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Slayer267
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Well post away

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 06:38
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So is this like a,
"Give me all of your ideas so i can steal them MWAAHAHAHA!"

Nah im just kidding, here are my ideas on this:
1. Don't make a horror game, there are too many horror games for FPSC. Half of them are not very good. Im sorry but it's true..

2. Some people have attempted war games, and again most of them are not very good. IM NOT SAYING THAT MY GAMES ARE GOOD, OR THAT THEY DID NOT PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THEM...

3. Im currently making a war type game, i want to add some horror too it. But im still deciding on stuff, anyways i hope a lot of people contribute to this post as i would also like to see some new ideas!

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 06:42
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Quote: "Don't make a horror game"

Number one rule.
I haven't even bought a zombie model pack because horror games are just to boring now.

Modern/Scifi is the way to go. Or the unique way. Just not Zombie related.


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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 06:49
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Hmm I see...

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Quote: "Nah im just kidding, here are my ideas on this:
1. Don't make a horror game, there are too many horror games for FPSC. Half of them are not very good. Im sorry but it's true.."


You are right Exu.

My Ideas
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1.Place more entity that can be cover when player is hurt.

2.More puzzle for games.

Thats all

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I want to see something that is difficult to people using FPSC: Originality. Zombie games and horror games have been done to death. As have, "You're a mercenary who needs to hunt a terrorist target with biological weapons!"

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 08:18
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Ok sooooooooo... How do you do a modern day game? What do you consider black ops to be?

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 09:07 Edited at: 24th Jul 2011 09:08
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Quote: "How do you do a modern day game? "


Well, I've been asking HAL3000 what he thinks about it and he has 35257923958385123 Ideas that have elements you can recombine for another [Array out of bounds] storys and scenarios.

You can get inspiration from a lot of good movies or novels. Or, if you are a more limited human being, call of duty missions.

Quote: "What do you consider black ops to be?"


A pretty decent first person shooter and part of the call of duty series. Black Ops however has due to sneaky marketing and fame reached an immense level of popularity that I can not understand.


Quote: ""Don't make a horror game""


Unless you have a really good idea for it. ( This idea does not involve "fan game" "inspired by other game" "Zombieoutbreak" or "secret labs" at any rate)

And then, Wolf posted his thoughts:

You see... a lot of people buy assets and throw them in the editor. Thats not what this is about. You know that you are on to something good if onl 30% of the actual work are happening in the editor. If this is not the case... you are doing it wrong, trust me

What I would like to see are more games where the editors put in some heart and effort. Some personal style, a minimum of athmosphere and at least media that fits somewhat together.

"Hey! I bought FPSCreator!"
"So you can create your own shooter? Something like crysis?"
"Not exactly, but a good game is totally possible, dude!"
"Awesome! So you can invent your own guns, characters and make up your own story? Heck! You could even invent and entire new world!"
"Nah! I just do what everyone is doing and make a generic zombie shooter!"

I have the feeling that a lot of people had this inner conversation.

What else I would like to see? People that read the tutorials we, the advanced users, are writing and make use of them. LEVEL, GUNS,ZOMBIES,WINZONE is NOT a concept!



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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 17:23 Edited at: 24th Jul 2011 17:28
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Quote: "What else I would like to see? People that read the tutorials we, the advanced users, are writing and make use of them. LEVEL, GUNS,ZOMBIES,WINZONE is NOT a concept!"


BUT^^ it could be hell of fun^!

no, i totally agree to wolf and the others, especially the part with the work outside the editor. the less you use stock material, the more individual your game will be. BUT, it will be also a hell of work to get that. so do what everyone else does the first time to not loose interest and motivation because of too much work around the game. make a zombie/scifi/blackops shooter out of stockware and learn about gameplay,scripting and leveldesign with this. when you get those 2 points, then start to do YOUR game and move on to get things like wolf does.

the best unique and great designed handmade game will be crap if the gameplay is not a good one, and fastest to build tests for this is to use stock and totally ignoring the story ... in other words: doing zombie apokalypse remake^^
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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 18:11 Edited at: 24th Jul 2011 18:16
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Quote: "What would you like to see in a fpsc game?"


Anything except zombies!! Seriously, I think the whole zombie apocalypse thing has been flogged to death!

I like sci-fi games that involve secret labs/secret experiments, just not secret experiments involving creating viruses that turn humans into zombies.

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 19:40
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Well... I can do good level design its just that polygons stop me!!! Ahhhhhhhhh!

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Posted: 24th Jul 2011 20:27
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Quote: "Well... I can do good level design its just that polygons stop me!!! Ahhhhhhhhh!"


Sorry, but that means you dont Dont wanna sound harsh, but I heard that one all so often.

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You would be surprised what I can do but aparently its my comp thats slowing me down

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Posted: 26th Jul 2011 14:23
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a prison escape game with plenty of difficult well thought out puzzles and obstacles in your way. it could start out going around purchasing items from inmates to make a shiv. then killing a guard and taking his keys. there should be multiple ways to escape like for example freeing all the inmates and starting a prison riot or you could take a more tactical aproach silently taking out guards crawling through vents trying not to get caught or a combination of both. that is a game that i would i would like to see in fpsc.
its a shame theres no more model packs that are based on prisons
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I am making my first game and for first game I just want to learn how to design, how to learn some good tricks and other stuffs. I just want to learn as much as I can. Motivation for the game is big advantage and if you have motivation you can make very good game
I agree with all guys that posted here, you should listen to them
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Posted: 26th Jul 2011 16:14 Edited at: 26th Jul 2011 16:16
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I'd like to see some really hot chicks wearing nothing but...wait a minute.... saying it here might be a violation of the forums' AUP.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2011 17:11
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Quote: "I'd like to see some really hot chicks wearing nothing but...wait a minute.... saying it here might be a violation of the forums' AUP."


Parkas are not in violation of the AUP

Neither is coveralls, flight suits, etc...

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Posted: 26th Jul 2011 17:18
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Quote: "I'd like to see some really hot chicks wearing nothing but...wait a minute.... saying it here might be a violation of the forums' AUP. "


Believe it or not, but there IS an adult FPSC Game out there. The models are quiet decent but the whole idea is just plain wierd.

I can't name it on here for obvious reason, but if you want to see it, you can shoot me a mail



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Quote: "I'd like to see some really hot chicks wearing nothing but...wait a minute.... saying it here might be a violation of the forums' AUP. "


lol

Quote: "Believe it or not, but there IS an adult FPSC Game out there. The models are quiet decent but the whole idea is just plain wierd.

I can't name it on here for obvious reason, but if you want to see it, you can shoot me a mail"


I know that games.It seem not the best game but the model are pretty cool.

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whatever you decide to go with. it should have a bit of humor in it. not horror! to many fpsc horror games out there, just look in showcase. something like duke nukem or serious sam. with corny punchlines and stuff
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yeah, hookers and b**bs and guns and atomics!! I ... LIKE - CLICK
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Here is what, and I speak for all the members here and players I think, we want.

A game that is unique in it's own right. GroundBreaking gameplay or method of doing things within the game. I'm not saying it has to be awesome graphics but the way the game plays out and feels needs to be new and fresh.

Feelin' me dwawg?

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Posted: 27th Jul 2011 19:08
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Quote: "Quote: "I'd like to see some really hot chicks wearing nothing but...wait a minute.... saying it here might be a violation of the forums' AUP."

Parkas are not in violation of the AUP

Neither is coveralls, flight suits, etc..."


[Chuckling]

You thinkin' what I'm thinkin' BlackFox? A little morality, please!

Quote: "horror games are just to boring now. "


Wasn't the VBOTB winner Alpha Project a horror game? I mean it used a lot of the horror game tips that are in the OCFPSC Guide, and I think it was a great game (minus the fact that the game cusses the player to the grave... That's why I didn't play it, took one look at the videos and thought "No way am I playing that.") That would have been a great game IF there had not been so much swearing. In my opinion.

Anyway, to answer your question, I would like to see some "clean" games, no blood, swearing, etc. The fact is, I LOVE playing FPS games, especially if it keeps hold of the player's attention in ways besides badguys shooting at him. The thing that holds me back from playing other forum members' games, thought, is the blood and other crude materials involved. I adjusted the files in my FPSC to not include the blood and other crude materials, in case you're wondering.

To sum it up, any game that does not have blood and gore, and does not have anything that is otherwise obscene or vulgar but also has lots of action and player involvement (e.g. an active story) will have me on it's heels.

This is what I would like to see.

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Quote: "To sum it up, any game that does not have blood and gore, and does not have anything that is otherwise obscene or vulgar but also has lots of action and player involvement (e.g. an active story) will have me on it's heels"


Are you stating a comeplete lack of blood?

Or that just isn't the main focus?

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Quote: "Are you stating a comeplete lack of blood?

Or that just isn't the main focus?"


Hmm... In essence, I think I would like a complete lack of not just blood, but everything else I stated. I like my games clean.

Let me also say that it is possible to attract more people doing it this way. I know a lot of people who also like their games to be clean, although I am not sure if they would be willing to pay much. It depends on the quality of the game. Also, I do not guarantee that you could attract more business (if you turn this into a commercial idea) by making your games clean. It is a prefference to some people. I am not sure how many, but I am one of those people.

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Quote: "(minus the fact that the game cusses the player to the grave... That's why I didn't play it, took one look at the videos and thought "No way am I playing that.")"


Alpha Project had extremely clean dialogues

Quote: "no blood, swearing, etc. The fact is, I LOVE playing FPS games, especially if it keeps hold of the player's attention in ways besides badguys shooting at him. The thing that holds me back from playing other forum members' games, thought, is the blood and other crude materials involved."


You really are a one in a million type person, eh? What first person shooters do you have that do not involve blood or at least some swearing?

Tha would be a "civilwar" I gues... -"Oh, pardon me, good sir *bam**bam**bam*"

I understand that people dont like swearing like in the new "chronicles of riddick game" where this one inmate is constantly talking about how he loves to violate dead women. But simple heck and fword in a shooter offending anyone? Nah, you lost me here



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Quote: "But simple heck and fword in a shooter offending anyone? Nah, you lost me here"


Yeah, and it loses a sense of realism too. If you shoot someone they're not going to go "Oh golly gosh! I've been shot!" or "Come here you little scallywag so I can kill you!".


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Wolf sent you a request on MSN

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Quote: "Alpha Project had extremely clean dialogues"


Um ... As opposed to what?

Quote: "Yeah, and it loses a sense of realism too. If you shoot someone they're not going to go "Oh golly gosh! I've been shot!" or "Come here you little scallywag so I can kill you!"."


I know. But there are some of us who prefer to keep certain degrees of realism OUT of our games. Further more, there are those of us who try to hold to high standards, and keeping those degrees of realism out helps us maintain these standards while having fun. Let's remember that we're playing games, we're not in the army or robbing a bank, although some people like to get as close to the real thing as possible.

Quote: "You really are a one in a million type person, eh?"


Yes, I am.

Quote: "What first person shooters do you have that do not involve blood or at least some swearing?"


Why, my own of course! I actually own scarcely any games. I prefer making them, although playing something like Call of Duty is a WHOLE lot of fun (I only played a store demo of it once when I was young, when all I noticed was the badguys, commanders shouting orders, and gunshots!).

Now, we are getting WAY off topic. I stated what I wanted to see in an FPS game, and what I said was my opinion. If Slayer wants to make a bloody FPS, let him do it. If he wants to make a clean game, I'm all for it.

But my question still stands: Was Alpha Project a horror game or not?

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I want to make a bloody fps in fact I want it so bloody I could rip peoples limbs off >.<

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Quote: "I want to make a bloody fps in fact I want it so bloody I could rip peoples limbs off >.<
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I remember this man saying the same thing.



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I think we need more zombies.

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Omg is that chuck norris or someone else

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You might not want to read through all that... It's pretty sick



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Yeah... You still give me a link... Cool though

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Quote: "Yeah... You still give me a link... Cool though"


I put the link up so you'd know who he was, when I said it was sick, I literally meant sick, as in disgusting...

This is getting off topic.



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Quote: "Was Alpha Project a horror game or not?
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I wouldn't say it that way. It was a pure first person shooter to me

Quote: "As opposed to what?"


Most first person shooters



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anyone want to tell me some good level design hints?

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no! nah just kiddin. i am horrible at level design so i couldnt tell you anything about it.
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:\ Ok anyone else? I'm ok at level design to tell you the truth!

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well nobody was EVER capable to create a "deus ex" based game, it's kinda tricky, you should try.

mods for creating a inteligent game,at least
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