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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Alternative IDE? Viewpoints?

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Philip
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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 15:58
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I've been vaguely aware over the past few months that various people have had various alternative IDEs in development.

Does anyone have any view as to whether there is yet any alternative IDE superior to the original IDE which DBPro was bundled with? Obviously by "superior" I mean something at least as stable with as many options. I'm not fussed by presentation - mostly I am concerned with stability.

And chocolate, but that goes without saying.

Philip

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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 16:02 Edited at: 11th Nov 2003 16:02
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RobK's one is good - he's adding (or finished) concatenation support. Beavis is doing one in Foxpro, plus a few others.

There will be (supposedly) an offical IDE editor - when is unknown through.


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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 16:27
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Does RobK's one cost actual honest-to-god money? I'm a bear. I don't have money. :-( Its a human medium of exchange which rations scarce resources with huge consumption demands.

Do you think he might accept payment in jam and lunch hampers?

Cheers

Philip

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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 19:24 Edited at: 11th Nov 2003 19:57
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@Philip

Mine (BLUE IDE) is open source and freeware

I am trying to make it more stable at the moment - see my sig (second link) for the beta I uploaded last night.

Toady - Can you try your project in the latest beta (again, see my sig), I didn't have all your plugins installed so I couldn't be absolutely sure that it would work.

Edit: Toady - there is a problem closing your project in the current beta. If you want to increase the speed of the editor, disable Auto Refresh on the Code tab. It will be faster next version anyway.


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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 19:26
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm jammmmmmmmmmm
sorry - which do you use mr. tca?

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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 20:21
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Will do...


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Posted: 11th Nov 2003 20:39 Edited at: 11th Nov 2003 20:45
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The Beta release compiled my project okay, but there is a lot of text for the menus missing - for example there is a nice big space under New Project...

Ah - I managed to get a 'bad image' file.


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Quote: "The Beta release compiled my project okay, but there is a lot of text for the menus missing - for example there is a nice big space under New Project..."


Go through the menus, one should have the words "English" and "Italian" under it, click on English. Assuming there are no language files missing.


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 01:42 Edited at: 12th Nov 2003 01:44
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Still the same - and some of the text in the tabs has gone. In Settings, I've just got Lang.txt. I presume there should be more...


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I get an mscomctl.ocx is missing or unregistered under a fairly recent install of win98se.

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out of all of the currently available IDEs, personally I choose the original.

it might have it's bugs, but its the only one that runs at a decent speed without a super-computer.
and you don't even have to be running windows it use it which whilst i'm rendering on this Mac actually helps me to unwind a bit.


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I cant wait to use something else - the main editor has a nasty habit of using BAK files instead of the original files...


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 13:07
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Excellent! I'm looking forward to the release of RobK's IDE.

Philip

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Quote: "but its the only one that runs at a decent speed without a super-computer."


Mine takes slightly longer to start-up, but once loaded it should work fine. Disabling code info auto-refresh will also fix any speed problems.

Quote: " In Settings, I've just got Lang.txt. I presume there should be more..."


Oh crap... I forgot to include the English.txt and Italian.txt files


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D'oh!

Isn't it amazing that most of the time I can find the really important bugs... I would probably do very well in the Matrix - Agent Smith would have no-where to hide...


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hmm... Mr Kingsley, welcome back. We missed you.


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 18:11 Edited at: 12th Nov 2003 18:20
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Indeed you did...

Could always e-mail me the english.txt file if its too much trouble rebuilding the installer... What makes you think I want to use your editor properly ??


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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 22:44
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I have updated the installer. Just re-download it from the site.


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Posted: 13th Nov 2003 00:09 Edited at: 13th Nov 2003 00:40
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Some various things : Refreshing Data doesn't always list the types, functions etc - you sometimes have to click on another tab and then go back...
Would be nice to search through all included files.
Managed to get a unable to LoadDBAConstants error message during compliation.
The .DBPRO file still gets messed up occasionally, resulting in the program compiling (or some of it anyway), the program tries to start and then exits.
When saving, got an error message 'Index out of bounds'


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Does Rob K's editor fold and unfold functions? What does it/ or will it do over the original in DBpro?
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Quote: "Does Rob K's editor fold and unfold functions? What does it/ or will it do over the original in DBpro? "


Nope. Unfortunately the editing component doesn't allow it.

The advantages over the original include:
- Tabbed interface - easy to switch between files, including those not part of the project
- Code Snippets library
- Integrated media browser
- Listing of types
- Variable listing shows variable type, scope and for arrays, the dimensions
- Function listing shows parameters when you hold the mouse down on a function name. Typing a user function in the code window will also popup the parameters just like normal commands in the usual IDE
- On-the-fly help
- Multiple instances allowed (so you can have several projects / source files open at once)
- More informative compile dialog - shows current compile line no / progress. When you get an error, the PROGRAM TRACE and ERROR TRACE info is shown (so you can track the error even if the compiler reports a wrong line number)
- 4-way split coding view (default IDE allows 2 split view)
- Fully customiseable syntax highlighting
- Other source code extras, eg: Irregular Bracket detection


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