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Geek Culture / My Friend Hasn't Got Paid For Two Months

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Sasuke
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 14:52
The title pretty much says it. The company in question is Tesco. I've never heard of a major company not being able to sort out a small matter of pay for this length of time. What is more interesting is that my friends dad is also a team leader their and is part of the Union. So this make no sense why it can't be sorted.

I contacted Tesco for general information, that didn't go down well. Every time I asked a question they accused me of ask about private information about a staff member and threatened to call the police. I said please do, that way you can explain why someone isn't getting paid... they hung up.

My friend has been repeatedly told the matter is being dealt with, this is like for 6 weeks now. So the question I pose is have you ever heard of this and what could my friend do correct this?

Note that I've informed my friend to get a explanation in writing and to take it to citizen advice.
TheComet
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 16:07 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 16:09
Here's what your friend should do:

1) Find out if you're the only one with this problem.

2) Talk to your superior about this matter. Request that you want to know EXACTLY what's happened to your money, and how long it'll take to fix it. After his lousy explanation, tell him specifically that if you don't receive your payment in the next 3 days, you'll refuse to work until you get it, and express your feelings about the matter (for example, point it it's unacceptable, and you can't believe how incapable those people are). Don't be scared to bump him around a bit (not physically ), he's failed and you have the right. If he tells you you are legally required to work, smash down on the table with your fist and say that it's completely illegal that you're not being payed, and you have the right to refuse to work until you get your payment.

3) Talk to your other co-workers about your discussion with your superior and urge them to do the same thing.

4) If you don't get your payment when you specified, STOP WORKING. Don't even come to work. Just call up and say you're "sick". Get your co-workers to do the same.

5) Companies not paying their employees is highly illegal. You are able to start a process against the company that forces them to pay you within a certain amount of time by law. Do that immediately, regardless of what anyone says to you. It's your right, if anyone disagrees and tries to convince you that what you're doing is wrong, ignore them and tell them the above.

6) Start wearing a Tshirt with your companies name on it and the text "WTF" underneath it No don't really do that, the UK is crazy and that might result in an arrest.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 16:21
First off, this is Tesco, a terrible company to work for, just based on those I know what have worked for them.

Secondly, it might even be worth him saying to them, "I am going to consult a legal representative for advice on this issue", nobody wants to get sued and putting it in their heads that your friend isn't going to stand up for their twoddle then it might make them think twice.

Quel
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 17:28
Don't shop at Tesco, don't work for Tesco.

...Or any other places just like that.

I bet most of them even have the same owner at some high level. They were all built to suck out the last penny from the population, don't support it by any means.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 20:48
Tesco know they can just fire your mate and hire a new guy in his place if he complains. Trust me, there's plenty of jobless people like me waiting to take his place.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 21:32
Quote: "I contacted Tesco for general information, that didn't go down well. Every time I asked a question they accused me of ask about private information about a staff member and threatened to call the police."


That bit is correct, you can't complain about that. Would you be happy if I called your employer and asked about you?

Your friend needs to check his contract of employment to confirm he is indeed being paid late. If he is then he should present it to his employer and demand payment immediately, and request reimbursement for any bank charges and interest incurred as a result (he will need proof - bank statement etc). He should also contact Citizens Advice immediately to follow up on his behalf.

Sasuke
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 23:47 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2011 23:48
Quote: "That bit is correct, you can't complain about that. Would you be happy if I called your employer and asked about you?"


But the issue was that I never even asking about a member of staff, just general information that applies to all and they are legally allow to give out. But even a question like "What is the pay period?" somehow was asking about someone pay. The manager I spoke to was ridiculous.

Also the person in question is a she and is quite young, so her standing up to employers I highly doubt.

Great info though guys, I will pass it on
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2011 23:49
I've gone through something simillar myself in the past (slightly different set of circumstances) and your friend needs to keep a level head and not do anything stupid or childish.

Quote: "4) If you don't get your payment when you specified, STOP WORKING. Don't even come to work. Just call up and say you're "sick". Get your co-workers to do the same."


I would advise your friend not to do this as they will be in breach of contract which will make the situation more complicated and could in itself be grounds for dismissal.

If your friend can not resolve the problem themselves then the best thing to do is get them to contact ACAS (Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service):

http://www.acas.org.uk

They can give your friend the correct advice.
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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:01
Quote: "Also the person in question is a she and is quite young, so her standing up to employers I highly doubt."


Does the 'quite young' girl have parents? Could one of them not go to Tesco with her and speak with her manager?

As coffegrunt says, supermarkets are places which can afford to have a high turnover of staff so your friend is in a bad situation.

Personally, I would stop working until it was resolved, as I don't work for free (charity work is different, as I don't expect to get paid).

One of my friends from work was in a similar situation this year, she didn't get paid for a similar amount of time. Then she got a huge payment, with similarly large tax taken out. Double stuffed!

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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:09
if she has a full time job there then i suppose she is above 17 or 18 depending on country (not age, but above that age.. thing) and thus her parents doesnt have much say in it all, they can come with and be moral support but if they were to actually talk to the manager they would most likely be laughed at and he would request her to bring up her own voice.

Atleast thats speaking from how it works in SCHOOLS after the age of 18. Thus iam supposing it should work that way in work life =P


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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:17
Well to me, 'quite young' is not 17/18.

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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:20
not me either, was just guessing considering it SOUNDS like a full/half time job, and not something on your spare time...




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Sasuke
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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:21
Quote: "Does the 'quite young' girl have parents? Could one of them not go to Tesco with her and speak with her manager?"


Her dad is a Team Leader at the same Tesco. Strange right.

Get this guys, I just found out from her that they will pay her what she is owed on the 23rd of December. They have got to be having a laugh!
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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 00:28 Edited at: 4th Dec 2011 00:29
lol at my not reading that in the very first post. Skim reading ftl...

the_winch
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Posted: 4th Dec 2011 14:41
Quote: "Her dad is a Team Leader at the same Tesco. Strange right."


Not really, payroll is obviously not located in the store.

For a company with a large number of employees the payroll department will take some persuading to make an out of period payment. Unless of course the payroll department themselves made the error.

Someone in the store probably messed something up and now they are fixing it the easy way. Someone needs to force the issue if that is going to change. Since her dad works there as a team leader I wouldn't get involved, if she really wanted she could get it sorted.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.

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