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TKF15H
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I'm trying to install php on my PC so I can test my scripts before sending them to my server. I've done everything that's in the installation text except for 1 thing: I don't have a web server. Is it totally necessary, considering I don't want to host anything, all I want to do is run scripts locally. If I do need a web server, which is the smallest one I can get that supports PHP?

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www.easyphp.com or www.easyphp.org or somming.

install this, run it and put the files in the www folder. PHP, APACHE and MYSQL all working.

So you could get the binary distros for APACHE and PHP and configure yorself, but unless you want the really hard stuff and latest features easyphp will do fine.

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Got to be Apache - best FREE webserver around and supports PHP, and Yes, a webserver is necessary.

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TKF15H
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I was hoping the server wasnt necessary. And of course I'll use Apache. Not only is it the best FREE webserver, it's THE best webserver. Is the windows version as good as the linux one? I have the linux version installed, but I don't know anything about its windows counterpart.

Thanks for the speedy replies.

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I use apahie for my Linux server.

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TKF15H
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hmmm... **Dumb question alert**
When I installed Linux, it came with apache. Where do I get a windows port?

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Does nobody know how to use google?

http://www.apache.org/

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Since so many people use apache, and talk about it, I thought a google search would give another one of those endless lists with completely irrelevant content... Any way, thanks spooky.

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Apache for Windows is fine and will do everything you need for testing PHP scripts. Personally I'd recommend you use Xitami though. You'll be set-up and working within seconds without any of the conf file complications or overhead.

(Having said that, I use the PHPEd Technology Platform (Apache,MySQL,PHP4) on my Windows box for all site testing before uploading to the TGC server.

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You don't need a webserver to test simple PHP scripts. Just run "php myphpfile.php" from the command prompt and it'll give you all the output in plain text, though for more complicated scripts a webserver is definitely preferable.

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OK, it's working now, but I keep getting a strange error. Instead of my HTML code showing up, I get something like "no input file". What's this?

one more question: How do I make the PHP automatically sign off a logged on user when he/she closes the browser?

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session cookies are best way

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Man, I hate those sign images, always make me think someone is hacking onto my computer!

PS: Mattman, harsh, not sure bout the rest of you, but I'm on Ravens side.


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NWC-- that's Mattman's system info, not yours, unless IE6 suddenly looks like Opera to me . Yes, it's harsh, he'll have to remove it on very short notice I'm sure, but it does bring a smile to my face...

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what do you mean, "that's Mattman's system info"? Unless ofcourse, he also has a server in Brazil...

I'm using Opera too. Take a look at this:
click on File then Quick Preferences.
at the bottom, it says "identify as _____".
you have it configured to identify itself as IE.

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How did you guys learned it?!
Im tring to learn it now but it is hard
even when I copy a code (see and write not ctrl+C then ctrl+V)
I get tons of errors and when I think I fixed them I get more errors
so Im kinda frustrated from this but I hope I will not give up
I would like to build a forum sometime
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Yeah, PHP can be frustrating at times. Errors messages can be as vague as DB's sometimes. Usually missing semicolans off end of lines is my favourite.

Your best bet is to buy a book. I am going through a PHP for beginners book and it really helps. Also download the php help file from the php site. It is really useful.

A background in javascript is also very helpful.

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'you have it configured to identify itself as IE.'

D'oh, I thought it was set to identify as Mozilla 5. My bad

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Quote: "I get something like "no input file". What's this?"


A 404 basically.

Quote: "How do I make the PHP automatically sign off a logged on user when he/she closes the browser?"


It depends how they logged in! If you use cookies, just erase them. If you use a session, it'll expire when they close the browser anyway.

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IF you would like Omega, I could take it out. Or you could just disable sig images

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I use phpdev, do a search on google. When you want to use PHP just run phpdev and you're away

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@Mattman: Nah, I like some peoples sig images, like Ravens, TheCodingAreas, fine pieces of craftmenship, even if they didnt make em themselves.


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Quote: "A 404 basically."

OK. That explains quite a lot. When I try to run my PHP script it works, but when I pass arguements (forum.php?s=1) I get this error. This means that it's trying to open that file without removing the arguements first. I'll go hit my head with a hammer for a while...

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I took it out of my sig anyways, some people might also dislike it.

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Where's Andrew, I thought he knew everything there is to know about PHP.

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Quote: "I took it out of my sig anyways, some people might also dislike it.
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Thanks, I just think its creeepy seeing my IP and ISP on a sign carried by a troll. How the heck do they do that anyway?


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Quote: "Thanks, I just think its creeepy seeing my IP and ISP on a sign carried by a troll. How the heck do they do that anyway?"


It's very easy PHP. In order to get an image you have to know where to send it back, so your ip address is always broadcast.

Nothing you can do about it no matter how high you crank up the firewall

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Quote: "so your ip address is always broadcast"


Broadcast yes, but easily fake-able.

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LoL... now we're gtting into the technical stuff...


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Ok Rich... that is just odd...

I just posted
Quote: "LoL... now we're gtting into the technical stuff..."


AFTER i had read you post about it being fakable...

Yet, it says that you posted AFTER me, and therefore i couldn't have read it... but i did... What's going on?

[EDIT] Arrgggg, and this post is before it too... what's up with that? [/EDIT]


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Quote: "@Mattman: Nah, I like some peoples sig images, like Ravens, TheCodingAreas, fine pieces of craftmenship, even if they didnt make em themselves."


nice to know what confidence you have in my art stills, my last 3 signatures have been 100% my own work. Current one though is based on pre-made characters, still my own sketches inked and coloured in photoshop. Same goes for the background.

as for the signature sign of mattmans, he no doubt got it from the jscript banner that does that which is currently doing the rounds.
pissed me off because it has a thing in it that said
"You use AOL, which completely SUCKS!"
i reckon none of the morons that badmouth AOL have ever even bloody used it.

Nice to see that there is actually someone else on NTL:Interactive ... god almost none on is on it here, makes for some truely awesome game pings


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Ya, that banner is pretty cool. It said AOL sucks? I did not make it myself, but I disagree with that statment (not saying it is good, but it does not suck either)

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I got another two questions ^^

1. Where do you write PHP I mean in which program?
Im currently using HTML-KIT but it is not only for PHP
and I want a program for PHP only any ideas?
2. From where did you learn PHP?
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1. Any text editor basicly. I write all my web pages (using JavaScript, HTML, PHP) in notepad
2. www.phpfreaks.com is a good one. I got a book, "Essential PHP for web professionals" by Christopher Cosentino, although I dO NOT reconmend it.

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Renegade - get something with PHP syntax highlighting like Homesite, PHPEd, phpEdit, etc. Have a search around, you'll find plenty of them out there. You can use Notepad, but personally unless you've got time to burn like it's going out of fashion, don't bother.

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JessTicular: maybe a result of British Summer Time ending and screwing with the times a bit. Dunno. No other reason why it should have done that. Maybe you're just going mad?

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Quote: "like Homesite, PHPEd, phpEdit, etc. Have a search around, you'll find plenty of them out there"


Thats what I mean but I want a program that someone knows
and not just a program got a name for me?
I will also appreciated if someone will help me in the ICQ or messangerwhich mean that I will send him some scripts and he will see what are the problems with it (not some thing like forum only small scripts).
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Quote: "Thats what I mean but I want a program that someone knows
and not just a program got a name for me? "


Most of those are pretty famous programs, Macromedia Homesite def.

I use DPHPEdit, search on google.

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I found this program and download it
Its a very nice program I hope I will love it

thank you for all of your help
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Sorry for rising this topic but I can use a hand.

here is the source for my login system
it have a lot of problems that I don't see
but maybe you will see them.

I know this is not the best syntax
but it is only my first script.

hmmmmm you cant see all the php script
I was certin that you will be able to see the php

got it go to here http://planet.nana.co.il/caspi00/phpscript.txt
and look at the source.
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I use HTML Kit.

I would use Zend Studio, but my version is now obsolete. HTML-Kit is very good as you can d/l updates which add things like all the PHP commands so finding the right command when you can remember it has never been easier.

Also it has a preview and gecco mode (spelling??) so you can see it in IE and Mozilla.

Also there is a FTP feature so that you can work off files on a server (great for quick fixes or development).



Not that i like it.

I also use Edit Plus for quick viewer, and notepad for scanning. I have about 3 others around, Context and another couple. Cant remember.

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Your server seams to be down or something... I can't click on the link.

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Another handy editor is http://textpad.com/. It supports a lot of different file formats with syntax highlighting, and its cheap.

I would be unstoppable if I could just get started...
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I had use HTML-KIT before and now I got back to it
I didn't like DPHPEdit
Now my problem is with that script, the website
is working fine in my computer try to refrash a few times
or try again later I hope it will work.
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Page cannot be displayed. So, can't check the code.

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hmmmmmmmm
Thats what happand when you are using a free host :

If I will copy the code to here (Message not source
the PHP will be shown?

Here try this
http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/3f9fd766047eb971.txt
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linked to a gif... i just finished a login system, but I used javascript instead.
Essentally it was a case of checking to see if a cookie was created. When they register it puts a cookie there with the relivant information and each visit updates certain information for use later.
All done with a few if/else statements along with readCookie and writeCookie

but it depends exactly what your trying to achieve if it'd be useful, I can't get it to access mySql atm though probably a lack of exp using db's


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I just checked the source in the post that I post before
and in the source you can see the system including PHP
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