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machinimagames
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2011 18:17
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Can someone give me a link to were to download it at?
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Mr Bigglesworth
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2011 21:59
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You have to buy it, it isn't free.
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Desecrated Studios
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Asking for a download link is NOT a smart idea on the FPSC forum. Im guessing this thread will be locked, but please don't ask for links. Pay for the program yourself!

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Norion
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2011 23:28
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There's only a free version of X9 X10 doesn't have one.

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But if you asked for a torrent link, then I have only one thing to say: EPIC FAIL !!!!!

(I really hope you didn't asked for a torrent link )

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VaMpIr3
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I think he was asking for a demo version of X10,
"FPS Creator Free" ring a bell?

Sadly there is no FPS Creator X10 Free.


This forum is so quick to call out anything related to piracy :/

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RAXMUX Games
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Posted: 24th Oct 2011 00:07 Edited at: 25th Oct 2011 19:10
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OK

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Norion
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Posted: 24th Oct 2011 00:28
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Quote: "This forum is so quick to call out anything related to piracy :/"


Thats because there are many pirate's out there

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srealist
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Posted: 24th Oct 2011 04:33 Edited at: 24th Oct 2011 04:36
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Wow...talk about jumping to conclusions. Let's start with a basic faith in humanity and then let 'em prove us wrong before bringing down the ban hammer.

There's no demo version of x10, but for the price you get both x9 and x10. Each engine has its advantages and disadvantages. Buying x10 gives you access to both and is an incredible deal.

Furthermore, having surveyed a wide variety of world editors/game engines, I can say the x9/x10 has the lowest learning curve I have seen. My 5 year old was making playable levels in 30 minutes. True story.
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machinimagames
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Posted: 25th Oct 2011 04:46
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A link to where to buy it is what i'm asking. Stop posting thing like you are goingtoget ban.com if you don't even know what i'm talking about. Link to download it on the site obviously i'd have to buy it. Maybe I have to clearafy better. Remember they have to approve my post.
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Posted: 25th Oct 2011 13:30 Edited at: 25th Oct 2011 13:31
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http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2127&page=index#order

not that hard to find
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Posted: 25th Oct 2011 19:19 Edited at: 25th Oct 2011 19:20
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Oh, sorry for being rude . There are alot of piracy around here (i bet that half of all fpsc owners have pirated it) so i really got mad and typed something without thinking. Sorry.

And finnaly a tip : Fpsc 9 has a far larger community and almoust all user use that version. Now days with all free updates and custom shaders you can make your fpsc 9 look better than fpsc 10 does. 9 got more custom content. There are 60 model packs for fpsc but only few of them works with x10. The stock material in fpsc is kind of bad same with the stock Ai. If you have 9 then theres also a HUGE bank of free media and very cool custom shaders that don't work in 10. And last 10 will not be updated no more so its kind of dead. 9 are still being devolped by tgc so they add new features evry update and fix hundreds of bugs (fpsc is very buggy). So consider that before buying X10.

Good Luck

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Jaden Korr
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Posted: 25th Oct 2011 19:35
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The stock media, especially the scifi one is pretty good when used correctly IMHO.

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Posted: 25th Oct 2011 20:31
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I want to say a few things 2

first things first: Its good to hear that you are not asking for a torrent link. (that makes me happy )

And a few quotes. (I do not want to start a fpsc X9/10 war or something)

I just want to point some things out.

Quote: "Now days with all free updates and custom shaders you can make your fpsc 9 look better than fpsc 10 does."


That is NOT a fact. I think thats not true because fpsc X10 usus Pixelshader 4.0, and X9 usus PS 2 and 3 (or even below ?) Yes it is TRUE that fpsc X9 has more shadders at the moment but that doesn't mean that the games actually look better. this is just my view. And I respect yours to.

Quote: "9 got more custom content. There are 60 model packs for fpsc but only few of them works with x10."


This is NOT true. You can convert every modelpack to X10. If you know what you're doing. You can make every single piece of custom content fpsc X10 ready.

Quote: "custom shaders that don't work in 10."


You can convert those shader to Pixelshader 4. So you can make them work. (It has been done before)

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Raxmux is right about the fact that Fpsc X10 is not beeing supported by the game creators anymore. But it is supported by the fpsc X10 community. maybe you have heard of mystic mod ? (first mod for fpsc X10)

@Raxmux

I don't want to insult you. (never wanted to) I just wanted to point some things out. I respect your view over X10 2.

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Okay, now one more thing. I personally think you should buy X10 because:

1. If you buy X10 you get X9 for free !

2. The fpsc X10 community is very nice (I personally think that they are nicer then the X9 community users )

3. one BIG feature of X10 that X9 doesn't have is that you can have as many characters as you want. here, check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NhUhHtnQB4

well... I think thats it for now. Again, I'm NOT trying to start a fpsc X9/10 war. I'm just pointing out my view. If anyone does not agree with me. Then I have no problem with that. Lets just keep it friendly.

Cheers

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machinimagames
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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 05:46
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Are you saying I should buy x9 instead because more uses use it?
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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 10:49 Edited at: 26th Oct 2011 11:04
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always the same discussions^^

if you want nice graphics, nearly up-to-date, buy x10 and get x9 for free with it. if you want nice graphics, NOT that nearly up-to-date but with some features, buy x9.
if you want a mass of free models and many ready-builded packs without work on them, buy x9.

if you want to learn scripting and give your game a unique touch in behaviors with as much as possible control, buy x9.

games are not made out of graphic features. and x9 has much more possibilities in scripting than x10, in addition to all the different mods available. all honors to the mystic mod for x10, but scripting for x10 is quiet a bit far away from x9.
also performance is not that good anymore when the games get complex in x10, at the end nearly the same performance as with x9... but better graphics
x9 community is way bigger, but i dont wanna say its better.
one problem both share: the outdated directx versions. x9 is the old standard. x10 died with vista and will be canceled completely by microsoft sooner or later.

free trial fpsc x9:
http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2001&page=Free

free trial fpsc x10 (only german language, official games-mag link, not any form of piracy. official demo without buildgame-option (only testgame) and with only some basic models, but enough for testing):
http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=470&pk=1949030


if you have enough money, buy x10 with the free license for x9 on board, so you can test both.



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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 15:38 Edited at: 26th Oct 2011 15:40
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sick of this debate and the wars it brings.

X9 HAS A LOT OF USERS AND HAS A NICE ARRAY OF MODELS AND AI.
X9 HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM TGC AND MOD MAKERS.
X9 DOES HAVE A LOT OF GREAT AND WONDERFUL FEATURES.LIKE LIP SYNC,PARTICLE MAKER,ADVANCED AI,WHICH X10 DOES NOT HAVE.
X9 CAN RUN ON LOWER SPEC COMPUTERS MAKING IT MORE UNIVERSAL AND NOT WORRYING ON THE GPU TO RUN IT.
THIS IS FACTUAL. HOW DO I KNOW, I USE IT. I HAVE IT[b]

X10 HAS NEWER SHADERS PS4 SO IT DOES HAVE NICER GRAPHICS,
ALSO NOTE X9 USES 512 X 512 TEXTURE SIZES X10 USES 1024 X 1024
HENCE MORE DETAIL DRAWN AND FOR BETTER GRAPHICS, FACT.(OR WAS)
X10 HAS INSTANCING MEANING YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE ENEMY SCATTERED ABOUT (without ever worrying of performance).
X10 USES MULTI CORE THREADING MAKING FOR A FASTER ENGINE.
X10 CAN USE MOST MODEL PACKS AND ALL HAVE BEEN CONVERTED
HOW DO I KNOW THIS, I HAVE IT AND HAVE DONE IT.

X10s BEST FEATURE TO ME IS THE ON SCREEN EDITOR IN GAME. life is so mush easier.

and x10 has MYSTIC MOD now and is adding many new things
it has fixed many bugs and has variable systems,cam shake, and new ai also.

both engines can use the same media so there is no cant have from either side, x9 will run 1024 textures but cut down to 512, x10 run 512. both now in dds format so no problem there, the main issues are the scripts, and if you know how to script then work arounds are done.
in the end x10 is kept alive and x9 is thriving both are good and make for fun and challenging ideas

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@Norion : Lol you pwned me pretty hard. Didn't know these facts though. Always nice to learn something new.

Quote: "That is NOT a fact. I think thats not true because fpsc X10 usus Pixelshader 4.0, and X9 usus PS 2 and 3 (or even below ?) Yes it is TRUE that fpsc X9 has more shadders at the moment but that doesn't mean that the games actually look better. this is just my view. And I respect yours to."


Well ... x10 can look better than x9 but for the moment I'm thinking that x9 looks better. And btw x9 got more script commands so it's easier to write cool custom scripts.

Quote: "This is NOT true. You can convert every modelpack to X10. If you know what you're doing. You can make every single piece of custom content fpsc X10 ready."


Kind of True, but you can't have these special features like 341 Taskforce weapons with meele and ironsights and bond's limb hit detection and cool stuff like that. So you can't get everything that x9 has and put it in x10.

Quote: "The fpsc X10 community is very nice (I personally think that they are nicer then the X9 community users )"


101 % right (we x9's are evil devils from outerspace compare to them)

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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 22:14 Edited at: 27th Oct 2011 00:00
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@ Raxmux

I'm glad that you aren't angry


Its true that X10 doesn't have LHD. But if you use Mystic mod, you can use ironsight and recoil in fpsc X10 2.

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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 23:26
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Quote: "I'm glad that you aren't angry"

Why sould I

@machinimagames : If you can't decide between x9 and x10 so just buy x10 so you have them both (x9 will only come along with the demo media but as said before there are endless of custom stuff)

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Posted: 26th Oct 2011 23:54 Edited at: 26th Oct 2011 23:54
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Quote: "Why sould I"


Because some people are just... you know... MAD

Cheers M8

EDIT: Glad you aren't part of "those" people .

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Quote: "weapons with meele and ironsights"

x10 now has AirMod fully integrated, thanks to Mystic Mod

But yes, machinimagames, go with what you want personally, but I'd recommend x10, for all the reasons aforementioned.

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Quote: "x10 now has AirMod fully integrated, thanks to Mystic Mod"


I forgot to mention that ! Thanks Le Shorte.

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@machinimagames
just x9 and save you self some money. get fps x9 and get 9 free model packs with it.http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_bundle&id=11

more than what meets the eye

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Quote: "ALSO NOTE X9 USES 512 X 512 TEXTURE SIZES X10 USES 1024 X 1024"

so even if i make a GIANT model my texture will still have to be 512x512 ?

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Quote: "so even if i make a GIANT model my texture will still have to be 512x512 ?"

Yep.

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Posted: 30th Oct 2011 06:15 Edited at: 30th Oct 2011 06:52
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Quote: "so even if i make a GIANT model my texture will still have to be 512x512 ?"

Quote: "Yep."

Actually ....nope

I dont know where you guy's are getting this from....directx 9 has a size limit of 4096x4096 (this of course is dependant on the gpu, I dont think even x10 will exceed this due to memory size). If you dont want texture reduction in FPSC its as simple as changing a flag in the setup.ini:
dividetexturesize=0
You can even do this in the editor on an individual model basis in the entity properties.
If your card wont handle large textures it wont crash your system they are simply reduced on loading unless your using a whole bunch of oversized mega textures.
Of course you dont want to be using huge textures all over evrything in your game its all about compromise with whats seen where and size of your models etc, same goes for x10.
So both x9 and x10 will use 1024x1024 or even 2048x2048 textures easily.

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