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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 16:13
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well the title says it all really...
i've got something very very important to work on, and i don't particularly want to say much because i know the comments that i'll get for it.

But i need someone who knows the bible quite well and can help me look for a selection of passages that i can use to put together the events of something. ^_^
i know there are a good few of you out there cause of another thread...

just email me, asap cause i could really do with the help before tommorrow evening, have alot to do and only a few days to achieve it in.


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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 16:42
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I'm no Priest, but I might be able to help, depending on what you need, e-mail me the details.


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me too

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Dr OcCuLt
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i do`t now the bible that well but i think put you on to some old texts you can`t find in the bible

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Ian T
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Isn't there an online searchable one somewhere? It's the most marketed, sold and possibly read book in the known history of the world, there should be

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DrakeX
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i've never really read the bible but i've got a searchable on on a CD.

stop looking at me!
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 22:04
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@Mouse

"Isn't there an online searchable one somewhere?"

Yes.

@Raven

http://unbound.biola.edu/

That should be of use to you. If you need further help I believe nuclearglory is quite knowledgable about the bible and may be willing to help you.
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Posted: 14th Nov 2003 22:07 Edited at: 14th Nov 2003 22:18
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Quote: " It's the most marketed, sold and possibly read book in the known history of the world"


I've noticed it's also the most historically correct source in the world today compared to what we know what from artifacts and annals etc.

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i agree with you sonecgaimr1, but that comment is probably going to tick off the athiests here

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Quote: "i agree with you sonecgaimr1, but that comment is probably going to tick off the athiests here"


I am neither Atheist, nor ticked off, but I do disagree with sonecgaimr1's baseless statement.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2003 02:08 Edited at: 15th Nov 2003 02:09
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Well, I'm an agnostic, not an atheist, but that the Bible is historically accurate is stretching it far. There are lots of questions concerning it. Such as 'What is the Bible?'

I don't want to start a religious debate, but there are many religious 'christian' texts from around the turn into the first millennium, but for some reason the conference in Nicea only decided to include a handful of them in the Bible, and that happened somewhere between 300-400 AD.

There's also the schism between the Paulites and the Jacobites, a very nasty conflict about the heart and soul of the new religion. The people that knew Jesus and lived with him belonged with the Jacobites in the Jerusalem-parish, and they saw christianity as a part of judaism and didn't have much of the divine concepts about Jesus. 'Thou shalt have no god but me' is in the commandments and the Jerusalem-parish didn't see Jesus as the son of god, because that would make him a god, and you can't break the commandments because that would mean god is wrong, and if god is wrong... You get the picture.

So, historically, the bible isn't an accurate account of history. It's just faith, and whatever one feels about the bible has to be based on that, and not on 'history'. Scientifically one can't prove anything about the Bible.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2003 02:36 Edited at: 15th Nov 2003 02:36
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Quote: "i agree with you sonecgaimr1, but that comment is probably going to tick off the athiests here"


Quote: "I am neither Atheist, nor ticked off, but I do disagree with sonecgaimr1's baseless statement."


Quote: "I don't want to start a religious debate.........So, historically, the bible isn't an accurate account of history. It's just faith, and whatever one feels about the bible has to be based on that, and not on 'history'. Scientifically one can't prove anything about the Bible."



Oh boy, this is gonna be a long one...


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well do MicroMan you got it. but there where not just 2 groups.
i.e.
nostic:- this meens he how nows, nostic belive that matter is evil and becos god is good he/she/it most be of sprit not of matter there for the son of god most be of sprit not of matter to.there for jesus was not a man he was a sprit. the odd this is this group may data back to 200 BC predataing what ppl think is the start of christianity bay may years.

and this is not the any lee group from 200 BC to 600 AD the face is that what we think of as christianity start more in romen then in holy-land.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2003 03:34
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i don't want a search engine i want someone who knows thier sh*t, because i don't have time to sit there thumbing through possible passages.

need very specific information.
you want to bitch to each other about how historically accurate it is, then make a new thread ... this is specifically for my aid here not some heated debate.

arrow cheers for the offer of help i'll email you as soon as i have outlook working again.

i'm going to try being a little more specific with the help i want, but not enough so i get royal bashing for it.

I need help with one of the stories, or rather the main underlying story within the bible ... the one about the celestial war and the actions of certain angels.

i remember alot of the story myself but there are quite a few blank spots and i'd rather not offend people with my work, want to get this is "biblically" accurate as possible.


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have you tryed paradise lost by john milton. that about the celestial war and is better white then the bible. but do`t snap my head of for saying that.
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Posted: 15th Nov 2003 05:26 Edited at: 15th Nov 2003 05:27
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That deals with revolation, very touchy subject. Revlation makes it's a point to say if a single word is changed, left out, or modifity the one who did will have his/her name removed from the book of life. I may not be Chirstain, but I make it a point to stay on the good side of all the Gods.

Quote: "I've noticed it's also the most historically correct source in the world today compared to what we know what from artifacts and annals etc."
Considering how much possible history it covers, I'm not surprised, how many other books contain thousans of collection of writing gather over thousands of years do you know of?


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Posted: 15th Nov 2003 06:12
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i kinda want as true original source only as possible...
and believe me i'm aware of the risks.

i believe in jehova (yes, i say his name but i'm not a witness) - and i know a great deal ... but the bibles passages are not one of my forté's unfortunately.

but the more i've learnt about a single act, and how it appears to be for me - the more i begin to doubt certain aspects. Not the validity of the existance or thier happening, but how they happened.

"A war and a battle is always written by the victors taking on the bites of history that make themselves impuniable and grave heros."


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id help, but i got work to do

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Hmm, doth thou speak of Morning Star?


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Don't want to be a smart arse, but thought you might like to know that the bible was knocked off the charts the other month. It is now the second most printed book in the history of records-the first being, wait for it...

It's true. Been on telly and Everything. I assume that they're not counting the millions of copies of the Bible created by scribes and monks, and that by "Printed by records" they, really, really, mean it. But there you go.

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only one part of the bible i ever found useful (pulp fiction fans 'ul recognise it"

Ezekiel 25:17

"The path
of the righteous man is beset on
all sides by the inequities of the
selfish and the tyranny of evil
men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
shepherds the weak through the
valley of darkness, for he is truly
his brother's keeper and the finder
of lost children. And I will
strike down upon thee with great
vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy
my brothers. And you will know my
name is the Lord when I lay my
vengeance upon you."


Great passage

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Lol, ah yes, that was a good movie.


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