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greenpavel
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Posted: 2nd Dec 2011 16:30 Edited at: 2nd Dec 2011 17:08
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It would be desirable to specify.
Into the account of copyrights.
How to define that it is possible and that disable.
Where to look at what ideas under copyrights.
As with them to agree.
Here I want to make unpretentious an arcade-simmuljator with space and land actions.
Preparations while aren't present.
Here wanted to specify a question.
If not on sale, though for itself.

If the person will pass under the signature and translates that I have written. http://www.translate.ru/

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Is it a poem?

-In.Dev.X: A unique heavy story based shoot'em ~35%
-CoreFleet: An underground commander unit based RTS ~15%
-TailsVSEggman: An Sonic themed RTS under development for idea presentation to Sega ~15%
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We do not understand what you are saying.
Мы не понимаем, о чем вы говорите.

Your translator is not very good.
Ваш переводчик не очень хорошо.

Please find someone who can speak English, and have them translate.
Пожалуйста, найдите того, кто может говорить по-английски, и иметь их переводить.

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Posted: 2nd Dec 2011 18:26
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Have you tried Google Translate?
Вы пробовали Google Translate?

http://translate.google.com

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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 2nd Dec 2011 20:16
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You are all assuming that the original Russian (?) made sense.

There are Russian speakers on this site whose posts are perfectly clear. Perhaps one of them could help?
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Not this again...
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I love this guys posts! cracks me up EVERY time!

<3 lots of love, [Q]uik.


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Posted: 2nd Dec 2011 20:29 Edited at: 2nd Dec 2011 20:30
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It would be desirable to specify.=It would be desirable to specify.
Into the account of copyrights.=Into the account of copyrights
How to define that it is possible and that disable.= How to define that it is possible and what is not possible.
Where to look at what ideas under copyrights.=I am looking to know if I can do this under the copyrights.
As with them to agree.=Or if they might agree for me to do it
Here I want to make unpretentious an arcade-simmuljator with space and land actions.=Here I want to make a arcade-emulator with space and land actions.
Preparations while aren't present.=Preparations while aren't present.I am prepared
Here wanted to specify a question.=I just wanted to specify this question.
If not on sale, though for itself.=Cant come up with anything on this one.

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I can speak both English and Russian and i cant understand your translator as well.

Google translator isnt perfect, but can get the job done well enough tho.

Я свободно владею Английским и Русским, но даже я тебя не понимаю. Твой переводчик плохо работает.

http://translate.google.com

Пользуйся этим, он гораздо лучше переводит чем твой нынешний.


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Quote: "I can speak both English and Russian"

Aaahhh, just what we needed. Hopefully we can get to the point of what pavelsv is trying to say now.

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Posted: 2nd Dec 2011 23:47
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Looking at Daniel wright 2311's post it seems that punctuation might be the main problem.
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I agree with my buddy QUIK here too

Perhaps babelfish too?

I loved it when it was Alta Vistas... But now Yahoo....... Ruined it...

Systran is pretty accurate roughly 75% in most common languages...

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We should assign PAGAN to this guy as his personal carer or something.

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greenpavel
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 01:26 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 01:29
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Dear users.
If you have paid attention.
I in the signature have a reference to the translator

But the sense of a post has transferred that?
Or not?

If the person will pass under the signature and translates that I have written. http://www.translate.ru/

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 02:00
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Павел, я лично проверял твой переводчик www.translate.ru и качество перевода структуры предложения с Русского на Английский ужасное. Тебя здесь никто не может понять потому что у тебя получаются отдельные слова не связанные правопорядком и знаками запинания. В инете полно более качественных переводчиков. Если хочешь я могу сам переводить твои посты. Пошли мне текст на Русском на [email protected] и я тебе сделаю Английский перевод когда смогу. Если меня нет то пожалуйста используй http://translate.google.com Он переводит гораздо лучше чем тот которым ты пользуешся сейчас.

For english people- i explained why his translator sucks (i checked it out and it sucks at scentence structure and punctuation translation) and i offered help in helping to translate his stuff to english


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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 02:04 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 02:06
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never mind

my signature keeps being erased by a mod So this is my new signature.
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The Slayer
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 02:15
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Well, I translated his first post to Russian in Google translate, and then translated it back to English, and this is what it says:

It would be desirable to specify.
At the expense of copyright.
How do you determine what you can and turn off.
If you look at it that ideas of copyright.
How to agree with them.
Here I want to make a modest simmuljator arcade with space and ground operations.
Preparation no.
That's like asking a question.
If not available, although for itself.

Hum...it does clarify things a little.

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Quote: "For english people- i explained why his translator sucks (i checked it out and it sucks at scentence structure and punctuation translation) and i offered help in helping to translate his stuff to english"


Good work PAGAN.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 02:57
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one of the problems with english-russian translation is that english has many words that have more than 1 meaning when used in different context and translators sometimes screw up because of that.


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 03:47
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That's a large part of problems with translators in general, word definition by context.

The Panda Bear Eats Leaves and Shoots.

Thanks to Pagan's illumination, I think this is all a grand experiment for a Russian programmer to refine his translation code. Somehow I am less angry now.

We should charge him for using us as beta testers.


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Quote: " We should charge him for using us as beta testers. "


+1

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 04:14
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pavelsv2000dlp, it would be best if you post in both English and Russian so we can use whatever translator we think works best.


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Quote: "pavelsv2000dlp, it would be best if you post in both English and Russian so we can use whatever translator we think works best. "

I agree. +1

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 04:35 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 04:39
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So after reading over the original post a few times over, i think i got the idea of what the question is.

Its about using copyrighted material and content which he can possibly use in his arcade simulator. And where/ how can he find out which content is copyrited or not.

If by arcade simulator you mean classic arcade games like space invaders and games like that, I dont know.

But i can give you a reccomendation that will save you a bunch of headache.

First!, Make your thing you are making and dont worry about copyrights.
Then when your arcade simulator or whatever thing youre making is close to being complete, like if you have all the key content of your program in somewhat working order, Then you can start figuring stuff about copyright of content.

When your program has all of the key features in working order its much easier to replace content and have it modified to avoid any conflicts with the copyrights.

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Quote: "We should assign PAGAN to this guy as his personal carer or something."

did i just get myself roped into something here?


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Just try to make it as original as you can. Don't worry about what it may look like to other games.

Just Try your best.

Просто попробуйте сделать его максимально оригинальным, сколько сможете. Не беспокойтесь о том, что это может выглядеть как с другими играми.

Просто попробуйте как можно лучше.
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 05:03 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 15:44
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Gosh tgcemail keystrokes for russian are weird... anyone else get them?

I wonder what Chinese looks like... curious...

Btw I thought the forums were strict on using roman characters on the forums?

EDIT... argh phone kb...

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Quote: "did i just get myself roped into something here?"


yes


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sorry for the suggestion but chinese translators we don't have at the moment
and the chinese, too, do not know how to write

So I ask you to pardon and forgive me.

translated translator http://translate.yandex.ru/
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@pavelsv2000dlp
that's the most clear sense you have made to date! Glad you got the translator problem worked out.

welcome to the game creator forum.

kezzla

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Google translate is probably the best, because it is perpetually improved. Every time you correct the translator it uses your correction to finetune its grammar, spelling and literal conversions. There are thousands of people out there unwittingly improving it every hour.

I use it to translate my French, German and Swedish dialogues to English. As long as Google are happy to give me a free translator, I'm happy to spend a few extra seconds picking the right translation to improve it. I noticed they've now add the ability to drag the words to change the word order.

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I think, on an English phrase copied from your books too will be indignant, yes?

translated translator http://translate.yandex.ru/
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Kezzla actually no you got that wrong... he didnt make any sense as his translator was wrong in translating my measage

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Quote: "Павел, я лично проверял твой переводчик www.translate.ru и качество перевода структуры предложения с Русского на Английский ужасное. Тебя здесь никто не может понять потому что у тебя получаются отдельные слова не связанные правопорядком и знаками запинания. В инете полно более качественных переводчиков. Если хочешь я могу сам переводить твои посты. Пошли мне текст на Русском на [email protected] и я тебе сделаю Английский перевод когда смогу. Если меня нет то пожалуйста используй http://translate.google.com Он переводит гораздо лучше чем тот которым ты пользуешся сейчас.

For english people- i explained why his translator sucks (i checked it out and it sucks at scentence structure and punctuation translation) and i offered help in helping to translate his stuff to english
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This is how well Google translates PAGAN's Russian:

Quote: "Paul, I have personally checked your www.translate.ru translator and the translation quality in supply from Russian into English terrible. You are here no one can understand because you have obtained individual words are not related to law and order and signs of hesitation. In an Internet full of better quality translators. If you want I can translate your own posts. Send me the text in Russian by [email protected] and I'll do English translation when I can. If I do, please use http://translate.google.com It takes a lot better than the one that you are using right now."


It's not perfect, but I understand it clearly.
Она не идеальна, но я понимаю, это ясно.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 16:28 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 16:31
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seriosly you can actually unserstand that?


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[edit]

Enough to get what's being said, at least. Some lines are awkward, but you can work it out because of the context created by the surrounding text.

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Knock. Knock.
Yes
House brains?
I don't understand you.



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Thats just stupid, rude, insulting and offensive to everyone on this thread... I request a lock before this goes to flame...

Russians were never good at jokes... Goldeneye is a perfect example of this...

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Quote: "Knock. Knock.
Yes
House brains?
I don't understand you."


Gives me the impression this dude is actually a troll.

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It is a joke
Just in a theme

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Quote: "Russians were never good at jokes..."


I would not say that. I am Russian descent (mixed with Polish and Irish) and we are good at jokes.

It's all in the translation...


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Russian accent makes up for the bad jokes.


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The last person to say that Russians have a bad sense of humour lost his life.

Which demonstrates that actually Russians possess a great sense of irony, have the ability to laugh at their own stereotypes and are prepared to go beyond to deliver their humour even if not permitted by law or what is generally considered ethical, which in my eyes is a dedication to humour that is admirable.

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I do belive, that basinn someones HUMOUR on which COUNTRY they live or come from is INSANELY narrow minded and stupid..


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Who both could that and has understood.
It is not necessary to attribute problems of one person to problems of another.
Read the theory about dual dualism. Also will suffice to terrorize me.
Well and if your progressive brain not in a condition to understand the idiot as I then all of us are powerless.
And automatic translators here at anything.

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[Sound of tyres screeching in background] ... [Cars park up outside] ... [Car doors slam...] ...[ Footsteps of dozens of heavy men heard in background] ... [single knock on door] ...

Me ~ who is there...

Strange accent at door... ~ funny man

Me ~ oh I see...

EDIT

...

EDIT

Quik... huh¿

Nobody was being specific on anything...

...

EDIT

Quote: "Read the theory about dual dualism. Also will suffice to terrorize me."


they have got to stop reading this kind of crap its soooooo annoying to hear... I hear it from EVERYONE from Poland and Russia and neighbouring countries... [FIY I have friends from both the above mentioned places so do not think of me as bleak or narrow minded just stating fact, not generalising... love my Polish and Russian/Bella Russian friends ]

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Quote: "Russians were never good at jokes"


how is that not specific?

not saying you were serious or the like, just putting it out there that you shouldnt judge a persons sense of humor only based on where he comes from


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lol Quik thats why I love you...
it was a joke... read the rest of that message...

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but i didnt realize that second line had to do with the first line...


good to know u love me though! <3


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If TGC had a fb lol you would be one of my friends... ponys included QUiK

Have you not seen Golden Eye?

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No I have not, however I do remember an old Xbox game labelled that?


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