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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Can FPSC link to external exe's?

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robert _988778
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Posted: 5th Sep 2012 11:35
Simple question, can I link to an external app from within an FPSC compiled game. For instance:

Leave a room and enter a car driving level made in another editor;
Use a menu system created with another program

Much obliged for your help
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Posted: 5th Sep 2012 17:18
I believe there's a mod calles "S812 Mod"
just write this in the bottom search
"Infector game" (Without quotes)

"I am the night visitor when everyone is sleep , and when the last light fades"
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Posted: 5th Sep 2012 18:18
Thanks my friend. I found the S182 mod but I am not familiar with the scripts yet as I've only had FPSC a few days.
Am I to understand that I put in a winzone, for example, and link that to a script which contains the lines in the readme txt?
That would be fine (once I work out how to make up the scripts)
Thanks agin
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Posted: 5th Sep 2012 19:05
Mr Illusionis:
I tried that S182 mod but the FPSC program crashes when I try to test the level, with the following complaint window:

Path cannot be found
Path:effectbank\postprocess

I am sure I must be doing something wrong, any ideas?
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Posted: 5th Sep 2012 22:17
S812 Mod here http://www.mediafire.com/?2bd4a44ixn3k6i6

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Posted: 6th Sep 2012 11:44
Yes I know, like I said, it doesn't work
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That error happens when you install the mod on the wrong version of fpsc, make sure that you installed the 1.20 beta 2 or 3 first and then the s812 mod.

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Oh sorry i didnt see your post Robert

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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 12:08
I'm sure some of these mods are great, but I can't get any to work.
Really would like a rag doll death system but everything seems to mess up the generic fpsc in one way or another.
I think I'll stick with the standard program until I understand the pro's and pitfalls of mods a bit better.

FPSC is very addictive, I'm sure I'll get there in the end.
Where theres a will there's a car - and maybe a helicopter.
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Posted: 7th Sep 2012 22:52
I looked in "About" and it says v 1.0.
So thats old right? It only came through my letterbox last week so I should be able to DL a better version off tinternet right?

Seems a bit mean giving me a dusty old version??

OK cheers bud, I really need my own menu interface going in the long run, and like I say, a ride. Can't get that hummer to start and the viking horse and cart wouldn't go down well with my mesh ladies.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 01:33
Quote: "I looked in "About" and it says v 1.0.
So thats old right? It only came through my letterbox last week so I should be able to DL a better version off tinternet right?

Seems a bit mean giving me a dusty old version??"


It has nothing to do with being mean. It is the "start point" that everyone gets. They can't ship a version that may work on some computers and not all of them, particularly with a newer version with additional features that may require specific hardware. Hence, it is easier and less hassle to ship a standard version and let the user choose to upgrade.

The upgrades can be found here.


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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 15:47
I'm not being funny mate, but when I go to the shop fro a new fridge-freezer, I don't expect to get one that's been sitting in the factory for 2 years.
How can you NOT ship the latest version?
Maybe that's how it goes in the game dev world, but I've never been given an old software when the new one is available.

I wouldn't mind, but every time I get a problem, and boy am I getting problems with this otherwise great tool, I'm told "are you running the latest version?". Me being from the old days, I assumed I HAD the latest version since it was sent only two weeks ago. Der. How stupid am I?
I'm afraid there's no excuse for this, especially when nothing works properly. Take today, I find when I import gantries, after a test the text under each part disappears, and the bmp's are too small to see what they are, so I had to make my own widget to tell me what piece is what. Later on I found when I build a scene, previously deleted buildings are still exported in the build.
The program crashes constantly if I make a mistake, like asking something non-explodable to explode, and it crashes if I don't do anything wrong. I've never had a program that crashes all the time and is so full of bugs it makes me itsh..........
Now, before Mr 3D tells me off again, I'm not slating the program per-se, I love it, I've barely left it alone since I got it and I hope to start progressing so I don't have to ask why it doesn't work on this board all the time.
What I'm saying is, if the answer to my woes is being provided with the latest version as standard, instead of old version- very old, v1.0, then why the heck wasn't it provided to start with.
No excuses, and no one said at any time during the buying process that there was an upgrade available.

A poor show.

By the way, if you want some toasted vikings with no legs, I'm your man. I should hopefulle have some nice new ones once this 135MB upgrade downloads, we'll see.

""They can't ship a version that may work on some computers and not all of them, particularly with a newer version with additional features that may require specific hardware. Hence, it is easier and less hassle to ship a standard version and let the user choose to upgrade.""
Yes, it might be less hassle for the vendor, what would be less hassle for me is to tell me that and offer me a different version depending on what kit I'm running. As has happened, 2 weeks and many headaches down the line.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 15:54
I've got a version of Photoshop so old you have to wind it up, it does'nt crash every time I try and load a file it doesn't like or paste the wrong kind of clipboard.
If anyone else is having problems with the text on gantries, here's a viewer:
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 16:12
Quote: "I'm not being funny mate, but when I go to the shop fro a new fridge-freezer, I don't expect to get one that's been sitting in the factory for 2 years.
How can you NOT ship the latest version?"


When you buy Windows, you never get the latest version, unless you buy it within 1 month of the publication of a full release or service pack. So roughly 92% of the time, you don't get the latest version. The same goes for hundreds of other titles out there. In the development world you are always downloading patches and enhancements to stay ahead of the game.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 16:31 Edited at: 8th Sep 2012 16:33
Quote: "What I'm saying is, if the answer to my woes is being provided with the latest version as standard, instead of old version- very old, v1.0, then why the heck wasn't it provided to start with."


As I mentioned before, it would not be viable for TGC to ship FPSC with the newest version. Chances are they would have more people having issues than those that install v1.0 and use an upgrade of their choice. For example, one of our systems cannot run FPSC past v1.17. Why? Due to the hardware on it. So in order for us to be productive and use what we have, we remained in that version. And that was the point I was attempting to make. It is better to ship one standard version and give the user the tools to upgrade if they choose to. I'm not trying to downplay your issues, and can certainly understand the frustration. We've been there and had to "downgrade" our version in order to produce our games. All I am saying is that we as developers have the main tool and upgrades at our disposal to make the tool work for us.

Quote: "No excuses, and no one said at any time during the buying process that there was an upgrade available."


Actually, there is info on upgrades. On the TGC site when you click Create Games >FPS Creator, you end up on the FPS Creator page. Right under the Latest News is the following:

Quote: "2nd April 2012: Upgrade 1.19 is now available fixing a variety of issues and introducing new features."


On the left side, there is Downloads >>Files. Click on Files and that page takes you to more information, including upgrades and tools you can grab.


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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 17:28
OK how about this -

Download FPSC!:

If you have a machine that has x GB ramand x GB processor, start with version 1 and you can upgrade
If you have a machine that has y GB ramand y GB processor try this one.
NOTE!
Bear in mind that this software relies heavily on your system so think about which version is right for you.(you might not know this if you are new to gaming software)

It's common sense. You HAVE to read it BEFORE you download, then you don't forget or have to go back to the website once the problems start.

Now if you had set it out like that I would not have had these problems.

Anyhow, it's done now, I have the latest version (I thought X9 was a seperate product) so I'm not bothered anymore, I've said my peice and I think I'm right. Please remember not everone who wishes to produce games is familiar with all this speed of computer stuff. I don't play games, I'm not a gamer, I don't usually worry about whether my PC is fast enough. I needed to know the information you provided - from the start.

Thanks anyway for explaining, I got there in the end.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 17:38
"In the development world you are always downloading patches and enhancements to stay ahead of the game."

WRONG

Dreamweaver MX
Flash 8
Photoshop 7

Never needed a patch for any -- theyre all year dot and they all work perfectly with the latest sytems
Once again, we are not all experienced gamers or game developers who wish to use this software
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 20:32
Why are you so angry? You yourself said you don't know how to program... And maybe you want to take this to FPSC Script board, I think...

... How would two levels in different engines work? Wouldn't it look just plain bad, or unmatching?
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 20:52 Edited at: 8th Sep 2012 20:53
Quote: "Never needed a patch for any -- theyre all year dot and they all work perfectly with the latest sytems"


Dreamweaver MX bugfix release here

Flash bugfixes, missing files and security updates here

Photoshop 7 bugfix update here


People are trying to help you, once you understand that FPSC has numerous updates - most of which add functionality you never paid for in your version 1.0 - you'll have a much better time making cool stuff

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 21:28
I'm not angry bud, I'm sorry if it comes over that way, I know that forums have a "polite-speak" system going but I'm not a regular user of forums.
I don't know what you're going on about, and I'm not interested, about the fixes, I've been using those programs for years and years and never even thought about upgrading or patching or anything else, they do everything anyone ever needs as they are. I know some people have to have the latest this and that but for me if it works that's enough. As for bug fixes, I've never found any bugs in any of them. Why? Because they make sure everything works before they go to market. Tell me a bug from any of them.
"most of which add functionality you never paid for in your version 1.0 " see now that's just unprofessional. I paid good money for a program that breaks down constantly and has problems in just about everything it tries to do, that's v1. I PAID for that bud. And you're sitting there telling me you've given me a working version out of the goodness of your heart. Tell you what mate, don't bother answering my posts, I don't like your attitude.
I told you I was willing to work with the program because I like it. I don't like you so I won't be needing your help anymore. Thanks
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How would two levels in different engines work? Wouldn't it look just plain bad

If it did I wouln't put it through peoples letterboxes. Take note
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 21:34
I don't mid you sticking up for your employer, but don't make like you've given me anything
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FPSC has numerous updates - most of which add functionality you never paid for in your version 1.0

You've got some cheek mate, ask the 3 foot vikings, who I can't fight because I've got no sword if I got value for money, or Wild west city with no cowboys, or the guns suspended in thin air.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 21:41
Promising program, groundbreaking, addictive.
Pity about the charmless staff.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 22:07
Firstly I'm not staff. Secondly if you didn't install the patches for Flash then you compromised the security of everyone who downloaded your creations which shows total disregard for everyone. Thirdly, the technology didn't exist in Windows or your hardware for some of the functionality you can now download as a free upgrade.

Finally the break you are about to take is no different than anyone else who has exhibited such contempt for a community that has tried to help.

Oh yes, and I'm not your bud.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 22:43
Dude with your attitude you're not gonna get anywhere in game development. Everyone was trying to help you like BatVink but you say his attitude was bad even though you're the only one with an attitude.
So you want get any help from me...

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Quote: "I paid good money for a program that breaks down constantly and has problems in just about everything it tries to do, that's v1. I PAID for that bud."

And you PAID for free updates that add functionality and fixes all the problems you're having. All you have to do is download the file that rolfy linked to and install it.

Seriously, that's all you have to do.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2012 23:17 Edited at: 8th Sep 2012 23:18
Best to just let the OP discover what needs to be done to make the product work for him/her. No point adding any fuel to spark another flame thread. Various help has been provided, as well as ample explanation, links, etc.

As they say... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.


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And if it did drink there would be no room for fish, negating the benefit of teaching them to fish.....or...ummmm....something like that.

Awesome! Its one of those threads.
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"free updates that add functionality and fixes all the problems"

You can't even see why that statement is so wrong can you. Free to fix problems, why thankyou. How about don't send the problems in the first place?

Thanks for the ban btw, do you ban everyone who points out the failings of the software? Your mother must be proud.
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This...
Quote: "everyone who points out the failings of the software?"

is not the problem. This...
Quote: "Your mother must be proud."

is. You'll get it after a while.

Brian.

!retupmoc eht ni deppart m'I !pleH

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Posted: 22nd Sep 2012 18:35 Edited at: 22nd Sep 2012 18:36
Quote: "I paid good money for a program that breaks down constantly and has problems in just about everything it tries to do, that's v1. I PAID for that bud.""


All gamedevelopment environments and engines break down occasionally. Just try UDK and you see what I mean.
Almost every software, game I ever bought required or ran better with some kind of update. Especially nextgen games need fixes that come in gigabyte sizes.
back in the day, even your OS didnt work without constant updates and fixes.
I don't see why you point out that you paid for it...we all did. This is a user community, we didn't distribute or create the software.
Photoshop is an image editor...I never had one that crashed either. However, all my 3D software has occasional hang ups and crashes. It just comes with the trade and you get used to it



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Posted: 22nd Sep 2012 18:45
Quote: "Thanks for the ban btw, do you ban everyone who points out the failings of the software? Your mother must be proud"


That wasn't the reason for the ban, and I'm not going to go over old ground, it's all available above for you to re-read. If you continue to throw insults then you can expect the same. Either get on with the rest of the community or be forever moderated.

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Brian:
"I don't see why you point out that you paid for it...we all did"

I pointed out that I paid for my copy due to the following quote from BatVink:
"understand that FPSC has numerous updates - most of which add functionality you never paid for in your version"
where he explains that I have to download further updates to make the program work, which apparently I haven't paid for.

If you read the whole post you will see that it was that comment which annoyed me, the cheek of such a statement is beyond belief.

They send me a program which they admit doesn't work, then eventually I find out that in order to make it work I must download an enormous patch, and then BatVink informs me that I got that without paying for it. He then goes on to ban me because I was upset by his comments, and now I'm back I've given my opinion that someone should be ashamed for effectively moderating the truth about the original v1 version. You might think it's ok to ship a product to people, which doesn't work and then tell them later they have the wrong version, presumably because you got too many discs cut, who knows why, but I think the way this product is supplied and the headaches you must be causing people for no apparent reason is reprehensible.
And then you sit with your grubby little finger on the red button threatening to ban them from the forum.
That's like giving someone a disease and then banning them from the hostpital.
If you've ever seen the breakfast club think of me as the punk dude getting continual detentions from the teacher.
Ban away Mr Red Button, I can assure you I have much more power over you than you do over me, so don't push me.
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Push the button Mr Batfink and see what comes up next time you google FPSC Problem. Stupid little child.
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Clearly you haven't been able to read the previous posts. You have completely re-interpreted what I said. Yes you get fixes to issues, and you should expect to get those, we've already covered that numerous times.

What you chose to overlook was that as well as the bugfixes, you have dozens, if not over a hundred, enhancements to the functionality. That's what you didn't pay for when accepting V1 as acceptable for the price you paid. Water, bloom shaders, rag doll physics are to name but three major enhancements.

When you signed up to the forum, you agreed to abide by the following policies:

Quote: "3.11 We do not tolerate posts made for the purpose of putting down another forum member, group of members, religion, our company, our staff or any of our moderators, past or present.

3.13 If your message violates any or all of the points above we reserve the right to take action against you. This can include restrictions such as: Temporary or full bans from our forum. IP/subnet/domain/ISP level blocking of access to our forum AND website, including your Order History. Refusal of all product related support. Removal of rights to purchase from our store.

We would prefer that we never have to enforce any of these, so keep your forum activity in check and it should never need to happen.

3.17 Our forums are moderated by both TGC employees and trusted non-paid members of the public who volunteer their services and time for the benefit of the community. By using our forums you automatically agree that they cannot be held personally responsible for any actions arising from these forums. You agree that moderators shall, at their discretion, determine what constitutes a violation of these terms, along with generally accepted netiquette standards, and can take action against those who voilate these rules."


You are clearly flouting numerous rules, and your last statement is an absolute threat to me personally (and is on permanent record). Your ban was enforced according to the policies that the majority of the community manage to adhere to. This is your last warning, if you choose to continue to threaten or verbally abuse me or any other moderator or member of this forum, you will be banned permanently.

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Quote: "Ban away Mr Red Button, I can assure you I have much more power over you than you do over me"

POWER TO THE PEOPLE !
Seriously I can't believe what you're saying . You insulted everyone around here and simply refused their help , yet they still behave nice to you . You keep throwing more trash on people who provided enormous amounts of work to help this community . It's sad to see someone saying "your mum must be proud" in here . This community is by far one of the best I've seen around the whole web , and It's NOT a place for fights and child talking . so you do one of the following just like BatVink said :
"Either get on with the rest of the community , or be forever moderated"
All what you've to do is to show some RESPECT . If that's so hard then that's NOT your place .
I hope a moderator locks this thread because it obviously turned into a flame thread.

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"Almost every software, game I ever bought required or ran better with some kind of update"

That's not the point Wolf. Fact is I was sent an old version which simply does not work. And on top of that it took many desperate pleas on the forum before I worked out that the Update even existed.
Can you give me one good reason why the update is not supplied on the disk? Or that it's not made 100 percent chrystal clear that the program is unworkable without the update?

And why the attitude from Batfink? Am I not entitled to be a bit annoyed when the whole Update thing unravels and I wasted hours of my valuable time with a worthless CD?
I'd suggest if he sits at his desk promoting a product which needs repairing before it's opened he develops a thicker skin.
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Quote: "I hope a moderator locks this thread because it obviously turned into a flame thread."


The voice of reason appears from the mist...locked

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