EVER had 40-50 fps. So do you think that the
Quote: "integrated GeForce 9100 w/256MB"
is the problem? Some games it can be 30-40 minutes before lag, but usually not. Even if I had it pitch black it would probably eventually lag... What should I do? Go to Best Buy and ask if they have a better one or just restart with a whole new custom computer?


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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 06:08
I'm assuming this is a desktop system (not laptop). If so, see if you have a PCI Express slot on the motherboard for a video card upgrade. If you don't know, post the system name and model number and we can look it up.

If it is a laptop then I'm afraid you'll have to suffer with what you've got.

Brian.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 11:02 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2011 11:04
There is no PC which can run FPSC at best!!

Its the next Crysis!!! xD

Just kidding, I have a separate pc for FPSC which has a Core2Duo E6850 along with a XFX 9600Gt Green Edition 512mb(Best investment yet!), 2 GB ram and Windows 7 home premium and I get steady 50 fps in test game on an average sized level with 6 to 7 players active at once.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 11:30 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2011 11:32
I must confess the ATI HD 4670 (1GB) was THE best investment in my 14 year PC history and I still refrain from upgrading my main computer right now! Boasting just 2gb of Ram with a x64 Athlon and ultimately tweaked XP it's my fastest machine for all multimedia needs asin video production, audio production, gaming AND fpsc.

I usually receive around 50-60 (ave 56) fps on test games! Quite impressed with the HD 4670 for the price it truly was and still is a competent card with PS 4.1 support, for this moment in time, i'll say no more!

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2Beastmode4u
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 14:56
@xplosys

Quote: "see if you have a PCI Express slot on the motherboard for a video card upgrade."

I'm not sure where that is on my PC, but as for my system name and model number:

Model:
p6130y

System Name:
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

Is this the info that you wanted me to give you?


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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 15:28
The HP Pavilion p6130y does have a PCI Express x16 upgrade slot. The most common options are ATI or NVIDIA. Personally, I would tend to go with NVIDIA for compatibility reason in both gaming and your existing system chipset, however opinions are like butt holes. Some stink.

Shop for the newest, best deal in your price range. You'll get lots of help/opinion if you need more help on your choices.

Brian.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 19:49
So this would stop my lag? Also, which one do you use and does it lag for you?

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 20:25
I recommend buying something like Geforce GTS450,best card for it's money,or if you want something really fast,GTX460.


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Posted: 2nd Jun 2011 22:59
@2Beastmode4u

I'm a huge computer enthusiast. If you'd like, I'll help you upgrade your computer. In fact, I actually build and sell computers as part of a small business I run. So, to begin, you have two options:

-Upgrade your current computer configuration

-Purchase a new computer configuration

Before you make a decision, I'll provide you with some information on the matter. I'll try to keep it simple and un-techie so everyone can follow.

So, first, let's look at your specs:

Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium, 64-bit

You're running Windows Vista, which is the successor to Windows XP, and the predecessor to Windows 7. All three of those operating systems are fine, and the most supported as of 2011. You also have the 64-bit version of the software, which is currently the best available, as it allows you to use more of the computer's short-term memory, or RAM. Unless you're a big fan of Windows 7's interface and marginal improvements over Windows Vista, you don't need to upgrade here.

CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9750, @ 2.4 GHz

You have a first generation AMD Phenom CPU, which is certainly out of date, but it contains 4 physical cores running at a decent clock speed. For FPSC, this CPU will certainly handle the job, especially in the editor, but in the future, you will need a new computer with a newer-generation CPU to keep up with growing demands from games and other applications.

Memory (RAM): 8 GB

RAM, or Random Access Memory, is like the short term memory of your computer. 8 Gigabytes of RAM is an excellent ammount, as daily use in a 64-bit Operating system never peaks out at more than 2 or 3. This leaves plenty of room for FPSC's editor and test games. The reason computers crash is simply because they run out of RAM, so the OS sort of runs out of "thinking space" so it stops moving altogether. As far as RAM is concerned, you're well off and won't need to think about upgrading here.

Video Graphics: nVidia Geforce GT 9100

This is the single factor that is causing your poor performance in FPSC. The GPU, or Graphics Processing Unit, is the part of your computer that does all the graphics rendering and video output work that allows you to see everything that appears on your screen. The more power your GPU has, the faster it can do these operations, resulting in higher picture quality and faster framerates. The GPU you have is called an IGP, or Integrated Graphics Processor. This means that the GPU is located on the motherboard itself, instead of on a separate Graphics Card that slots in to your motherboard. IGP's are extremely low-end, low performance, cheap solutions that computer companies use for their computers. They are not meant for gaming, and that includes FPSC. Rather, they are intended for light web browsing, small Flash Apps like Farmville (and barely at that!), and other non-GPU intensive things. 4 generations out of date, the Geforce 9000 series has been replaced by the 200 series, 400 series, and 500 series of nVidia GPU's.

A simple upgrade of your Integrated GPU to a Dedicated GPU will increase your FPSC performance substantially. We're talking about 500% or more. I recommend for your computer an nVidia GTS 450, AMD Radeon HD 6450, or, if you really wanna upgrade, a GTX 560 Ti. If you have any further questions, just ask, or email me. If you need help with the upgrade, or would like a custom built computer, I'm here to help!

Good luck with whatever you end up doing!

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2011 01:56
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Thank You! So the only thing that needs updating are the Video Graphics(nVidia Geforce GT 9100). So, are you selling a
Quote: "nVidia GTS 450, AMD Radeon HD 6450, or, if you really wanna upgrade, a GTX 560 Ti"
If so, how much? Also, if I custom made my PC, would I be able to use parts from my current PC?


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2011 05:24 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2011 07:15
@2Beastmode4u

Yes, a new video card is all you need, if you are using a desktop.

Yes, I do sell all 3 of those graphics cards, which is why I recommend them! However, I would rather do business off the forums, as I wouldn't want to upset a Moderator or a fellow user. If you would, e-mail me at:

[email protected]

If you do decide to purchase a custom PC from me, I can certainly salvage some parts from your current computer. For example, I can re-use any CD/Optical/Floppy drives that are in your current computer, maybe the case, and if they are high quality, I can even plug in your old RAM modules. However, I must let you know, I specialize in gaming computers, which are a bit more expensive, with a Gaming PC with a current gen Intel CPU and 500-series nVidia graphics starting at $699. If you add a gaming keyboard, mouse, HD gaming monitor, and speakers, that'll bring you up to $999.99 - $1,299, depending on your selections/customizations. For lower-end PCs, I start at $499 for the tower, but with monitors and other accessories, the full price is about $700-$800. There are lots of options! Hahaha

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2011 07:03 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2011 07:11
My Computer
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Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - 64Bit
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor
Memory: 5119.29 MB
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Video Memory: 1024 MB
DirectX Version: 9.0c

FPS Creator
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Version: FPS Creator 1.18.016
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Game Creators\FPS Creator

Created with GetSystemInfo by ExploSoft


And I pretty much run 60FPS unless I've bogged the zone down with mobs. I think your specs are pretty fine. Having a separate graphics card, even one older than your on-board, will do wonders for you however.

Also never underestimate the power of a good power supply. I've recently upgraded this machine from 250W to 600W and everything's running better. And I mean everything.

The 8600 GT requires like 300W but before I threw that in here everything felt... unstable (is the best word for it). And I honestly didn't notice much of a difference in power when I got the 8600 GT. But once I upgraded my PSU man oh man...
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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 00:29
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E-mail sent. Keep a look out for it.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 01:51
Thanks for the email. I have replied, look out for it!

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 01:56
I've got to think on which one... I'll try to reply as soon as I decide. Thanks for everything so far.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 02:08 Edited at: 4th Jun 2011 02:11
No problem! Take your time, and I look forward to your decision. To get an idea of the kind of power we're talking about here, I'll point you to this vid:

This person has specs comparable to yours, except of course for the GTS 450. If you add that, this'll be pretty close the kind of performance you'll see.



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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 02:10 Edited at: 4th Jun 2011 02:16
@Dillionaire
I replied. In my reply don't think that I don't want to buy from you I just want some answers.


Cheers.


EDIT:
It's so beautiful! I think I'm going to cry.
Also, what game is that?

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 02:30
No problem. All is answered in my reply.

Haha, that's what I said when it came out wayyy back in 2007! That is Crysis, the original, only for PC. Specifically, that is an expansion of the game, called Crysis: Warhead. Preinstalled on every gaming computer I build, it's my favorite game of all time. Crysis 2 doesn't even come close to the graphics capabilities of the original. Darn consoles...

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 03:03
Quote: "It's so beautiful!"


yeah...

well i've run some experiments in 3 different systems.

1.

processor: pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
ram: 1Gb ddr2
geforce 8600 gt

2.

processor: pentium 4 3.00 Ghz hyperthread
ram: 768Mb ddr2
geforce 7200gs (total crap god help me !)

3.

processor core 2 duo E7500 2.93 Ghz (not the best think out there, but very powerfull)
ram: 2Gb ddr2
nvidia geforce 9600 gt 512 mb 256bits 92 CUDA (i guess)


well... in the first sys, i had a good performance in the sugested map WW2.fpm, but there's a lot of limitations to be considered, like: it's not the best sys out there, (not even close) if you want to make a map with a hight concentration and complexity of scripting, with some few opened areas, descent quantity of characters, hight use of shaders and high resolution textures. you are going to be disapointed if you get 20 fps in a map like that, you're a hell of a level designer, at least with this sys


in the second sys... i just... couldn't load the map !
i had to start a new map and put one common segment "to get 20 fps !!!!!!!" what the hell !!!!
simply... NO ! forget it !


the third sys is my best one, i'm looking forward to a 560 ti, when i got the cash, and i'm very happy with my actual sys, i can get 40 fps in a hight quality map and (if aspect ratio = 0) around 71 fps
in the WW2.fpm, very good but i still don't recomend it.


a actualy recomended system is:


processor: core i5 2.66 Ghz
ram: 6Gb ddr3
geforce 560ti (good price, exelent performance)


that's it !

hope i helped you out

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 19:06
Hey, 2beastmode4u, I wanted to check on how things are going! You got my email reply, right?

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 20:38 Edited at: 4th Jun 2011 21:27
Laptops with integrated cards can run FPSC. I myself own a 800 dollar laptop with a mobility radeon 5450 if I am correct, a intel core i5 quad core processor and only 4 gigs to boot. I know it sounds much better then your laptop, but it does prove if you get a decent intergrated chooser gpu, you can run FPSC fine. I myself get a 50 to 60 FPS running in a medium sized level.



Edit: Dillionaire crysis 2 does not come close at the moment due to the shaders that ship with it are dx9. An update is coming out for dx11 shaders.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2011 22:22
@defiler

I know laptops can handle FPSC. Errant AI used to use his notebook for everything he did, including his videos. Your Mobility Radeon 5450 can handle it fine because it has plenty of VRAM. Unfortunately, for 2beastmode4u, his integrated graphics processor had only 256 MB of VRAM, vs. your GPU's 512 MB or 1 GB. Plus, the nVidia Geforce 9100 was introduced 4-5 years ago, vs. yours from mid-2010. That's why he wasn't seeing sufficient performance compared to your pretty decent laptop!

And ahhh, how eagerly I've been awaiting the DX11 patch, but even then Crysis 2 won't be able to match how good Crysis looked so long ago. Plus, Crysis 2's AI doesn't really add up to the original's. Know what I mean? Here's hoping it comes close after the patch, though!

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 05:23
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I just want to be sure that when I buy this, I will no longer lag in games?


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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 05:55
Yes, the GPU is the most important part for performance graphically speaking. The only way you could slow down your FPSC games is by doing something that puts a lot of stress on your CPU, such as having 20+ active enemy AI's at one time.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 23:26
Quote: "just want to be sure that when I buy this, I will no longer lag in games?"


the fpsc was programed with DARK BASIC code, with makes it very heavy
i aways recomend people to have at least 1.5 Gb if they want to run the fps creator nicely, anything but that is a guarantee of hell

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