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Work in Progress / Just another DBPro IDE - jaPROe

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Dostej
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Posted: 6th Nov 2003 10:25
While looking around the new IDE´s I foundthat neither of them make me feel comfortable with. Some are more plain Editors, others have plenty of options and so on. Which one to try...?I thought about what is bothering me most on the standard IDE

So some of the every returning problems where: forgot a ( or ), a next, endif and so on

The other is that the overview over a large piece of code became quit difficult.

And last but not least I have to look back how I typed a var, UDT or function.

So I decided to try to make an other IDE which should assist me with my problems.
I m working on it about for 10 days, so there is not everything working yet....

What it (should) do
Folding: select, while, function, remstart, and give the user the opp to define folding areas.
In line 1 you can see how it works
And the open window shows the options for the highlighting (not fully working yet)

With a "-" after a `the line is used as a bookmark and shown in the bookmark-window. So the placing of bookmarks is not limited to 10 and its a bit more visible

I have no upload-space - so: No Screenies.
But you cansee some screenies here:
http://www.dannywartnaby.co.uk/rgt/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1023;start=0#lastPost

So What do you think about? (Not about if it makes sence..., more the IDE itself)

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Posted: 6th Nov 2003 15:29
i can't because i'm banned, please link the pictures instead from rgt


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Posted: 6th Nov 2003 15:39 Edited at: 6th Nov 2003 15:40
I've re-linked the picture for your edification, Raven.



Not being impolite or anything, but theres nothing really there to make it stand out from the others.


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Posted: 6th Nov 2003 23:15
bah it appears broken... guess i'll just have to check from home ho hum


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Posted: 6th Nov 2003 23:23
Seems okay here - and I'm at home now.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2003 14:18 Edited at: 7th Nov 2003 14:19
Hmm, that right in some way.

But:
I think one thing is that it is fast. (One other IDE runs really slow on the same machine)

An other thing is that you can open as may files as you wish (some limitation from your hardware not mentioned). It can be projects, single files etc.

It widly configurable

It has some nice features like intendate a marked code, userdefined folding areas, creation of keyword-files

Showing the brace-hierarchy and mark bad braces

Every thing for itself is not worth to be mentioned, but all together is not that bad I think.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2003 14:41
When will it be availiable for download?


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Posted: 7th Nov 2003 16:21
can see it now ... doesn't look too remarkable or intuative.
but we'll see


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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 10:37
@TCA
I m struggling with the Highlighting, most of the rest works fine.
I hope that I can release the first beta in about 2 or 3 weeks.

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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 11:46
Fair enough.


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 01:09
Hmm, kinda looks like the standard Blitz3D IDE


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 02:04
just noticed this is a port from the PB IDE you made, i never did get that one working ... or it was the overly complex one i couldn't be arsed to play with.

Well eitherway the results should be interesting


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 09:31
The prob with the IDE ws that there was no help or commet for it. So it took me some weeks till I get it working.
I´m hoping to find time to write a little help for it. So it should be easier to work with. And there are some PB things I throw out. It shouldbe quite useable (I hope so)

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Posted: 13th Nov 2003 15:17
So, a huge part is finished, so I´ll release a first beta (with still al ot of things to do) and I would be happy to find some people to test it and give me some feedback (and hopefully find some important bug if there are any) before continuing.

If there are some people interested, please send me a PM oder post a notice here. Something around 5 tester would be fine.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2003 19:48
I'll test it for you when its ready.


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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 04:59
yeah thats understandable ^_^
put me down as a tester too, be good to test it out


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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 10:57 Edited at: 14th Nov 2003 10:58
@TCA @Raven
Ok, I send you an exe (its made with the included installer. Its virusfree and tested for viruses with Norton AV while sending.)
Its only for copying the files to the right location. No registry-writing or so...
Size about 900k (all inclusive)

I add a readme file, (nearly the same what the installer shows). Please read it, it says something you should not do, and the things i m interested in testing

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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 11:51
I'll look at that later.


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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 19:49
Looks good - wouldn't load any of my projects though (or the asssociated dba files). Has more features than RobK's one (sorry Rob!). Compiling seems quick and syntax highlighting is good.

However, you do need to list the parameters for each command somewhere (or perhaps just above the command itself).


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Posted: 17th Nov 2003 15:42
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Im working on the paramter display. Not finished yet.
Could you send me one of your project-files that doesnt load for testing?

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Posted: 17th Nov 2003 15:47
Okay - I'll do that later.


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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 13:03
Hm, it load without Probs...
Hm, but I loaded it into the folder, where jaPROe is located. If I open it from an other location, it wont.
My fault.

I fixed it. Should load in the next beta without problems

Thx

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Posted: 19th Nov 2003 13:01
Sounds good


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Posted: 20th Nov 2003 10:15 Edited at: 20th Nov 2003 10:15
Any other buggy things?

I posted some new screenies at the longlive rgt-site (link see on top of this site)

(how do you folks manage it to post pics here - where to upload it?)

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Posted: 20th Nov 2003 15:23
No, dont think I found any problems (aside from the non-ability to load projects).

As for pictures, I always upload to my web site and then put in the http line here.

Let us know when the new version is ready...


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Posted: 21st Nov 2003 11:42
I hope after the weekend I can send the beat 2- version to my testers.
Hopefully the first release will be in about 2 weeks.

Till now it turns out well. Some probs... but nothing really torturing...

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Posted: 21st Nov 2003 23:05
hey did you send this to my puffinteractive email address?
just wondering because i've not been able to check it for a while, but should be setting it back up tonight if all goes well.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2003 16:40
Dos, got it all installed and working ... main niggle i have with it right now is that adding a manifest for XP VS support causes some odd things to happen.
PB has built-in support for XP Style, not sure if you've turned it off and thats why or how you've done the controls.

But whenever you open option windows all of the gadgets in them disappear until you put your mouse over them, and on the styles tab it doesn't show the text other than the font and B I U stuff, no colours shown.
quite odd - though for the editor itself, seems stable and fast.

though i'm not to sure about the keyword highlighting, as it doesn't seem to highlight the commands properly ... functions and keywords don't seem to highlight, only the variable words :-| it's all very odd.
And i think TCA has already covered the fact that it has to be installed into the dbp directory as it fails to retain the dbp dir you put on exit.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2003 23:47
if this one is as usable as the JaPBE then I would like to help testing too as I'm using the JaPBE daily (is yours basing on scintilla to?)

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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 01:07
the functions don't seem to get sensed either
it seems to thing that the function command is a type, and wants an endtype there.


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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 10:18 Edited at: 24th Nov 2003 15:27
@Raven
The XP-Skinning option is turned off

@Dreamflower
I hope, that it will be as useable as jaPBe (I use it also daily...)
And yes, it uses scintilla as well

I´m actually working to implement a bunch of funcionality and try to track down some stange bugs. Hopefully I can release a new beta the next day(s). This beta should include nearly all options, some mayor bugs fixed and basically useable. More is the readme...

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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 15:29
I´ll send the Beta2 - release today

If all work well, I think the public release will ne out in about 2 weeks.

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Goo-oh - be interesting to see.


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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 16:22
got it ^_^ ... well be testing it out shortly


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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 16:35 Edited at: 24th Nov 2003 16:41
it still doesn't appear to be saving the dbp directory ...
or rather it saves it in the pref, but does't load in the program and spews up the dbproversionscanner error.

more curiously is you put it into the dbp folder to prevent the search problem and the keyword sensing stops working properly.
Which is weird how it works fine outside of dbp, but inside it ... screws up.


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Still has problems with projects - for example loading a project doesn't load all the dba files.

Compiling seems to work okay, but the executable isn't put in the correct directory. In addition, whilst technically temp\\db_program.exe is correct - it doesn't look quite right...
Concatenation isn't supported, I see...

Looking good though.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2003 18:58
@Raven
I see the problem. I use a DBpro-Path and then add the relativ path... If it is itself in there, strange things happen.. Will work on it

@TCA
I tested it with my project that has 12 included files and it loads all. Strange. Will check it out. Think I have to check the whole loading and compiling thing starting at the bottom...

Hm, I never used Concatenation ( and to tell the truth, I even dont understand what its is... (Shame on me)).

The standard editor wasnt so commented and my english is a bit weak with Concatenation...

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Posted: 26th Nov 2003 09:27
@TCA
There was a bug in the load project function. It loads the main file together with the included. If there was no included files, no mainfile was loaded. Fixed

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