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AppGameKit Classic Chat / Is it possible to make an ai (vs computer player)

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kirtn14
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Can I add ai's to apps on agk or is it too complex and hard to do? If its not could someone please point me in the right direction

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Canadian Mark
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AI can be a complex issue as well as physics. They can seem out of
reach except for the math genius. But A long time ago when I tackled my first game with no physics engine like Box2D I came accross a great piece of advice.

Believable vs Realistic

Whenever I get stuck on an issue like AI I break it down to those two components.

Believable:

I'll give you a quick example: If you think about pacman where the ghosts chase the player they are not actually tracking the player or anticipating the player action no intelligence is required. They follow a simple set of rules for the paths they take, but the illusion of a basic form of AI is the effect the player sees.

So when a ghost comes to an intersection it has to make a descion on which way to turn
It could chose random if the player is far away or towards the player if they are close.

Realistic:

If you have ever played a game like Call of Duty some very advanced formaulas are used to set the enemy path, reactions, targeting and so on

My point is that sometimes a simple solution will have the same effect. There alot of threads about AI on the net but for most 2D games they are overkill
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Posted: 8th Feb 2012 11:40 Edited at: 8th Feb 2012 11:41
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Quote: "Can I add ai's to apps on agk or is it too complex and hard to do?"

That depends on what the ai is supposed to do. If you're planning on writing ai for pong then that can easily be done in AppGameKit but if you're planning on writing ai for an RTS then that could get very complex.

So what do you have in mind?

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kirtn14
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I was thinking about an opponent in a car game

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That shouldn't be too hard but what I will say is that if you are new to programming it might be better to start with a simpler game. I personally avoid AI as much as possible just because of all the problems that can occur. I started a "simple" path finding algorithm a while ago and I will try to figure out why it is not working one day if I have time...

What I'm saying is start simple. Even experienced programmers avoid complex AI's unless it's completely necessary.

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JimHawkins
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Quote: " Even experienced programmers avoid complex AI's unless it's completely necessary."


Experienced programmers avoid programming unless it's completely necessary!

-- Jim
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Quote: "Experienced programmers avoid programming unless it's completely necessary!"

Very funny

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The Zoq2
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Quote: "I started a "simple" path finding algorithm a while ago and I will try to figure out why it is not working one day if I have time..."


If it's T1, I would love to see how you made it!
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Posted: 8th Feb 2012 19:43
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An early version is here somewhere, search for AI or free code...

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