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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Discussion on methods to advertise the FPSC: R KS Campaign.

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KeithC
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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 13:58 Edited at: 6th Nov 2012 21:02
Hey guys. We've been wondering as to what other avenues could be approached, to get the word out about the KickStarter Campaign for FPSC: Reloaded. We've pretty well covered the bases around the Community here.

What steps has everyone taken already (make your own list in this thread), and what ideas do you have? Keeping the momentum up is key to moving this project forward.

Remember, every little bit helps; whether it's simply liking the KS FB page, sharing it on your FB page, tweeting about it, or just plain talking about it in various game development and/or game art communities.

UPDATE: I've attached the banner ad from the main TGC Page. You can use this to advertise it on your site(s), or in other Forums (if they allow it) as your signature.

There's also an alternate one here.


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Well I can start here. I have posted it on my Facebook page and have also gone to the local Community College and let the computer labs and game clubs know about it.

Yes I do have a reason for this.
I need to sell games. and getting the college kids involved lets them know there is another avenue available to them other than marriage or farming or selling drugs. So they can help them selves and maybe assist me as well with their Social Media skills.

And let them know that courses in MS WORD EXCEL POWERPOINT usually do not provide a income to raise a family but learning to make games a multi billion industry DOES provide a great income expressly for college age people.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 14:32
You should try to get Rock, Paper, Shotgun and pc gamer etc. to cover it. They often write articles on a variety of games from indy titles to aaa titles and new kickstarter campaigns etc. that would give it a lot of exposure.
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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 14:41
http://www.vaseemvalentine.co.uk/just-spreading-the-word/

That post on my blog alone, is reposted to my Twitter and Facebook, and LinkedIn all at the same time, I shall make an effort to post it every 3 days or so, or at least when I remember...

Might I suggest MegaGames.com ? or is that pushing the barrel a little too far?

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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 14:57 Edited at: 1st Nov 2012 14:59
I belong to a few LinkedIn groups, so will post there.

Meows, I noticed that you belong to LinkedIn as well.

I can also twitter but I'm not sure who all is connected with me.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 15:24
Plenty of great ideas already!

-Keith

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Open a discussion also on my Italian community (5,988 users), I hope you reach the goals.



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Posted: 1st Nov 2012 16:09 Edited at: 1st Nov 2012 16:12
I wrote this earlier and lost it so here's a short cut down version.....

Banners and or info with link through on everyones web site there are quite a few with web sites here all round the various boards I guess. Every link and click is of value. How many TGC users currently have one at their web site?

Banner exchange TGC would need to look at that and if its credible. Free swap with someone who has a web site with some clout or a number in terms of visitor numbers if possible. An exchange for a Reloaded banner at TGC Pages and these forums. TGC may have some connections I dont know?

Search Google for engines and alike and FPSC has been and is nowhere much to be seen as its not well considered or supported in the indie engine world. For instance AppGameKit is on the front page here : http://devmaster.net/devdb/engines. Where is FPSC?

Videos : is Reloaded video on You Tube? if not why not? What about other such video sites? Vimeo etc? is it added there?

Pinning a reloaded image with link if possible at Pin sites may be helpful - they are now popular. e.g http://pinterest.com/

Anyone have links with Newspapers, magazines on or offline that could be used to affect in a getting a mention?

Education. It is said that FPSC is used by some educational organisations of various kinds - will they support it either with a pledge or by advertising with a link through?

Obviously large online communities are good targets but it takes time and much effort to get noticed.

FPSC is not well supported en masse - just does not have a enough of it and its a bit late in the day now to think of that but any and all advertising, links and clicks would help.

Anywhere where FPSC classic is listed or displayed should be updated to a Reloaded link.

Not sure if any of that is of any help at all but I tried with what came to mind at the moment.


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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 02:57
I get a small shooter out on november and I'll include a link to the kickstarter page.

Its a bit late but my releases get usually downloaded a lot and hostet on other indie game sites. Its not much but all I can do to assist.




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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 03:07
I might not be able to do much, but I went ahead made a new sig picture and added a page for FPSC Reloaded on my site with links to the kickstarter page. I also shared it through facebook. I would retweet it on twitter, but I only just started using twitter yesterday, no followers yet.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 03:15 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2012 03:22
Hey, Gamer X nice idea on the sig.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 03:22 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2012 03:23
Yeah sure, anyone can use it.

quick forum code for it


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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 04:00
New siggy

[href=http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tgc/fps-creator-reloaded]
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 12:28
I've done my bit by (maybe naughtily) mentioning the fundraising on the TGC Wikipedia page:

Quote: "In November 2012, the company launched a campaign aiming to raise funds for the development of a new version of FPS Creator called "Reloaded", on crowd funding site Kickstarter."


I haven't actually been able to link to it otherwise they'd ban me, but the page gets 15-30 views per day on average so it might generate a pledge over the month, or at the very least some noise.
uman
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 13:15
TGPEG

Who would ban you from where for doing what?
TGPEG
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 13:21 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2012 13:23
Wikipedia, from Wikipedia. They have this thing about all content having to be encyclopaedic, and not a fairly flagrant advert.

For instance, if I'd started a new article about the Reloaded Kickstarter project and plastered it with links to it and loads of pseudo-marketing spiel about it being a good cause, they wouldn't like that.

EDIT: Oh I see what you mean. No, not banned from here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_Creators

There's the page, just in case Google isn't working or something.
uman
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 14:05
Sorry,

No I thought that you meant banned from Kickstarter
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 14:08
I think wolf's idea for a fpscr adgame is cool, Im gonna try that as well and put it on my turbosquid page.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 17:31 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2012 17:43
Can some one put together a kit that would have images and links I would be glad to put on my site. I am sure many other members have sites that they can post it to.

Dennis

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 17:53
That's another good idea; for now, I've attached the banner ad from the main TGC site page...in my initial post.

-Keith

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 20:37
@TGPEG

What about providing a reference link to properly corroborate the information?
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2012 23:59 Edited at: 3rd Nov 2012 15:26
i posted about it on fragmotion, Realillision and united 3d artists boards. if anyone is a member of milkshape, blender, ect... you could post there.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 01:14 Edited at: 3rd Nov 2012 01:16
Glad to see the pitch video up on youtube!
We can start to embed this in appropriate venues around the web too.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 01:19
Quote: "hat about providing a reference link to properly corroborate the information? "


I suppose that could work. Maybe we could all write a word on the article and they could never catch us all. Sort of like at the end of the Thomas Crown Affair.
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 19:46
Ok this is just a thought or maybe sarcasm a word or two in Program Announcements

he-he

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 20:34
Social Media works best. Also the great advantage is making FPSC Reloaded popular enough to those that haven't even tried or heard of FPSCx9. They may jump on board as well.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 20:39
@TPEG or Groooovy

How did you get the forum description above your avatar to say, "FPSC Reloaded Backer" instead of "user" as mine does?

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 20:42 Edited at: 3rd Nov 2012 20:52
When you select a badge to show, the associated text is displayed. Edit your badge prefs.

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Edit: Added links and info to ExploSoft.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2012 20:43 Edited at: 3rd Nov 2012 20:44
OK, thanks xplosys. I was wondering what that edit link was for. : : DUH :

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Posted: 5th Nov 2012 10:09 Edited at: 5th Nov 2012 10:10
I would suggest an action packed trailer for various social channels (YouTube, Facebook etc.)

FPSC:R could brand itself towards a new set of game developers.

A video with short clips from the very best FPSC currently has to offer and a few headlines that inform people of the easy-to-use system and high quality results that are possible.

I am thinking something that showcases scenes from a sci-fi, fantasy and a modern setting with bond1 charachters and ErrantAI weapons could be an eye opener to many.
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Posted: 5th Nov 2012 11:19
I agree with Scurvy Lobster, a trailer for FPSCR would certainly boost the number of backers,I think the reason it hasn't had that many backers yet is the fact that people haven't seen it in action yet.
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Posted: 5th Nov 2012 12:27
I posted a link on my www.3dfrog.com site. I posted on Facebook as well. I really hope this product happens.

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Posted: 5th Nov 2012 17:07
Quote: "TGPEG: I suppose that could work. Maybe we could all write a word on the article and they could never catch us all. Sort of like at the end of the Thomas Crown Affair."


Not sure if that was a sacarsm or not. In my opinion you are making a relevant claim about something done by the subject depicted in the article. Thus giving a reference to the source of such claim is more than appropriate. A direct reference link to the FPSCR project at KS.com could look suspicious but as long as it doesn't have its own page at TGC.com there's no other choice. However, I don't know anything about Wikipedia's rules and policies on content so probably it wasn't a good idea at all.

Thomas Crown Affair... I don't quite remember it... but I remember Rene Russo...
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Posted: 6th Nov 2012 02:17 Edited at: 6th Nov 2012 02:17
Just posted about this on the Turbosquid Forums, hopefully we'll get some backers from over there!

Also I am gonna pledge soon, I just need some more money first...

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Excellent ideas guys, thanks a lot. I have just blitzed Rick with a few of the ones I can do from this end so hopefully we can action some video stuff soon (I have some out takes from the original video I can mix in).

I also enjoyed the comic strips which highlighted the major flaws in FPSC in a funny way. It would be great to turn those bugs into parodies as a way to promote Reloaded, the product that solves it. Remember the one where the character had sunk 50% into the floor LMAO!!

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Posted: 7th Nov 2012 01:42 Edited at: 7th Nov 2012 01:44
I don't know if anyone else has seen this but I found a press release article on fpsc reloaded today while searching about the internet looking to see if there were any sites who recognized the project:

http://gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/180866/The_Game_Creators_are_Ready_to_Reload_FPS_Creator.php

EDIT: and here:

http://www.highdetails.com/2012/11/05/fps-creator-reloaded/

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 02:28
I'm painting the car and taking it for a quick spin round the country), painted the dog too since he gets out more than I do. Heck, I even took a sharpie to the wife's forehead this morning so she can advertise at work.
These are truly awesome ideas which I got while reading the newsie on the John this morning, hope they give y'all some inspiration for ways to get the message out there

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Quote: "Heck, I even took a sharpie to the wife's forehead this morning so she can advertise at work."


Now I find that hard to believe. From the conversation I had one time with your pleasant wife (albeit brief), I believe it was her that used the sharpie on you.


There's no problem that can't be solved without applying a little scripting.
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Why do you think I am taking a long drive round the country?

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 02:54 Edited at: 8th Nov 2012 02:55
Quote: "Why do you think I am taking a long drive round the country?"


She threatened you with sleeping on the couch did she? LOL

Sorry, Rolfy. I could not help myself. But Cathy is laughing at the moment.


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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 03:07 Edited at: 8th Nov 2012 03:08
Cathy gonna be hysterical with laughter when she wakes up tomorrow with 'RELOADED' in bold staring back in the mirror, the sofa awaits us, you bring the muffins

Seriously though, Keith gonna nuke us for sure when he see's this, then you'll be sorry.

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 03:16 Edited at: 10th Nov 2012 15:16
Quote: "Cathy gonna be hysterical with laughter when she wakes up tomorrow with 'RELOADED' in bold staring back in the mirror"


I doubt that. If anything, she'll stamp "rejected" and carry on with her day.

Quote: "Seriously though, Keith gonna nuke us for sure when he see's this, then you'll be sorry."


No worries. She made him blueberry muffins. Besides, it's all in fun and breaks up the monotonous threads with the same psychedelic, mind numbing "same-same" banners.


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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 03:21 Edited at: 8th Nov 2012 03:24
Oh! so now your picking on my banner?
I will have you know that banner soothes me and relaxes my brain, its been specifically designed to pulse at the same rate and frequency as alpha waves...which your brain obviously don't have or you would appreciate that.....so there

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 03:24 Edited at: 8th Nov 2012 03:26
It needs an "optional alpha channel". And no, I'm not picking on your banner. in fact, seeing all the "same-same" banners made my son break out in song.

"One of these banners is doing it's own thing,
one of these banners are not the same..."


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Ok, since I don't understand a word your saying (my brain is maybe too relaxed), I'm off to pack the milk and cookies for my adventure.

Wish me luck guys

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 10:38
I'm going to call my mate Hancock and get him to draw a "Reloaded" embossed bullet on the moon.

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Posted: 8th Nov 2012 23:35
Quote: "I don't know if anyone else has seen this but I found a press release article on fpsc reloaded today while searching about the internet looking to see if there were any sites who recognized the project:

http://gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/180866/The_Game_Creators_are_Ready_to_Reload_FPS_Creator.php

EDIT: and here:

http://www.highdetails.com/2012/11/05/fps-creator-reloaded/"


that's pretty sweet

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What other sites would possibly get some backers do you guys think? I cant think of any others at the moment...

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Posted: 10th Nov 2012 02:03 Edited at: 10th Nov 2012 03:28
What about this? just found it today:

http://www.virool.com/

more here about it: http://www.virool.com/blog/crowdfunding-what-would-be-the-best-way-to-promote-a-kickstarter-indiegogo-rockethub-or-appbackr-fundraiser/

It basically spreads your video around the net to help promote your kickstarter campaign.

Heres a couple testimonials from their site:







Of course I have no actual idea of how good it actually is but it could be definitely worth a try...

Its only a 10 dollar minimum start of cost anyway, but that is only for a viral video campaign that lasts only a short time, I guess you have to deposit more if you want it to last longer, which would potentially cut into the actual kickstarter...

EDIT: I also just published a ad on my turbosquid product page to attract some more backers from over there as well.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned before, and I know that there is already an FPSC Reloaded video up already, but I fear that we won't meet the 60,000 dollar mark. I can make a video advertising the campaign on YouTube, in which people can share all over (facebook, websites, forums, bookface, face of books). Now, my current channel is in fact monetized. I could monetize the video and contribute all funds gained from views towards the Kickstarter. Maybe that could help.

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