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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Making shader maps but they don't appear to be working

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Captain Coder
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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 00:27 Edited at: 28th Dec 2011 03:52
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Hello all,

I have been working on some shader maps (_N, _S) for some of the TGC model packs I have as well as for the Community Modern Pack (CMP) released earlier today. Unfortunately, I can only get the shaders to work for characters; no matter what I do, I can't get them to work on entities. How should I fix this? Picture of CMP crates attached; the one on the right has the bumpent.fx shader and shader maps assigned to it in the FPE. The one on the left doesn't, and I don't see a difference between the two.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 03:09
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Hey CC, if you could post jpegs as posting images that people have to download in order to view is annoying not to mention a violation of the AUP just a reminder mate!

Also, considering those are my crates, could you describe the problem in more detail? As in, does the shader work in certain angles or at some times or just not at all, etc? Thanks.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 04:05
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Anayar! How've you been? Hope finals go well

Quote: "Hey CC, if you could post jpegs"


I was wondering why they weren't showing up! I'll keep that in mind; thanks.

Quote: "as posting images that people have to download in order to view is annoying not to mention a violation of the AUP just a reminder mate!"


Violation of the AUP? Ouch - I didn't remember that. Should probably re-read that to stay out of trouble. Annoying? Absolutely. Thanks for the friendly reminder (not everyone would make the reminder "friendly" ). FRAPS saves in BMP by default; I'll change that.

Quote: "Also, considering those are my crates, could you describe the problem in more detail? "


I do love those crates! A little more detail never hurts, so here we go:

Basically, I set up the FPE as follows:



This does nothing to produce any kind of shader effects, even though the normal map is heavily embossed. I've checked my work here against other entities that have the same setup and everything looks fine on my end.

BTW, attached is a picture showing what some shader maps I made using the same process I used on entity textures look like on characters. The one on the left has no shader; the one on the right does. Looks much nicer I think!

Thanks for the help!
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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 06:44
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You have to name the diffuse map Biohazard_D2.png. Im pretty sure thats the problem

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Posted: 28th Dec 2011 18:38
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Yeah, the diffuse textures need to be named _D and _D2... Let me know if that fixes the problem

Also, the first part of my last post sounded waay harsher than I intended it so my apologies for that

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Posted: 29th Dec 2011 01:24
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Still attaching images... (facepalm)

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Posted: 29th Dec 2011 03:18 Edited at: 29th Dec 2011 20:32
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It didn't work. I know that what I do works (as I did two more characters from MP 1 last night) but it doesn't seem to be working on entities Any other suggestions?

Thanks everyone,
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Posted: 29th Dec 2011 04:09
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Make sure you have
_D
_D2
_I
_N

They need to be either tga or dds I believe and make sure you know if you are using a static or dynamic shader and make sure your model is either static or dynamic accordingly. Email me or post the textures your trying to use (don't post anything that would violate any terms or agreements) and tell me what shader your trying to use and I can try to see why it's giving you issues.
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Posted: 29th Dec 2011 20:51
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@Anayar:

Quote: " the first part of my last post sounded waay harsher than I intended it so my apologies for that"


It didn't come across as harsh to me! No apology necessary

Hey, wait a minute... AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD?

@raymondlee306:

Thanks for the offer!

Quote: "They need to be either tga or dds I believe "


I have the _N and _S in DDS, and I have left _D and _D2 in PNG (MP 12 character textures are in PNG, even the shader maps.) _I is for illumination, I believe, and I don't want these crates to glow - not right now anyway! I am trying to use the BUMPENT.fx shader. This shader is on stock scifi entities that still look li work when static. I also tried making the crate dynamic and it did nothing. _N and _S shader maps attached.

Thanks everyone!
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Quote: "Hey, wait a minute... AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD? "


ROFL

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has this been forgotten?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=187966&b=24

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nice Boot... gosh I hate those animated avatars...

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Posted: 30th Dec 2011 00:21
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It hasn't been forgotten, I just can't get mine to work

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Quote: "nice Boot... gosh I hate those animated avatars..."


me too. unless its cool.

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Posted: 30th Dec 2011 00:41 Edited at: 30th Dec 2011 00:41
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What you want to do is open the shader and look to see if it has an _I or an _S required. In most instances an I is illumination, but in some of the free shaders around the forums it acts as a specular.

Usually what I do is make the _I simply a copy of the _N.
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Quote: "in some of the free shaders around the forums it acts as a specular. "


bumpent.FX uses normal and diffuse maps labeled with "N.tga".

Furthermore, it's a stock shader - the one all of the stock scifi media are assigned, so the rules should not be different for custom media.

Has anyone tried the maps I attached? (The boxes can be found here: The Community Modern Pack (part 1).

Perhaps I should try something like the PS 2.0 shader?

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Captain Coder

Perhaps its something simple as deleting all '.BIN AND .DBO' files after making any changes to your files before testing them with the new changes?
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