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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Dark Dynamix commands available in U7.62 ?

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Juggernaut
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Hello,

In this update URL for Dark Basic Pro -
http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2000&page=upgrade7-62

it has been stated that - "Fixes and Enhancements
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Support for Dark Dynamix"

Does this mean when I install the 7.62 update - the dark dynamix commands also gets installed too and can use them while coding my game ? Can anybody please confirm ?

Thanks,
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Posted: 31st May 2012 09:38
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Quote: "Support for Dark Dynamix""


Quote: "the dark dynamix commands also gets installed too"


No.

You need to purchase it [DDyn], Support For means you can activate the licence...

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Posted: 31st May 2012 10:29
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Hard Luck
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Posted: 31st May 2012 11:14
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its £38.00 or something at the moment... I doubt it would be free... why do you not buy Dark Game Studio you get DarkPhysics with it which is an older yet still working PhysX plugin it works wonders...

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Posted: 31st May 2012 18:35
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I will eventually buy Dark Game Studio Bundle and Dark AI but I am waiting helplessly for Lee and his team to update Dark GDK with all the commands and features available in Dark Basic Pro and also fix the not working features. Dark GDK lacks the new particle system commands and cloth available in Dark Basic Pro. I wish Mr. Lee would give some of his kind attention to fix the bugs and add enhancements to Dark Basic Pro and Dark GDK (which was last updated two years ago - 2010) apart from giving all his time in developing his new product - AGK.

I do not know if he will do it or not pretty soon .... otherwise I will have to look somewhere else for alternatives - like pure GDK and nuclear fusion - which I am hesitant to adapt - as they are far newer and have not passed test of time well enough.
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Posted: 31st May 2012 18:44
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Dark GDK is a separate piece of development being undertaken by Mistrel and DBpro IS currently undergoing a quick targeted update there is a thread on it... and as AppGameKit is being put down the 3D path later this year, I hope to see DBpro getting more added to it soon... also I will possibly be making the jump from DBpro to GDK for my PC games ventures...

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Posted: 31st May 2012 18:51
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Quote: "DBpro IS currently undergoing a quick targeted update there is a thread on it"


Are you talking about the thread of U77 ? or some other thread ?

Quote: "also I will possibly be making the jump from DBpro to GDK for my PC games ventures..."
..... You know what when I tested dark GDK it proved it can render way far number of polygons and far number of objects per scene with shader effects attached to each one of them without degrading the frame rate.
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Posted: 31st May 2012 18:57 Edited at: 4th Jun 2012 19:58
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Your 3 Most Annoying Bugs

that should be the one...

well I am still new to advanced programming languages such as C/C++ however I am currently picking up Javascript / jQuery and after that PHP / MYSQL and somewhere inbetween HTML5 and CSS3

after which I can begin a proper project in the meanwhile I am working on a tech Demo to experiment with all the various plugins etc...

so yeah get DGS as you get the original GDK with it!!! its free too so hey ho ^^ but you must buy DGS in order to distribute your creations, DGS is so worth it as you get DBPro and GDK licences in one low price package

hope this helps... oh and I have most of the plugins for DBpro ^^ so if you got any questions just ask and i will let you know if I have that particular plugin or not and advise otherwise...

EDIT

fixed link woops lol

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Posted: 31st May 2012 19:06 Edited at: 31st May 2012 19:09
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ok Valentine .... .....

Like you ..... I am also new to C++ ..... I am also trying to pick up those web technologies lately ....

I will be in touch .....
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@Mr. Valentine: -

I have got them cornered in one place - phew ! .... a lot of them indeed. Can you please advice which ones are really useful and which ones are not.

Please also comment about Dark GDK 2.0 version. Does the Dark GDK plugins (created by game creators) work with Dark GDK 2.0 version ?

Have you heard about Nuclear Basic and Nuclear Fusion from the creators of "Nuclear Glory Collision" plugin ? Any comment on them ?

http://www.nuclearglory.com/products/nb/

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Sorry I hate writing in the comment box so I will put my responses in caps so its easier for me to reply...

Quote: "Please also comment about Dark GDK 2.0 version. Does the Dark GDK plugins (created by game creators) work with Dark GDK 2.0 version ?"


AS FAR AS I KNOW MOST OF THE PLUGINS THAT WORK WITH GDK 1.0 WORK WITH GDK 2.0 AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT DONT NEED A SIMPLE 'WRAPPER' THING I AM STILL NEW TO IT BUT I FEAR THE GDK COMMUNITY IS ABOUT TO SHRINK SOON...

Quote: "Have you heard about Nuclear Basic and Nuclear Fusion from the creators of "Nuclear Glory Collision" plugin ? Any comment on them ?

http://www.nuclearglory.com/products/nb/"


NOT A CLUE AND AVOIDING IT LIKE THE PLAGUE IF I AM HONEST

Quote: "Cloud Pack
This pack contains:
- DarkCLOUDS
- CloudWright $87.94 You Save: 20% $70.35"


I HAVE DARK CLOUDS AND ITS NICE BUT HAMMERS YOUR FPS AND SIMUL HAVE NOW DITCHED IT, ONLY GET THIS IF YOU ARE DOING VISUAL SIMULATIONS OTHERWISE THE OVERHEAD ON DARK CLOUDS IS OVERHWELMING... CLOUD WRIGHT I DO NOT HAVE BUT I AM KEEP TO GET IT... BUT ALL THOSE OPTIONS CONFUSE ME... JUST MY IMPRESSION... NO DEMO IS A SHAME...

Quote: "Dark Game Studio Bonanza
This pack contains:
- DarkBASIC Professional
- Dark Lights
- Dark Physics
- DarkBASIC Electronic
- Dark Shader
- eXtends
- Treemagik G3
- Plant Life
- DarkMATTER 1
- DarkVOICES
- DarkGAME Studio
- FPS Creator FREE
- TGC Points x 500 $476.90 You Save: 90% $49.99"


NO IDEA WHERE THOSE 500 STORE POINTS ARE BUT YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE > http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2125&page=bonanza WHERE YOU WILL NOTICE DARK AI IS A PART OF IT...

BELOW I WILL PUT MY COMMENTS TO THE SIDE IN BOLD (ANYTHING I COMMENT I OWN - UNLESS I SAY OTHERWISE)
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Dark AI $44.99 $44.99 < SEE ABOVE!

DarkNet $64.99 $64.99 < I AM JUST GETTING TO GRIPS WITH THIS GET THIS SOON AND EXPERIMENT WITH IT SOONER THAN LATER

Tree Party $34.00 $34.00 < LOOKS GOOD BUT I DONT HAVE IT YET I DO PLAN ON GETTING IT PERHAPS GET THIS AFTER A FEW MONTHS

Dark Source $9.99 $9.99 < PRICELESS!!! GET IT ASAP

Enhanced Animation $29.99 $29.99 < I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING THIS SO YEAH GO FOR IT HOWEVER MAYBE GET IT AFTER A WHILE

Styx $30.00 $30.00 < I HAVE IT AND IT HAS VERY USEFUL STUFF! GET IT SOONER THAN LATER

Unity $20.00 $20.00 < VERY HANDY! THOUGH I AM YET TO PLAY WITH IT PROPERLY SEPPUKU ARTS CAN ADVISE BETTER AS CAN OTHERS - GET IT SOON IF YOU WANT SCRIPTING

EZRotate $19.99 $19.99 < I HAVE THIS AND NOT TOYED WITH IT YET BUT IT WILL MAKE SOME THINGS SIMPLER GET IT AFTER A FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS OR SOONER THAN LATER

Enhancement Pack $25.00 $25.00 < HANDY! I HAVE IT AND HAS A LOT OF USEFUL STUFF

Texture Max $20.00 $20.00 < WELL THIS IS UP TO YOU I DOUBT I WILL HAVE ANY USE FOR IT BUT IT CAN MAKE SOME THINGS EASIER OR LESS COMPLEX

Nuclear Glory $24.95 $24.95 < I AM THINKING TO GET THIS BUT THEN THERE IS SPARKYS WHICH I AM YET TO PLAY WITH BUT THEN AGAIN DGS HAS PHYSX

X-Quad Editor $66.99 $66.99 < IGNORE THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE KIDS

Blitzwerks Terrain $40.99 $40.99 < PERSONALLY GET 3D WORLD STUDIO ITS EASIER... UNLESS YOU WANT THE DYNAMIC STUFF

Dark Imposters $24.99 $24.99 < I MIGHT GET THIS AT SOME POINT

Dark Occlusion $25.00 $25.00 < I HAVE THIS AND FIND IT VERY USEFUL BUT NEEDS MULTICORE

Dark Dynamix $60.99 $60.99 < IM CONSIDERING THIS FOR LATER PURCHASE BUT FOR NOW DARK PHYSICS IS DOING FINE"


DONT FORGET THERES A FEW HANDY FREE PLUGINS ON THE FORUM BUT I AVOIDED THEM UNTIL I BOUGHT DARK OCCLUSION AS IT FEATURES ELEMENTS OF IANM'S STUFF...

hopefully that all makes sense...

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First of all thank you for taking time to help me out and giving your valuable advice.

Quote: "NO IDEA WHERE THOSE 500 STORE POINTS ARE BUT YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE > http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2125&page=bonanza WHERE YOU WILL NOTICE DARK AI IS A PART OF IT..."


But when I add Dark Game Studio to the shopping cat by clicking "Buy Now" button - the DarkAI simply does not show up in the listed products!

Secondly you said -
Quote: "AS FAR AS I KNOW MOST OF THE PLUGINS THAT WORK WITH GDK 1.0 WORK WITH GDK 2.0 AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT DONT NEED A SIMPLE 'WRAPPER' THING I AM STILL NEW TO IT BUT I FEAR THE GDK COMMUNITY IS ABOUT TO SHRINK SOON..."


Are you saying that Dark GDK 1.0 ( the one developed by TGC ) will become obsolete soon and Dark GDK 2.0 developed by Mistrel will take over ? Have you used Dark GDK 2.0 ? How do you feel about it ?
Mistrel claims that all the Dark Basic Pro plugins work with Dark GDK 2.0 - is this really true ? Can you confirm on this ?
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Quote: "But when I add Dark Game Studio to the shopping cat by clicking "Buy Now" button - the DarkAI simply does not show up in the listed products!"


interesting indeed... email the support page here: [send using a presales support]

CONTACT US

I noticed the point in that cart...

Quote: "AS FAR AS I KNOW"


Notice this bit >.<

Quote: "How do you feel about it ?"


I have not used PGDK/GDK2.0 I have GDK 1.0 but I am nowhere near using it yet... but I have mixed feelings at present but will wait for the current issues to be worked out before I jump into it, so yeah I might be getting it in future nevertheless... just need to further develop my abilities...

Quote: "Mistrel claims that all the Dark Basic Pro plugins work with Dark GDK 2.0 - is this really true ? Can you confirm on this ? "


if he claims it, then its what he developes and as he is the developer you can take his word for it... it is a core basis for GDK but I have read recently that he is diverting the base model away from GDK 1.0 but that debate is already in the scope of the dedicated thread for it...

here to help further anytime buddy

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I have sent a pre-sales mail to TGC regarding anomaly ..... hope things turn out good.
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Quote: "hope things turn out good. "



they should be back in today it should have told you how many tickets are in the queue before you... so remember there might be a while but hopefully it will be later today in the day time during the day

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Actually - what I meant by - "hope things turn out good. " is that they do not leave out Dark AI out of the deal!

Quote: "they should be back in today it should have told you how many tickets are in the queue before you... so remember there might be a while but hopefully it will be later today in the day time during the day
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Yes .... I guess they are busy folks with loads of customers like me to handle.

By the way can you please confirm whether light mapping works properly for either Dark Basic Pro and Dark GDk ? Or are there any annoying limitations ?
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Quote: "Yes .... I guess they are busy folks with loads of customers like me to handle."


we just had a massive public holiday weekend which ends oh crap actually they might still be on holiday today I thought its wednesday oh well... you might have to wait for Wednesday as TGC operate on the UK national business structure... Monday [yesterday] and today Tuesday are national Bank Holidays... And yes they have a whole lot of us to handle ...

Quote: "they do not leave out Dark AI out of the deal!"


its on the page, so fingers crossed they let you have it, and then if its a system error they will correct it whichever way it will go... TGC are reasonable folks so dont be too alarmed I hope you linked this thread lol...

Quote: "By the way can you please confirm whether light mapping works properly for either Dark Basic Pro and Dark GDk ? Or are there any annoying limitations ? "


Well funny enough my current project is looking at that but I have 3D WORLD STUDIO Which does Lightmapping very well even transparency... however I am having to look into Real Time lightmapping or another method... so I can not completely answer this at present... But it should be able to be done of course...

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Hard Luck ..... TGC is not giving any reasonable answer to this problem !
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it is still tuesday you can check the status of your ticket have a try

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hmmm ...............
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