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Hannibal
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Boulder type game I am trying to do for fun

Works on 3 of my pcs, dual core intel and AMD
pentium 4

Works on those 3 with win xp , win 7 pro 32 and 64 bit

Doesn't work on quad core intel win7 64 bit :-(

Backdrop and some gfx display, but foreground gfx don't appear, game seems to lock up to


Driving me nuts, tia
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Which version of DBPro are you compiling with?
I know there are some Win7 problems with versions older than the current release candidate.

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You may need to utilise the DEP feature in Win 7 as your newer CPU might feature this and function better than the other two...

Otherwose... Make sure you have similar setups on all systems...

Also on the two other machines are you using dedicated graphics cards and I guess you have an intel i series ... The internal gpu is not the best of chips... Mmm starving now...

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Posted: 9th Jun 2012 12:49 Edited at: 9th Jun 2012 12:49
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Could you post a picture possibly of what it looks like on each computer? I'm not sure if mine is running the way you intend or not. This is what I get (there is no movement or response from the keyboard):


I tried looking at your code to maybe see if it's something in there that could be causing the issue... but to be honest, it's pretty hard to follow. With all the gotos and variable names like 'hhhh', 'hscr', 'hof', 'hd', 'fh', 'h', 'v', 'sz', 'szv', 'sz1', 'hv'& etc. It's really hard to read.

My suggestion would be to firstly give all your variables names that are recognizable and relevant to the data being store in them. I would secondly suggest that you find an alternative to the tons of gosubs and gotos.

I hope I'm not coming across as a code nazi, but I believe the issue you are encountering could be resolved much easier if it was easier to read.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2012 15:48 Edited at: 9th Jun 2012 16:58
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I had answered your problem in your previous thread!

Y U NO READ MY POST?

[yಠ,ಠ]y


remove this from your code:

and use this:


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Posted: 9th Jun 2012 17:00
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Quote: "Doesn't work on quad core intel win7 64 bit :-("


DBP Games work okay for me on this profile, so it's not the CPU.

Quote: "Which version of DBPro are you compiling with?
I know there are some Win7 problems with versions older than the current release candidate."


I agree, check you have the latest update

Quote: "You may need to utilise the DEP feature in Win 7"

I doubt it, DEP is about core Windows executables, and it would have come up many times if it was a problem, all DBP games use the same set of M$ Dlls.

Quote: "...using dedicated graphics cards"


Even though it shouldn't be an issue these days, this can be a problem. Check your drivers are up to date.

Quote: "I had answered your problem in your previous thread!
Y U NO READ MY POST?"


I guess you never want to come off post moderation Mr Handy?

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Posted: 9th Jun 2012 21:31
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Hey BatVink

I thought maybe he is using some mechanism or external DLL that may cause DEP to trigger as its memory access based... Like Tree Magik and Plant Life they require DEP and also DBPro to get rid of the failed to add tPCKto EXE although I also have to tell my amtivirus to ignore the folder too ^^

Hope you are doing good

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Posted: 9th Jun 2012 22:03
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Thanks , still no clue why it doesn't work on the quad core, and other people on here say it doesn't work properly

All the pcs have dedicated graphics cards

seems to not paste the images to the screen in main subroutine "gosub paster"

mrHandy thanks but I don't see how that would affect it, but will try anyway

Can't really release it , knowing it doesn't work on some machines

Here's what it looks like ,on a machine it works on...intel dual core win7 pro 32 bit Nvidia geforce 8400 gs 3.25g ram

DBPro 1.0761 not using any special .dlls

I am not willing to join the argument on goto and gosub...lol
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Quote: "DBPro 1.0761 not using any special .dlls"

That's why it's not working. DBPro requires you to be at V1.077 in order for it to run on Windows 7 SP1. Since you're not using any special DLLs, try upgrading to U77 and see if it works.

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Thought I was on latest update, will try , ty
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Still doesn't work DBPro u77

Same sheet !

Course I might have known that from people trying it on here , duh !

So, we can write programs that work on selected PCs? lol
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NEVER EVER USE GOTO,I THINK THIS IS THE PROBLEM,ITS YOUR GOTO'S ALL OVER. USE THE GOSUB command,THEN YOU CAN RETURN TO YOUR LAST CODE IF NEEDED.


Unlike the GOSUB command, you cannot return from a call when using the GOTO command.


The label can be made up from any combination of alphabetic characters, but
you must end the declaration of the label using a colon(. You only need to use a colon when you are declaring the label, and should not be used when calling the label
from a GOTO command.

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Quote: "I THINK THIS IS THE PROBLEM,ITS YOUR GOTO'S ALL OVER"


Lol, that's a good one ! You think your program compiles to code with no jumps?

Quote: "Unlike the GOSUB command, you cannot return from a call when using the GOTO command. "


lool, mystical !
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Quote: "You think your program compiles to code with no jumps?"


That's different.


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Quote: "You think your program compiles to code with no jumps?"


No jumps? what do you mean,that is what the GOSUB command is for,to jump back and forth to diffrent commands,if you want help,then dont make fun of others when we try to help.Its your program that does not work,not mine,all of mine works on every ones pc,so I would not mock me.

Dont ask for help if you know it all,I was trying to help you,but now,forget it,lol.

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How is you saying a program doesn't work, due to goto and gosub, helping?

I wasn't mocking you, per se, but the goto/gosub debate

Assembly language is all about jumps, and that , after all is what any code is, in the end...

[quote]NEVER EVER USE GOTO,I THINK THIS IS THE PROBLEM[QUOTE]

So, how come it works on some PCs and not others?

If I was popping the stack, then ok,...I am not , and if I was I'd be popping the fricking stack on all the PCs

Not mocking, just telling the truth
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Posted: 11th Jun 2012 04:35 Edited at: 11th Jun 2012 04:36
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If you have goto set up instead of GOSUBs then how is your code jumping back? it cant,this was my point,if I am wrong,so be it,I was trying to help,after I tryed to help,you lauphed at me for it,.

Quote: "So, how come it works on some PCs and not others?"


its your program,you tell me,I did not write your code,you did.

I gave you a idea of what it can be,just to help,nothing else,there is no debate,never was.

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as far as I know GO SUB is the best option and GO TO is somewhat broken

I am out of here before this turns into a flame war... Relax boys

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OK Daniel, ty, but I don't see how you can help if you don't know that a goto cannot "jump back" ...WHat would make you think you CAN help?

I am not having a go at you, and I thank you for trying to help

This problem is one for the developers of this language, who, as far as I am aware (and I am trying to be kind here) have been little help all along, if programs written in DBPro work on one PC and not another, then , as far as I can see, it is their problem

As usual, there is little help from them...
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Quote: "As usual, there is little help from them..."

Have you tried emailing Lee directly? Or IanM?

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Posted: 11th Jun 2012 06:33 Edited at: 11th Jun 2012 06:34
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a goto cannot "jump back,this is what it says in the dark basic pro example,do a goto then look at the help file,it will tell you a go to can not jump back,here it is right here,the help file.



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The program doesn't work on my computer with Windows XP 32 bit. I think there is something wrong with the program conception somewhere. If it takes colours to make a map, then the colours might be screwed up.

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I suppose the colours might well read differently on different hardware, even in the confines of DB bitmap and point commands, so ty

I will have to do some looking into it, will be away for a while tho

Will check in about a week

I would never be expecting a goto to "JUMP BACK"
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Quote: "I would never be expecting a goto to "JUMP BACK""


Nor a togo to "back jump"

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Here's a new one, took out the point commands and loaded the map from a presaved file

See attached, hoping it works on all now

Be aware that is it NOT finished lol
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it worked,its fixed,nice.

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That works now. If you use a colour map as a jpeg the colours will change, so maybe that's what happened.

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yea weird, but happy that is sorted , thanks to all
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Gotos are a perfectly legal way to jump around your code. Problem is, it gets very confusing and spaghetti-like as the program gets longer.

Gosub/return is one way to execute a block of code, then have it return to the place from where you called it. The other way is to use functions.

There are some good tutorials around on this board to do with code structure. I also suggest that you look at the Newbies board - not to patronise, but issues like this are more likely to be addressed in there.

Cheers, and good luck with the prog

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Quote: "
Quote: "I had answered your problem in your previous thread!
Y U NO READ MY POST?"

I guess you never want to come off post moderation Mr Handy?"


What is post moderation?

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Quote: "What is post moderation?"



post moderation is like when you first start here,you can post,but every post has to be approved before it will post.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2012 06:00 Edited at: 13th Jun 2012 06:00
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lol

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@BatVink
Quote: "I guess you never want to come off post moderation Mr Handy?"

I guess Hannibal is just a troll. I gave him solution twice, here and in his previous thread. He is obviously ignoring my posts.

He made 3 (three) threads with same problem.
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=197380&b=1
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=197385&b=1
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=197551&b=1 (this)

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If your solutions worked , then fine
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You had mentioned the Mod thing in that thread where everyone got rabid about mini maps. I mistakenly thought you were talking about becoming a mod. Is why I asked about the moderated posts thing.

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So, back to my original question: Where can I release this game?
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Try this http://sites.google.com/ and go for donation

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