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Maindric
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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 10:18 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 10:22
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Well, needless to say that I have been investing highly into my computer recently. I plan on upgrading my motherboard and cpu next, and I need an active mini dp adapter, but once I get that, I will be set.

For now, attached is a SS of my monitors.

Warning, contains a large image.

Also, there is a look at the main menu to my teams project.

Specs overall:
3 24" Samsung monitors
2 6870 Radeons
AMD Phenom II X4 945 (Denab) @ 3.0GHZ
16GB DDR3 1333 RAM
Intel 330 SSD 120GB


Any recommendations on CPU / Motherboards?

I was looking at AMD's newest, and I do like them.. I was thinking the 8350 or 8320..

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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 11:50
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What's wrong with your current motherboard/cpu?

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Maindric
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I honestly have not liked my motherboard since day one. The SATA placement is idiotic, the network adapter no longer work, and other small things that bother me, such as no third row of motherboard mounts, and the board is kinda in the middle of the second row and the third row.

The CPU, I would just like to get more power out of it. The odd thing is, I am getting a bottleneck somewhere, and everywhere I look, people with my graphics card, single, not cross fired, are getting better frame rates than what I am getting, and the CPU is the only bottleneck I can think of. Drivers and everything is up to date as well.

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MrValentine
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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 14:04 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 14:05
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Ditch the ATI cards, as AMD is ditching that market as far as I know...

Get a proper CPU, Intel that is...

And, then maybe think long and hard about why it all went wrong ^^

Intel Boards in general are designed very well, mine have side facing SATA ports now and my network cards have not failed me yet, I have heard numerous cases of AMD based boards having network card issues... nothing new to me...

Let us know the actual status of your PC overhaul...

EDIT

Oh and what PSU are you using? keep in mind, it is one of the core most important parts of your system, getting a cheap one is a terrible idea...

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Maindric
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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 14:25
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http://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-ATX12V-EPS12V-Active-RX-850AE/dp/B004M4N01Q
That is my PSU.

My network card busted after USPS got a hold of my desktop, and jogged multiple parts loose, and the damaged tolled to one busted GPU and one busted network adapter. The GPU I warrantied, and the network card I got a wireless USB adapter.

The board is an Asus brand board.

It would be a really dumb move of AMD do ditch their gpu's, as they bought it just a few years a go.

I have had 0 issues with AMD overall, just feel I could use a little more power.

If I go Intel, I would likely go with a high end i5.

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I buy most of my parts from a large reputable company here, people fly in from Germany, just to buy their parts from them... just to give you a bit of perspective on their reputation...

I tried searching for RAIDMax on their site.... 0 results...

And I was pretty sure I had never heard of them but the name did ring a bell... probably SATA RAID...

I think you should take that into consideration, you are dealing with a brand not long standing in the field...

Take a close look at the external links here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAIDMax

Sure 2000, you could say OCZ is younger @ 2002 but 708 Employees compared to the measly 17? over at RAIDMax... I think you need to think about this one...

I am sorry for pointing this out so stressfully, but I was concerned you were putting your very pricey baby at risk with such an underweighted PSU... Personally I use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverStone_Technology Cases and power supplies, but only because they have a reputation and are based where most parts were manufactured...

Alternatively I use OCZ and PNY among others...

But if you are satisfied with the build quality, lets move on

I take PC building very seriously.... it is our livelihoods no matter what way you look at it, hence the serious attitude towards it

Man!, I spent half an hour doing this post XD

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Quote: "Ditch the ATI cards, as AMD is ditching that market as far as I know...

Get a proper CPU, Intel that is..."


Please back up things you say without fanboyism.
My processer is AMD and has served me incredibly well, and AMD have just released a new line of GPUs, so why would they be ditching the market?


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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 14:53 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 14:57
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it is old news, going back to 2010, but they may continue high end production, but the general low end and discrete market, they are ditching... they already ditched old cards driver support when it comes to Windows 8...

EDIT

Just in case it was worth the mention



Not a fan boy, just an experienced user...

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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 14:57 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 14:58
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I bought a mid range card in January, HD6850, so there's that argument gone. And why would a company stopping low end production be a reason not to buy their high end products?

Quote: "they already ditched old cards driver support when it comes to Windows 8..."


No they haven't, they're only moving the catalyst updates from monthly to quarterly on legacy cards.

Quote: "just an experienced user..."


Yet you use Bing and read rumours?


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Good points and good to know thanks

Where do you get the latest catalyst drivers from? I have a hard time finding them...

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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 15:14 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 15:21
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http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx

Automatically detect and install always does the job for me.

I owe you an apology, AMD have indeed dropped official Windows 8 support for HD4000 or less. Sorry! These cards will still work with the drivers that come with Windows 8 however.

That's now void, found this:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/catalystlegacywin8.aspx


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Cheers, will be handy for that other rig I am setting up for 3D work

Back on topic, Maindric - did a little digging, http://raidmax.com/psu/rx_850ae.html

It is an SLi PSU, I always get a bit confused with those labels... does it have an ATI logo on the box [if you remember or still have it...] the AMPerage is pretty good so should be ok...

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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 15:41 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 15:41
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On terms of the PSU, I have had previous experience with RaidMAX, via my dad, and his ran for a long time. I dunno if he just got a new one, or of that one blew, but regardless, it ran for over 5 years or so before he got a new one.

With that, I was comfortable with getting this one. As for the SLI logo, I think nvidia is up to that one, more their name is out there, the more publicity they get, more money they get.

Regardless, I have had no stability issues that usually points to the PSU, just issues with my motherboard.

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As far as PSUs go, I'd recommend Corsair. I've found my unit to be a bit noisy (They've offered to replace it if I paid for the shipping, but no thanks. ) but if you don't mind that, the power is completely stable, no issues at all and it's all very high quality.

By stable power, my old PSU would cut out under load die to low amperage on the 12v rail, but my corsair supply has dual rail 12v at fairly high amps IIRC, and I believe SLI requires dual rail, or at least benefits from it?


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Posted: 4th Dec 2012 15:58 Edited at: 4th Dec 2012 15:59
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I had a Corsair 650 watt, but had to upgrade to support the 2 GPU's. Great PSU otherwise, gonna use that one in my wife's build.

Also, just like indie game makers, how can you grow if people don't try to buy their parts?

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Quote: "Corsair 650 watt"


What series? I have the Enthusiast 750W (TX750) and I'm almost certain it would laugh in the face of two GPUs. I can't say I've tried it though.


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I forget the series, but it only had 2 12V, I need 4. I did not feel like using adapters, and felt I needed more than just 650 watts anyways.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

I believe it would be this one...

On another note, I wake up in 4 hours for work... Night guys!

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Quote: "Ditch the ATI cards, as AMD is ditching that market as far as I know...

Get a proper CPU, Intel that is...

And, then maybe think long and hard about why it all went wrong ^^"


Are you insane? Just ditch 2 6870's? For what possible reason would he even consider doing that?. Also your comment related to the processor is completely idiotic, is a AMD processors not a "proper CPU", the logical, not to say rational solution would be to look at his budget and consider the options from both AMD and Intel to determine which is the best option. Whilst it may be true that Intel processor are quicker clock for clock, with AMD you get a quicker processor (frequency wise) for less. I hate this sort of blatant irrational fanboyism, it has no place here.


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Melancholic - Welcome to the debate, please read on

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Usually hesitant to bash products, but I (and many other people) have had issues with Raidmax PSUs. They are badly made IMO - had one which blew up after about thirty minutes of use (from brand new) - board was mounted too close to casing, warped slightly and shorted out several of the power transistors and caps - end result was not pretty. All of this could have been avoid by placing an insulated cover on the underside of the board.

That was just my experience (although a lot of other people have reported their PSUs blew too). On the other hand, I've had no problems whatsoever with the Corsair series of PSU - would definitely recommend.

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Also, at the moment, I have zero complaints with my PSU.

What I am looking for is what motherboard / CPU would you recommend?

I am looking along the lines of:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285

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I don't think you can go wrong with either of those.


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My last two builds have used Seasonic PSUs, and I'll probably never use anything else.

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Seasonic is good in my books

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Quote: "Melancholic - Welcome to the debate, please read on "


I have, and see nothing that excuses the ignorance of that post


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Quote: "Ditch the ATI cards, as AMD is ditching that market as far as I know...

Get a proper CPU, Intel that is...

And, then maybe think long and hard about why it all went wrong ^^

Intel Boards in general are designed very well, mine have side facing SATA ports now and my network cards have not failed me yet, I have heard numerous cases of AMD based boards having network card issues... nothing new to me..."


Could you please back this outrageous claim with a valid source? All I saw was a code snippet containing a search on the subject done on BING, a search engine who's sexual orientation I consider to be rather homosexual.

Quote: "I tried searching for RAIDMax on their site.... 0 results...
And I was pretty sure I had never heard of them but the name did ring a bell... probably SATA RAID..."


RAIDMax has nothing to do with SATA RAID.

Quote: "I think you should take that into consideration, you are dealing with a brand not long standing in the field..."


The number of employees in a company or do not dictate the quality of the company's products.

Quote: "Not a fan boy, just an experienced user..."


So you've established.

Quote: "Melancholic - Welcome to the debate, please read on"


What does that even mean?

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I feel Intel are superior processors, but for most users there really is nothing wrong with AMD. Especially if you want to save a few dollars.

I cannot comment on the reliability of Intel boards, never owned one. They always seem to lack many features I can get with other boards.


Quote: "I tried searching for RAIDMax on their site.... 0 results...

And I was pretty sure I had never heard of them but the name did ring a bell... probably SATA RAID..."

RAIDMax is a pretty large manufacturer. Just because they didn't show up on some German website or have a low number of employees doesn't mean they're inferior. Reviews of their products on newegg rate them pretty high.

Quote: "Ditch the ATI cards, as AMD is ditching that market as far as I know..."

Then I think you know incorrectly. Your link provided 0 information, and the only thing I could dig up were articles dating back to 2010 about AMD dropping the ATI brand but not the product. Simply put, rebranding their graphics market.


So lets keep this thread on topic please.

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Quote: "I feel Intel are superior processors, but for most users there really is nothing wrong with AMD. Especially if you want to save a few dollars.
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I do agree that Intel is supperior in terms of single core performance, but Intel has nothing that competes on multi core applications. As someone who on average has 15 windows open, one being Unity, PSP, Modo 501, several Chrome tabs, MonoDevelopment, Steam windows, and such, multi core performance is my goal.

To top it all off, the price is better than Intel's offering at the 8350 level.

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I have quite a lot open haha, anyway also I am not in Germany lol

So yeah how goes the build? where is it currently at?

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Quote: "I have quite a lot open haha, anyway also I am not in Germany lol"


Germany?

Quote: "So yeah how goes the build? where is it currently at?
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I will not replace the mobo and cpu for about another month, I need to save up for the parts and a new copy of windows, and the cost of shipping to Korea.

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Quote: "Germany?"


Quote: "RAIDMax is a pretty large manufacturer. Just because they didn't show up on some German website or have a low number of employees doesn't mean they're inferior. Reviews of their products on newegg rate them pretty high."


Maindric - You live in Korea? I caught hint of this previously, asked but you did not reply Insight please

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Lol, remember this thread? http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=198514&b=19

Very last post.

And I see whatcha mean.

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Ah my bad I can remember that... Not sure why I did not reply...

So how is it... ?

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Lol, tis all good.

It is pretty good so far, besides the fact my wife cannot come with me.

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