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FPSC Classic Models and Media / First model ever in sketchup 8 and dont know how to make fpsc ready

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Hey

this is my first model ever made in sketchup 8 i made it and texture it by paint tool in the sketchup i dont know how to uv map it in sketch up anyway when i try to export it as .x format it's exported but with the two textures i chosen before and when i try to make it in the entity maker it only allows 1 texture so how can i make it fpsc ready here is a screenie



and here is a screenie for what sketchup 8 export when i press export .x format which i got from 3drad



i need help with this really i destroyed my mouse trying to solve this problem

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I Just Created A Lamp Omg It's Easier More Than What I Though It Will Be

Guys Please I Need An ANSWER For My Problem I Want To Take Them To Fpsc Ready Please

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Just make an FPE for the model leaving the texture= blank And make sure youre entity is set to dynamic in FPSC. Also, I would NEVER recommend using Sketchup with FPSC as it is just not for Game modelling. Sure, use it to make a prototype or concept sketch, but NEVER use it to model for youre game

This info. is also in Nickydude's Community Guide

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how to make that fpe script ? i was trying to use the entity maker because it makes it easier
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i think anayar if i left the texture = blank like that it would be un textured :/ am i right ?

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BTW Sketchup is the easiest i have blender it sucks :S

i tried 3d world studio it sucks more :S

wings3d didnt try it well but didnt like it

is there anything else ?

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Posted: 27th Jul 2011 07:50 Edited at: 27th Jul 2011 07:51
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Quote: "how to make that fpe script ? i was trying to use the entity maker because it makes it easier"

You just copy over an FPE from one of the stock models. I have attached a Blank FPE where you just put in the Name of your model and mesh path in the appropriate places. Make sure the mesh is in the entitybank along with the FPE.

Quote: "i think anayar if i left the texture = blank like that it would be un textured :/ am i right?"

No, Sketchup saves the texture coords onto the model. Just make sure the textures Sketchup exports are in the same folder as your mesh AND FPE.

Quote: "BTW Sketchup is the easiest i have blender it sucks :S"

Actually, Blender as a modelling tool is EXTREMELY powerful... its just that its interface sucks... I mean, IMHO ive never seen worse.

Quote: "i tried 3d world studio it sucks more :S"

Uhh...Correct me if Im wrong, but I dont think 3D World Studio is even for modelling is it?

Quote: "wings3d didnt try it well but didnt like it"

Wings3D is rumored to be extremely easy to learn and use...id give it a second chance if I were you. Trust me when i say that you are not going to get anywhere (in modelling terms) using Sketchup. I made the same mistake as you when I started... Once you get used to the simplicity of Sketchup, it is almost 100x times harder to become familiar with a REAL modelling program.

Quote: "is there anything else ?"

There are thousands more if you cared to look

I use Milkshape, Fragmotion, 3DS Max... these are all extremely powerful tools in their own right, but if you wanted a tool that is most similar to Sketchup youd have to invest in 3DS Max (Just because it also has somewhat of a click and drag interface )

As I said before, My father always used to say: "You can learn from others advice and avoid the many mistakes OR you can do it the way you like and fall into the pitfalls. The wise man chooses the former, but those who choose the latter come out as wise men "

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What is Mesh ?

Sorry for being too n00bie

and 3ds max i know it's good but can i use it for modelling for fpsc ?? didnt know that

Thnx for your help when i be good in modelling i will make free models for you xD

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wait i got it mesh is the model it self

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i tried what you said i putted the name of the entity .x and it appear as white dot :/

look up in 2nd screen everything of this files are avilable and the fpe file only is the new thing

and this is what is wrote in the fpe file
P.s .x name is untitled

Quote: ";header
desc = Untitled

;ai
aiinit = Appear1.fpi
aimain = Default.fpi
aidestroy = Disappear1.fpi

;spawn
spawnmax = 0
spawndelay = 0
spawnqty = 0

;orientation

model = Untitled.x
offx = 0
offy = 0
offz = 0
rotx = 0
roty = 0
rotz = 0
scale = 100
defaultstatic = 1
materialindex = 3
collisionmode = 1
strength = 0

;visualinfo

textured =
effect =
castshadow = 0

;Animationinfo










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Quote: "What is Mesh ?"

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+3D+mesh

Quote: "and 3ds max i know it's good but can i use it for modelling for fpsc ?? didnt know that"

Mate, its not called Industry Standard for nothing...

Quote: "Thnx for your help when i be good in modelling i will make free models for you xD"

LOL... well thanks for the thought, though Id much rather you made them for the community

Send me the model file ALONG with the textures

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anayar look i made this in tough time now i am traveling when i come back i come back after 4 days i will send every thing to you and see how to solve this problem ty for your help and you really good thanks

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and here is what you asked for

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what i put for is the thing which appeared as white dot in fpsc test game

see you after 4 days

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Quote: "anayar look i made this in tough time now i am traveling when i come back i come back after 4 days i will send every thing to you and see how to solve this problem ty for your help and you really good thanks"

Okay mate, NP

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[EDIT]Didnt see ur DL... Ill take a look [/EDIT]


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Posted: 27th Jul 2011 08:19 Edited at: 27th Jul 2011 08:25
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The reason youre model was a dot is because the scale of the model is miniscule... You will need to scale it up in a program OTHER than Sketchup or if you are willing to waste hours of your life, in Sketchup

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[EDIT] You might want to consider using my Complete Milkshape-FPS tut... Its meant for people like you who want to, but havent worked up the confidence to use a more full-fledged modelling tool. Let me know if you want it early, or if you can wait, it will be released end of the week [/EDIT]


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Alright, here ya go...

The Model:


In-Game:


Not counting my own selfish reasons for working on this model , I hope you enjoy it And if you have further questions, feel free to ask

The Download includes Model, Textures, OBJ File, Milkshape File and MAX file. Talk about Overkill

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Anayar Well What Do you mean with scale up ?

and is there anyway to work on sketchup :/ it's the easiest and i will go and see milkshape3d now

Thanks for the model

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i need those tutorials anayar for milkshape i couldnt mail you idk why ? :/

and i just need to know something can I model things in sketchup then export them as .x files and then scale them up in blender maybe and then make them fpsc ready by the way you told me

and I think noobs like me will like sketchup because it is the easiest anyway

and add me on [email protected]

I want to chat not on those forums I might need your help many times

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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=177710&b=21

Scroll down about halfway down. I wrote a sketch up tutorial with a slightly older version of the program but it all should still work.
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Quote: "i need those tutorials anayar for milkshape i couldnt mail you idk why ? :/"

Patience my friend... Making the tutorials work and having to deal with broken software/hardware isnt the easiest thing in the world
And I have no idea why you cant email me Everyone else seems to be able to Mail me at


Quote: "and i just need to know something can I model things in sketchup then export them as .x files and then scale them up in blender maybe and then make them fpsc ready by the way you told me
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Yes you can, but you will NEVER become a good modeller if you follow that route and might well end up in a lot of trouble when you actually want to make REAL models for games

If you have Milkshape, then just go to the "Scale" option and scale it up a bit. You will have to play with the scale settings. If you are going to use Sketchup, go to scale, choose the entire model, and scale it up a LOT. If you want the scale to be more accurate, use one of the Engineering templates (meters/feet works best).

Quote: "and I think noobs like me will like sketchup because it is the easiest anyway"

Well like I said, you can take my advice or leave it... up to you

Quote: "I want to chat not on those forums I might need your help many times"

Well Ive added you... Though I cant promise Ill always be available as I have a life outside of these forums to live you know Anyways, Ill help you when I can... feel free to leave offline messages (as many as you want )

Oh, and look in the Community Giude for a good Sketchup tutorial by Daarboven...

Cheers,
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Well Anayar Let's Take The Advice

I Want A Program Easy Like Sketchup 8 Wings 3D i Dont Even Know How To Make A Circle

Milkshape 3D i dont have pro thing i have free trail and it's hard i took 2 hours creating a box and suddenly i found a box creater on the side this made me very disappointed :\

Blender Tough dont know anything in it

3DS Max Too Big To Download I Think ( Didnt Even Search For It )

What i Want Is A Program With An Interface Just Like Sketchup And All It's Tools It's Easier More Than What I Though

And I Will Leave Offline Msgs Dont Worry
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Quote: "I Want A Program Easy Like Sketchup 8 Wings 3D i Dont Even Know How To Make A Circle "

Well, if you find it hard to draw a cylinder in Wings3D... which is supposed to be the next best Sketchup alternative for game modelling, well Im afraid your out of luck Maybe you should watch a few tutorials and try a bit harder

Quote: "Milkshape 3D i dont have pro thing i have free trail and it's hard i took 2 hours creating a box and suddenly i found a box creater on the side this made me very disappointed :\"

Uhh mate... theres documentation for a reason. There are also thousands of helpful tutorials if you just search for them, which tells you about MOST of the basic functions of Milkshape. Its your own fault for jumping right in... If i was trying to make a box, and saw a button called "Box", Im quite sure Id click on it and give it a shot

Quote: "Blender Tough dont know anything in it"

Sorry mate, cant help you here. Never liked it, never used it Though it is supposed to be extremely powerful...

Quote: "What i Want Is A Program With An Interface Just Like Sketchup And All It's Tools It's Easier More Than What I Though "

Sorry mate, but modelling programs just dont come with interfaces liek Sketchup's. Sketchup is a prototyping/Conceptualization tool and it reflects that. If you really want to model for video games your going to have to invest the time to learn to use a modelling tool that is meant for video games

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ok milkshape on board from noob to pro but it's boring xS
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