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Geek Culture / Bring your favorite classics back!

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xCatalyst
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Posted: 6th Jan 2013 19:32
I believe classic games don't quite get the justice they deserve. This thread is meant to honor these games, and bring them under the spotlight again. So, basically, talk about your favorite classics, play 'em/update us on your progress, list them, show pictures/videos of them, brag about them, anything goes here.

My favorites were/still are (No particular order):
-Chrono Cross (PSX)
-Suikoden I/II (PSX)
-Final Fantasy VI (SNES)
-Final Fantasy VII (PSX)
-Resident Evil II (PSX)

To honor them, I'm started playing through Chrono Cross again. Such a nostalgic time haha (I've probably beaten it 5 times now), it's great

Le Shorte
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Posted: 6th Jan 2013 19:51
Quote: "-Final Fantasy VII (PSX)"

I only just got FF7 during the Square Enix Holiday Sale. It was $6 for a digital download of the new PC version. And quite frankly, it hasn't changed my mind about JRPGs

That said, I've been wanting to replay KotOR 1 and 2 for months now. Maybe this will give me a reason to

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Posted: 6th Jan 2013 21:10
Civilization II
In Cold Blood
Final Fantasy VII

Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 6th Jan 2013 21:19 Edited at: 6th Jan 2013 21:41
Quote: "I only just got FF7 during the Square Enix Holiday Sale. It was $6 for a digital download of the new PC version. And quite frankly, it hasn't changed my mind about JRPGs"


I love the game, but I don't quite like how SE managed to handle the rerelease, you have to be connected to the internet to play, you have to log in as well and the cloud saving doesn't work 100% and you don't have the option to save to your HDD. Not sure why SE would be paranoid about piracy with this one, I had the original PC version and it's completely unprotected and I suspect it has been in circulation on piracy sites for years and years.

I suspect it'll run on Windows 8 and modern hardware as well. I know my copy of Final Fantasy VIII does.


To the list, for now I'd addd:
Star Ocean 2 (PSX)
Resident Evil 1 (PSX) - sure the voice acting was horrible, but it was a great game.
Final Fantasy VIII (PSX & PC) & IX (PSX)...they need a little love too.
Cool Boarders 2 (PSX)
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Parasite Eve (PSX)
Summoner (PC & PS2)
Jade Cacoon (PSX)
Vagrant Story (PSX)
Broken Sword 1 & 2 (PSX & PC) - currently playing them again
Oddworld Abes Oddyssee and Exoddus. (PSX & PC)

Final Fantasy XI, it's over 10 years old, so I think it deserves to get a mention. Amazing game, I still play it, the game still has subscribers, there is a new expansion coming out in march. It's still a success, despite the fact FFXIV was such a failure. It is also the biggest grossing Final Fantasy game ever. Despite being an MMO, it still feels unique amongst the MMO crowd - it's sometimes a frustration because SE sometimes make bad decisions on updates and the time sinks can sometimes suck. What I love about the game is not only the fact is has a large selection of job classes to choose from, but they're relatively flexible (giving you room to develop your own playstyles) but the fact they are varied, even the hybrids.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 06:21
Well, I just buzzed through Lego Racers 2 in a day... Fun game!


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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 06:37
EPIC MEGAGAMES, CHAOSWORKS, ELECTRONIC ARTS: FIREFIGHT

The very words of my childhood, firefight is an isometric spaceship shooter which I had a demo copy of on a demo disk for windows 95 (which also included a trial for diablo).
Another title (also in collaboration with epic megagames) that I avidly played was jazzjackrabbit2, which was a comical platform shooter in which 2 rabbits fight various other creatures (the antagonists appearing to be an army of turtles). Rediculous, but amazingly fun (you get a lot of powerful weapons and abilities).

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xCatalyst
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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 12:54
Quote: " It's still a success, despite the fact FFXIV was such a failure."


Yeah I feel you. The newer FF titles need to stop trying to hold your hand so much through them. I know when I played XIII I actually had to stop because I was getting so annoyed. Aah maybe I'll give it another chance sometime, who knows.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 18:11
I still have a soft spot for Dink Smallwood
http://www.dinknetwork.com/?force=1

it was the first RPG that I played and loved.

It had a kind of dark but not too dark humor to it, almost like a slightly inappropriate version of monkey island humor.
The low grade graphics and use of real time text boxes floating above characters made for some hilarious comedic timing.

I think part of my love for it was the fact that the story script files were written in txt files, it was encrypted but not very heavily and in some places you could make out that it was a line of text, we added all sorts of jibberish to these places and then played the game not knowing where or when it would turn up. It resulted in many insanely hilarious and very out of context outbursts.

The music was also midi, so we changed the notes to be out of key and made a "super retarded version" (from the mouths of 16 year olds) of the game.

The game is heavily modifiable and with a little know how you can really push the dink engine in unique and interesting directions.
The first good game mod I ever made was for Dink.

Loads of fun killing ducks and punching mr smilesteins smelly bottles. oh yeah, and saving the world from the creator of the game.

I think I might play it again to reminisce... I might also fire up the txt editor before I do

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 19:02
anybody remember commander keen?


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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 19:33
Funny how this was forgotten already lol

Sepp FFVII you need only log in once, I use offline play at my shop all the time now

Just disconnect, and it shows Continue ^^

Works on Windows 8 like a charm!

I Completed FFVII in December 2012 2 times and to date I think easily over 150 times now...

Final Fantast Tactics about 50+ times love that game too

Sadly never got around to completing Xenogears yet hardly even made it past the first disk I think when I finally get a TV/Monitor I will hook up the PSOne and begin XplayingX Researching

And frankly there are toooo many games for me to mention, most are already mentioned in my other thread anyway...

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 19:40
Quote: "Quote: " It's still a success, despite the fact FFXIV was such a failure."

Yeah I feel you. The newer FF titles need to stop trying to hold your hand so much through them. I know when I played XIII I actually had to stop because I was getting so annoyed. Aah maybe I'll give it another chance sometime, who knows."


I've mostly given up hope by now. I tried giving FFXIII a good chance, I mean I think I've played 50 or 60 hours, but it just isn't right. Literally, FFXI is the last good FF game in the main series for me.

There is a bit that's not so linear towards the end of FFXIII, but the rest is just rails. They tried to fix it for FFXIII:2, but the battle system still bugs me...not to mention, the characters are even more annoying.

FFXIV was a failure because they refused to listen to the feedback from beta testers, so the guy in charge was replaced and basically new people are fixing it for FFXIV: A Realm Reborn, which is meant to fix all the things people hated...even bringing back some of the old job classes from FFXI...which to be fair is a plus point at least. I think SE have managed to recognise what annoys their fans...it's just a question of whether they'll act on them further.

For me, the only new Final Fantasy content I am excited for is FFXI: Seekers of Adoulin, because FFXI is still a damn good game (despite annoyances) and Final Fantasy Versus XIII, the main reason being, it's the Kingdom Hearts folks working on it and not the same people as the current Final Fantasy XIII storyline and they've spent a few years with it in development and I am hoping they're the right guys to restore my faith.

I might try A Realm Reborn when it's out. My gaming laptop doesn't pass the benchmark unfortunately (gets 750, minimum is 1,500), but hopefully I'll have built my gaming tower by then.


In regards to holding your hand through, I feel that's the direction many games are taking. I feel this really should be something for 'easy mode', like Hitman: Absolution, they introduced an 'instinct' feature, which is only present in 2 difficulty settings. So people who prefer the normal approach in Hitman aren't forced into something designed to baby sit you. It was fun trying to find my way through a horde of police officers instead of using my 'instinct' to force them to accept my disguise.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 21:50 Edited at: 7th Jan 2013 21:51
Quote: "FFXI is the last good FF game in the main series for me. "


I'm gonna have to look into it and give it a shot, it sounds pretty promising actually. Looks like a game I can have a lot of fun with (I'm down with MMO's, I was all about WoW and a few others in the past), yet you talked about annoyances. Is it just the SE update difficulties you mentioned or are there gameplay flaws? Just curious for if I end up purchasing the game.

Quote: "In regards to holding your hand through, I feel that's the direction many games are taking."


The game industry seems to be all about trying to make their games super-packed with all sorts of crazy (albeit, somewhat unnecessary sometimes) features, while struggling to make it playable to anybody. I miss the days where you figured it all out by yourself, and when you moved on, you were proud of yourself.

Also, there is such a primary focus on graphical appeal and 'smarts' anymore these days, it's ridiculous.
I don't wanna have to remember 1.6 x 10^24 control combinations for in-game graphical anomalies which would've made no difference to me if they were/weren't there in the first place, and er-go, if they weren't there, you wouldn't have to put your dumb 30-hour tutorial in the game and you can focus on the actual story. (Just my thoughts to developers)

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Posted: 7th Jan 2013 22:35 Edited at: 7th Jan 2013 22:44
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I'm gonna have to look into it and give it a shot, it sounds pretty promising actually. Looks like a game I can have a lot of fun with (I'm down with MMO's, I was all about WoW and a few others in the past), yet you talked about annoyances. Is it just the SE update difficulties you mentioned or are there gameplay flaws? Just curious for if I end up purchasing the game."


There are flaws. SE don't always make sensible choices in their updates, but they can later fix them. The forums themselves are full of constant arguing and pessimism, I would avoid it, most players aren't like that. Sometimes it's not always well balanced, but if you seek to compensate for any weaknesses and not moan about it, you'll do fine. Also, SE do put in some big time sinks, if you're a gear whore, you will spend a lot of time trying to acquire said gear, but it is manageable for casual players like myself.

But the gameplay itself? It is pretty much Final Fantasy in an MMO environment, though very out dated. There's a strong emphasis on story and the storylines are interesting and can be great fun completing. The music is Nobuo Uematsu, so you know it's good. The environments, though dated in graphics quality are atmospheric and you'll find your own favourite areas. The game itself is huge, but it's had 10 years worth of content. The battle system, it's in some ways similar to FFXII, there is even a system similar to quickenings, the animations aren't as epic looking, but they're called weaponskills and you can chain them off of other players to create skillchains and mages can cast spells on top of the skillchains to create a magic burst.

Each job class does feel unique to play, which I think is the main reason I love it. There are hybrids, but SE tries to keep them unique in their own way. So, for example, I've got a Scholar, which is a hybrid of black mage and white mage because it uses both schools of magic...also like a red mage does, yet, it doesn't feel the same to play. A Scholar is meant to be a tactician, as it's the lore behind the job class in the game, so it uses what are called 'stratagems', these will modify your next spell, you can cut its casting time, increase its potency, turn it into an AoE, cut its MP cost and so on. So you're adapting how you're casting magic to your situation. Plus, there's exclusive spells, like helices (which provide heavy DOT) and weather spells, which allow you to change the weather (weather affects spell potency).

Also, your roles in a party are less clear cut, in WoW you might now be used to thinking: that's a tank role/spec, that's DPS, that's Heal. But you don't have your own spec, you can do job combinations (there's a subjob system, where you have a second job class at half the level of your main job class, for example you can be a Scholar 90 with 45 Red Mage sub...so you get access to all red mage skills up to level 45). A Ninja/Warrior is a great tank and so is a Monk/Ninja, but a Monk/Dark Knight is a terrible tank (I tried it) but a great damage dealer.

The system is more about tactics than button mashing and macro rotations and there isn't necessarily a perfect set up or a perfect tactic. A good linkshell (same as a guild) will build teams based on people's skills and plan based on them rather than make them have one particular set up or one particular play style.

Sometimes SE likes to make things genuinely difficult, but in recent years they have softened up a little bit. Still, they're difficult enough to still be fun. The hardest thing you may have to do is beat your level 70 fight (you can't get past level 70 without it), which took me several attempts over 3 weeks to beat. Depending on your job and how prepared you are the difficulty varies (Samurai find it easiest), but it is a solo fight vs an enemy of the same job class and level and they won't pull any punches.

There's actually a LOT things related to the game I can talk about and could make this post extremely long, but it's £10 on Steam with all the expansions, it'll give you 1 month of game time, I would judge it for yourself. Levelling to 99 these days is now a walk in the park, which is a shame to be fair. When I maxed my first job at least levelling up was a more challenging affair. The game is now more about the end game content. Levelling tends to be done in large groups of people rather than solo content. There are levelling camps and they're actually a great place to meet people and join a linkshell.

Which leads me onto one great thing I like about the game, there's a lot more sense of community, people are sociable, friendly and helpful. There's trolls and general idiots as to be expected, but it's still easier to make friends. At least, out of the MMO's I've played I've found it to be the one with the better communities...except the forum. (I hope Matt Rock, a previous TGC president, doesn't read this because he's my guild master in SW:TOR ).

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If you did decide to give it a punt, I'm on the Asura server and could get you into a decent linkshell and would be happy to help get you started.

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When I think of classic I think of TRS-80, C64, or old CGA/EGA MS DOS games. Not Playstation or SNES, for crying out loud !! You're all too young to be talking classic.

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Quote: "When I think of classic I think of TRS-80, C64, or old CGA/EGA MS DOS games."


Finally, someone who understands. Anyone remember the original Tank Wars? I had a 286 setup just for that. It probably would have played on a later model, but that was all I had with a 5.25 floppy drive.

Brian.

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I'm with 'tiresius' too... Classics are games from the 8-bit machines. Not starting with games from the xbox, etc... Real ancient classics...

Mental arithmetic? Me? (That's for computers) I can't subtract a fart from a plate of beans!
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Posted: 9th Jan 2013 12:41 Edited at: 9th Jan 2013 12:42
Quote: "I'm with 'tiresius' too... Classics are games from the 8-bit machines. Not starting with games from the xbox, etc... Real ancient classics...
"


Well, post classics to you. That's the point of this thread, to shine on some of your favorite games/the origins/games that set a course for current games! Not to see who remembers the oldest games.. It's all personal preference though so I mean, anything's allowed

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Posted: 9th Jan 2013 18:08 Edited at: 9th Jan 2013 18:08
Okay... Brian Bloodaxe on the ZX Spectrum 48k...

Actual size: 256 x 192


Mental arithmetic? Me? (That's for computers) I can't subtract a fart from a plate of beans!
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Posted: 9th Jan 2013 19:20
In the beginning we had rocks. No, not that far back I guess. I actually started to game on computers in about the mid 80's, when my girls were getting big enough to play along. I would write them Basic games on my Atari 400, and we enjoyed playing all the different Quest games. When they went to bed, I would stay up and play Leisure Suit Larry.

In a few short years, the girls found other interests (boys) and I invented... I mean found FPS Games.

At first it was mainly games like CHUB where you just walked around in halls until the wallpaper changed and you knew something had happened. Well, not that bad really, but not great. Then something really neat came along. You got to kill people!

You still walked aroung in halls until the walpaper changed, but you got to kill people.

Soon after, some smart people figured out how to get out of the halls, bringing a virtual plethora of environments to explore, and you could still kill people. There were many...

many...

many...

many variations on the theme.

You could even fly!

There were aliens...

and zombies...

and Pharoes...

and Ninjas...

and many assorted beasts.

Then someone invented new and better ways to kill people.


Those are some of my classics.

Brian.

!retupmoc eht ni deppart m'I !pleH

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Posted: 9th Jan 2013 19:27
Quote: "When I think of classic I think of TRS-80, C64, or old CGA/EGA MS DOS games. Not Playstation or SNES, for crying out loud !! You're all too young to be talking classic."


Exactly.

Quote: "Anyone remember the original Tank Wars? I had a 286 setup just for that. It probably would have played on a later model, but that was all I had with a 5.25 floppy drive. "


I remember it, still have it with the original 286 I had.

Quote: "Those are some of my classics."


Great games. Where has the time gone?


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Posted: 9th Jan 2013 21:06
Anyone remember playing Oregon Trail on those old Apple II's w/ monochrome monitors?



Everybody would always die within 5 minutes haha

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c64/silent service
c64/Bards tale
megadrive(genesis)/shinning in the darkness
amiga/ruff&tumble
amiga/chaos engine
amiga cd32/gloom
amiga cd32/fears
amiga cd32/alien breed 3d

Is only an small sample of classic favorites




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Posted: 10th Jan 2013 22:54
Anyone else remember this one?
PSI-5 Trading Company


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Posted: 10th Jan 2013 23:52
I almost forgot my alltime favorit on atari ste



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