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Phoenix4
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Does any one know where I could find anything on how to program binary, or even how to get started.

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uhh....no. not "no, I dont' know", it's "no, just no."

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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 03:15 Edited at: 12th Nov 2003 03:15
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Define "binary programming"

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Northern Fist
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As in using 1s and 0s to make stuff happen. Frankly, it is impossile to do unless you're 4xs smarter than Einstein AND can input 1s and 0s faster than Japan can create cartoons and video games...

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Tee, hee

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Start with something simple, like:




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The first person to tell me what that code does gets to poke both my aliens in the eyes with their mousepointers.


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Dark Coyote
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Print hello world (thats just a guess)

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I don't have the right tools for this, but does it start something like this?

this is just the beginning. It doesn't make any sence to me. Must of done something wrong...

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LOL!

Much simpler than that...


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Make the computer beep?
Nothing?
Bring about the end of humanity?

(Is it easy enough that someone will guess right, eventually?)

Dark Coyote.

p.s. What happens if u guess wrong but still poke the aliens in the eye with the mouse pointer?
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That code sould leave you with a out.dba file.
Compile and run the out.dba file and out.txt will be the file you need to run.

For some reason it doesn't work, is it my code or a problem with the code tag messing up the data. Proberly my code

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Ya know the guy's obviously a newbie to prgramming,oh well,at least some people told him straight,the rest just used it to feel better.

So many talented OO programmers around,yet the most talented/knowledged are the most unproductive and boasty(sp?)

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@actarus who are u refering to? Phoenix4?
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Pincho Paxton
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Yeah right, programming in binary, yeah. I think that DBPro Patch 6 turns DBPro into a binary language to make things easier! LOL!
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spooky
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Well I tried this:



It creates an exe using decimal values of each group of 8 bits.

It runs but does nothing!

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GOT IT!





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Dark Coyote:Aimed at no one.

I'm wondering what the guy would've gotten on RGT if he posted it there...

Probably a warm helpful welcome filled with :'You'd've gotten so ridiculed on apollo for asking this but not here.'

Get my point.

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Well done Spooky!

I'd started to think I'd encoded it wrong!

Actarus,
I don't think anyone was too harsh on the guy, he asked about coding in binary, which instantly tells us that he does'nt really know what he wants to learn (binary is not a language), and should do some research himself before trying to learn anything. That little bit of binary was to show him what binary was and why it wasn't what he's after - he's probably looking for machine code, but if he does'nt even know that it's called machine code, then he's clearly not ready for it.
If we did'nt have a little fun now and again, we would'nt have any of the entertaining posts that are as important to the DB community as DB itself.

On LLRGT, he'd probably sit, crusty eyed waiting for hours on a response!


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11 was a race horse, 22 was 1 2, 11 1 1 race and 22 1 1 2.

(sorry, thats not binary, but it sounds really good if you read it out load really fast, and you can confuse people )

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

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Well, to be fair, you DID encode it wrong, you were 1 out on each value, so a SPACE should have been 32, but you encoded it as 31

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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 19:17 Edited at: 12th Nov 2003 19:18
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I think it was the question itself, "how to learn binary programming". A better question would have been something along the lines of "What does binary mean?", as he/she obviously doesn't know what it is.
Forums (including this one) are a great place to learn, however, asking the right questions is essential.

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I guess so,maybe he could've made it sound more like he doesn't know what he's asking for but that would've attracted more comments although I have nothing against sarcasm...My guess is,he only wanted info on asm or compiled languages.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2003 19:53 Edited at: 12th Nov 2003 19:55
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Quote: "01001000011001010110100001100101001000000111010001101000011010010111001100100000011010010111001100100000011001100111010101101110001000000011101001000100"




[edit] hmm that didn't come out right though spooky's translator :\

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Real programmers are 90 years old before they finish their first useful application

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there is no such thing as a real programmer ... anyone who knows thier computer history and electronics will know why.

there are no Binary languages out there, however something that comes close in its complexity and just insane-ness is something called
Brainf*ck (yeah that is the name of it)

and seriously you'll need to be on acid or something to get anything out of it, i swear to god


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iv'e actually heard of that lol,

well, im bored tonight, nothing else to do, im going to take a look


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actually, personally, i find this language pretty easily understandable

iv'e found a little tutorial, and within half an hour i actually get how it works. with use of fingers, i can now read a small program made in brainf**k lol

i still can't see how someone could make a *real* program in it though

i only have one problem, and thats the lack of an REM-style command, which you could really do with if you was working with 1000's of bytes.

i found this code as the first interesting thing i've seen in brainf**k:

Quote: "++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[>+>+<<-]
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++<<
++++++++++[>>.-<.<-]
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I'm not a noob, and yes I admit that that code is impossible to program in and i still think that DBPro is musch better I would never in my right mind even THINK of making anything useful in binary. I just thought it would be fun to challenge myself, you know just learn something like all the letters and numbers and maybe how to do something like print a hello world program to the screen. and im still interested if anyone knows a good web site.

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Erm, as pointed out several times in this thread, there is no such thing as a binary programming language.

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hehe, looking back at the post I made, I understand the answering "LOL"... I couldn't have been more... wrong.

*tons of mixed emotions*

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I can tell you how to do Binary Math but i am not too sure what compiles low level things like binary. You can use the microsoft calculater for binary math also.

101 = 5 bytes
1_____2______4
byte__byte___byte

I use the 1 byte then the 4 byte but not the two. I kept the two off.

I hope i did it right this time.

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A short overview of the Binary Number System

The base (or the radix) of the binary system is 2, which means that only two digits- 0 and 1 (representing one bit), may appear in a binary representation of any number. That means:
Opposed to the decimal system, which uses the powers of 10 to represent a number, the binary system uses the powers of 2.
Decimal:
1101 = 1*10^3 + 1*10^2 + 0*10^1 + 1
Binary:
1101 = 1*2^3 + 1*2^2 + 0*2^1 + 1 = 8 + 4 + 0 + 1 = 13

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Well it might look not fun but its better that punching holes in the cards.lol

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I already know all the numbers and letters
all I am asking is for a web site so if any one knows of one PLEASE! let me know. I don't need advice or warnings I very well know what it's about and what I'd be getting into and I don't need other comments wasting room on this post so please just let it go unless you are going to tell me a web site.

Thank You!

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Try www.1000101000100111110101000010101000011001011.com

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lol @ shocks picture.

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lets do animal binary



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Well Phoenix4 you can't code a program with 100010101011.
Let's take an example EB 16 is could mean jmps 40xxxx . I really don't know where it will jump if don't have a debugger .And if EB 16 translate to binary even Hutch or Randall Hyde don't know what is means too.
The best you can learn is ASSEMBLY language , not BINARY programming man ...
Googling for assembly

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Quote: "I very well know what it's about"

You're sure?

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''There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary, and those that don't.''

Sorry, had to post that seeing as how nobody else did ;D.


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I wonder how many people don't get that joke...

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Quote: "'There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary, and those that don't.''"


ah, my old sig

and many others aswell

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Quote: "I already know all the numbers and letters
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Binary is just ...0,1

Those are all the commands!

Are you sure you want to program in just 0's and 1's?


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That one's classic .

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ha, when I saw that I thought he had hex and binary confused.
i think he's feeling a little right about now.



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Quote: "I already know all the numbers and letters"
-I think he was refering to ASCII?
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