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AppGameKit Classic Chat / I think 1-99 IDs for Sound is not enough, there are more than 100 sound effects in "Fruit Warriors".

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halley
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Can AppGameKit support more IDs in the future versions? 1-99 is not enough. We need add more sound effects.

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The Zoq2
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Posted: 11th Jan 2012 08:34
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Can't you use "sound = load sound (flilename)?
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halley
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at the same time ,one sound only can play one time.

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Halley, why don't you use FMOD?

Its very easy to set up in iOS and you won't have problems with mp3 seamless playback.
Let me know if you need help.
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Does FMOD work with Tier1? I'm guessing not....

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Paul Johnston
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I'll increase it to 300, it's just to limit the size of the array which is created at start up. But you can play a single sound file multiple times with PlaySound()
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halley
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@Paul, yes, but I can't play the single sound file multiple times as the same time.

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Paul, 300 should cover it. Any chance we can have individual sound volumes too (even cloned sounds)? That would really help for my Audio Sequencer I'm making...

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Quote: "Any chance we can have individual sound volumes too (even cloned sounds)? That would really help for my Audio Sequencer I'm making"


You can have individual volumes but you can't adjust them once playing.

http://code.google.com/p/agk/issues/detail?id=94&q=volume

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Sorry, that's what I meant Batvink, thanks!

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AnswerMan: No, only T2.
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What API does AppGameKit use when it comes to audio playback? There is surely something we can use that is much better than the current implementation for Tier 1.
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anwserman
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I agree. Being able to play multiple sounds would be fantastic for T1!

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Paul Johnston
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Quote: "I can't play the single sound file multiple times as the same time"


You should be able to, every call of PlaySound(1) will create a new instance of sound 1 and start it.

Quote: "Any chance we can have individual sound volumes too"


Currently there is no way to reference a playing sound. In theory I could have PlaySound() return a unique ID that points to the that instance, but it would quickly become invalid once the sound finished playing.

Quote: "What API does AppGameKit use when it comes to audio playback"


On Windows it uses DirectSound.
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BatVink
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Quote: "Currently there is no way to reference a playing sound. In theory I could have PlaySound() return a unique ID that points to the that instance, but it would quickly become invalid once the sound finished playing."


Maybe it could replicate DBPro, with commands such as SOUND PLAYING(n) so you can check if it has ended. It is extremely useful to be able to queue sounds to play after one another, and to generally know the state of a sound so you can act on it.

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Posted: 12th Jan 2012 16:08 Edited at: 12th Jan 2012 16:10
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Quote: "Maybe it could replicate DBPro, with commands such as SOUND PLAYING(n) so you can check if it has ended. It is extremely useful to be able to queue sounds to play after one another, and to generally know the state of a sound so you can act on it."


Isn't that what these are for?

Quote: "
GetSoundsPlaying( iID )
GetSoundsInstances( iID )

Returns the number of instances of this sound ID that are currently playing or looping. This is exactly the same as GetSoundInstances().
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Obtained these from the AppGameKit Documentation, haven't actually tried them though...

EDIT: Added definition.
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Posted: 12th Jan 2012 17:28
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Almost...but a sound is the resource, it is an instance of this resource that actually plays. You'd need an ID to the instance. I used DBP as an example, but the abstraction is slightly different.

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Posted: 12th Jan 2012 19:26
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Is there still a limit with iOS, giving only 32 simultaneous sound instances?

It's like that on the iPod at least, not sure if it's improved any since then.

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Quote: "commands such as SOUND PLAYING(n) so you can check if it has ended"


That's doable, something else for me to get around to

Quote: "Is there still a limit with iOS, giving only 32 simultaneous sound instances"


Not by my doing. But the iOS version uses OpenAL so maybe that or the iPod hardware has it's own limits.
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JimHawkins
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Is Windows actually using DSound or DShow?

DShow Filters can easily be controlled for volume, pan etc with full mixing.

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Quote: "I'll increase it to 300, it's just to limit the size of the array which is created at start up. But you can play a single sound file multiple times with PlaySound()"


Is this done for objects and other entities types too?

If so, if I am using 1 sound and 1 object and 1 particle, around 299*3 (or more depends on how you sized the vars) memory adresses are allocated but doing nothing special in the app. So why not make it dynamic? Just wondernig.



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Posted: 20th Jan 2012 15:36
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A linked list is slower and takes more memory than an array.


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