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FPSC Classic Product Chat / FPS MAKER DirectX error!

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Ympker
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Posted: 9th Mar 2012 16:22
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Hey when i run fps maker, the free testing version and updated it to the latest one it said i need direct x 10 or higher.
i entered in my windows console "dxdiag" checked my version, i got directx 11....
so it should be way good enough?
why doesnt it work then=?
i got normal fps maker free trial version...
not fps maker x10!!!

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Brendy boy
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Posted: 9th Mar 2012 20:42
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Quote: "so it should be way good enough?"

no, you need to install dx9.c (the latest version) (in case you have FPSC X9)

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raymondlee306
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Posted: 10th Mar 2012 02:37
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That's correct. Direct x 10 and 11 are not completely backwards compatible. You will need to install the latest direct x 9 like Brendy Boy stated. Don't worry, it will not replace you direct x 11, it will more or less just add the missing files. Keep the install handy because as you make games for your friends they will more than likely need it as well.
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Posted: 10th Mar 2012 13:13
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It works now somehow i got it working by doing some direct x stuff
Thank you guys!

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That Guy John
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 08:33 Edited at: 15th Mar 2012 08:39
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Quote: "no, you need to install dx9.c"

NO You DON'T!



<Rant>Never had any other DX version installed on this system since my last fresh OS install. FPSC works perfectly fine with DX11 installed. Always keep the latest DX , drivers, updates to everything installed on your computer. That is a one of my pet peeves, I wish people would stop telling others to downgrade an older version of DX or re-install an older version of DX for some maagical reason....</rant>

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Brendy boy
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 09:19
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Quote: "NO You DON'T!"

dxdiag always shows the newest installed dx version, not the all istalled versions so by looking at that image one can't tell what dx versions you have installed.

Quote: " That is a one of my pet peeves, I wish people would stop telling others to downgrade an older version of DX or re-install an older version of DX for some maagical reason.."

you can't downgrade it, only install an older version alongside the newer one

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Never had any other DX version installed on this system since my last fresh OS install.
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You don''t have to install it. If you installed any software (such as a game) which needs it it was installed silently as a part of install process

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That Guy John
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 10:47
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No games are installed on this computer. I do my OS installs from an OEM disk. Then download and install Direct X directly from here. Which installs the latest version. Which may or may not also include the back dated DX versions. My point is, you do not have to find a specific DX and install it. All you need to do is make sure you have the latest installed.

This really isn't a matter of controversial discussion for me.
It is point blank fact, install the latest DX and FPSC will have no problems with it.

Hardware and driver issues is another case all together.

I really wish they would just add the latest DX as a prerequisite during FPSC install so there would be less chance of this even coming up again.

For those that don't really know computers (not meant as an insult), it is confusing for them to be told to run around and get different versions of DX.

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Brendy boy
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 11:10 Edited at: 15th Mar 2012 11:19
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Quote: "It is point blank fact, install the latest DX and FPSC will have no problems with it. "

Well, there has been a lot of people with dx11 installed and FPSC X9 and X10 didn't want to run until they installed the older versions of dx

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Quote: "Then download and install Direct X directly from here."

Look at the screenshot


Quote: "Which installs the latest version."

It doesn't. It clearly says its dx9.0c and earlier versions

dx11 comes installed with windows and from above link you installed dx9.0c

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That Guy John
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 11:21 Edited at: 15th Mar 2012 11:28
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Reading back on my posts..
Hope I haven't been coming off as harsh or rude..

As for people having problems, if they did in fact have DX11 installed, I am willing to bet it actually boiled down to either other updates they were missing, ie drivers. Or flat out hardware incompatibility. Or maybe even a simple restart after updates and FPSC install.

Any hoo. As said, hope I wasn't coming off as rude.

Ympker,
Could you specify what it was you did to solve your issue so other will know.

Brendy boy,
It clearly states It provides updates to the previous versions. As in, if the old versions are installed it will bring you up to date or if not installed at all it will still bring you current.

Last edit then I am getting back to work lol

Quote: "dx11 comes installed with windows and from above link you installed dx9.0c"

In that.. you are completely wrong. At least not with an OEM disc.

I am tired, but I am not that tired.

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Brendy boy
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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 11:27
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Quote: "Hope I haven't been coming off as harsh or rude.."

you didn't, but the fact is you installed dx9.0c and that's the reason why fpsc works for you. The above link you provided is for dx9.0c. Your dxdiag says dx11 because that version is installed with the OS

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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 11:28
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Quote: "It clearly states It provides updates to the previous versions"

updates to previous versions of dx 9.0c

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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 11:29 Edited at: 15th Mar 2012 11:32
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Edited my above post..

Okay Okay one more link lol

THIS is where I started from to get to the final download page.
Read the description closely.

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@That Guy John :- I wish you stop telling people they don't need direct x9c for fpsc when they do.

FPSC is a direct x9 program and needs the latest dx9.dlls to work, what you are installing is an install that installs all upto date direct x and that includes direct x9c.

Windows 7 has direct x11 but misses the older dx.dll's



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Posted: 15th Mar 2012 16:02
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Quote: "stop telling people they don't need direct x9c for fpsc when they do"


Sorry John, but s4 is correct.
You need to install/update DirectX9 to the latest version of DirectX9. Installing or updating DirectX10 or 11 does not install DirectX9.dll's. DirectX10 and 11 do not have the particular DirectX9.dll's that are required by FPSC and other DirectX9 specific programs. It would be nice if it would.

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Posted: 18th Mar 2012 20:37
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Well okay then, I am wrong. To an extent, I certainly won't try to bump heads with S4 or Brian. I know for a fact they know what they are talking about.

But wouldn't it best for everyone to just link to the installer that I linked to being as though it is the most up to date and includes everything that is needed.

My main point I suppose was for people to just link to the proper installer to update everything. As I said, this is really an issue that should just be nipped in the butt with the FPSC update installers and Direct X problems will cease to exist.

I apologize for any confusion I may have caused for anyone that doesn't know any better.

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Brendy boy
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Posted: 18th Mar 2012 23:51
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Quote: "Okay Okay one more link lol

[href=http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/search.aspx?q=directx%2011%20download]THIS is where I started from to get to the final download page.
Read the description closely."


Quote: "Well okay then, I am wrong. To an extent"


Quote: "My main point I suppose was for people to just link to the proper installer to update everything. "

DirectX 10 is vista only and comes with windows Vista installation so there is no point of making it downloadable. The only way to install directX 10 runtime on non vista machine is by installing the directx 10 SDK

DirectX 11 was Windows7 only and comes with windows 7 installation so there is no point of making it downloadable. The only way to install directX 11 runtime on non windows 7 machine is by installing the directx 11 SDK

so when saying install the directx 9.0c is the same as saying install the newest directx runtime because that is the newest one that is available to download. The other runtime versions can only be installed by installing the appropriate SDK's.

DirectX 11 was made available on Vista with vista sp2 so DirectX 11 isn't Windows7 only but still it's runtime files aren't available for a separate download.

...and thus the folowing statement of your's is completely wrong

Quote: "Brendy boy,
It clearly states It provides updates to the previous versions. As in, if the old versions are installed it will bring you up to date or if not installed at all it will still bring you current."

You can't install Dx10 or 11 on WinXP. If you run that web installer on windows 7 it will say the newer version is already installed (I tried) so the only way to install dx9 on win7 is by installing Dx9 SDK. If you managed to install dx9 on windows 7 with that web installer than you must have some "special" version of windows because i can't and lots of other people also reported the same

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