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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / "Learning time"

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DaemoN_v2
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Posted: 13th Nov 2003 23:50
Evenin' Gents ,
Is it fairly possible to learn enough DB Pro in about a year a 1/4, that I could make a decent FPS? Because my district is ordering me Dark Basic Pro soon and i'm hoping to know enough so I can make a pretty good senior project next year. Thanks.

PS. I hope to remake some quake levels, like Dm17 and CTF1

[tT]
CattleRustler
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 00:37
It shouldn't take a fraction of that time to being doing some great fps stuff, but then again everyone learns at a different pace. If you want to make levels like the ones you mentioned you will have to work in BSP, with a bsp editor. For halflife levels there is a program called Valve Hammer Editor 3.4, I haven't dealt with Quake levels but you can edit/make these kind to - if not in VHE then in something else that someone else here will tell you about. Either way download WALLY, it is to manipulate/edit the .Wad files that bsp's use for texturing. Great tool to have.

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Rob K
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 00:47
Yup. Its pretty easy to learn DBPro. But it really depends on what your existing experience with programming is.


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DaemoN_v2
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 02:50
well im "damn good" at VB (sry i dont like judging myself). I fully understand programming arrangment, variables, UDT's, etc etc. I knew i had to use VHE to make the maps, and i figured that'd be the hardest thing to learn.

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thedubdude
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 02:59
I'm also new to Dark Basic Pro and know nothing about 3d game programming (though I've done alot of sprite progamming). There seem to be a dizzing amount of editors and utilitys out there....I'm not sure where to start. Cartography shop seems to be touted as a world builder, should I be starting with that or using some MESH editor or some BSP editor or who knows since I don't really know the difference between these things. I own TrueSpace 5.2 is that good enough? Thanks.
james1980
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 04:30
thedubdude truespace is perfect for makeing levels make sure everything is welded together, plus you can save the .x .

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 04:58
Daemon_V2 well thats great - I am also "damn good" at vb as I program in it for a living... What then was the point of your original post?

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DaemoN_v2
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 16:05
well, just wondering if it takes a long time to learn. Also sorta asking how long it took others to learn. Thanks guys, youve given me some confidence.

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Philip
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 16:43
Hey, I'm just a bear but I still learnt the language in about 2 months. I still get stuck on some issues but, overall, its straightforward.

It helps if you know some basic 3d trig.

Philip

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David T
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 17:01
Quote: "It helps if you know some basic 3d trig."


only really useful for a small number of things such as finding distances

It really does help if you know 3d co-ordinates. But that's pretty easy to learn, once you do you should have no problem.

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