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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / How many use Windows ?

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JackDawson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 04:32 Edited at: 6th Jul 2013 16:40
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James H
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 06:10
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I suspect you may have answered your own question - dbp requires windows, this is the dbp board, so users here I would expect to be running windows, that said no doubt some do use other os`s as many devs would, but I can`t see how you would get a true or near true answer as not everyone will post, I also fail to see how dbp users are specific to your poll? What is the relevance of your project if you intend to change languages? Its not that I don`t like what your doing/have done - seems pretty cool, I just fail to see the revelance
Would I be right in saying you have a gripe with the fact dbp is windows reliant? I thought I remembered you posting way back about linux and wine with dbp which is how I came to such a conclusion. If this is the case then perhaps you should consider tgc make money off dbp and many buy it as its a cheap and relatively simple to use product, for my part I did try ubuntu once, and for me this is the crux of it - I really couldn`t be bothered finding solutions to getting all my hardware installed and fully usable, it may be free but all the extra work into getting it up and running just peed me right off, windows is practically automated and I wouldn`t expect end users of anything I might produce to do anything other than install what is provided to them by me onto a system that is easy for them to get up and running(in a lot of cases they don`t have to do anything as their machine will already be set up). Given the easy to use manner windows is intended to provide and that sales for dbp can be gained from folk who arent totally into developing I`d say that perhaps its plausable there isnt anywhere near as much money to be gained from supporting linux
Now if I have got all that totaly wrong then please accept my unreserved apology
I just feel that either you need to start a WIP or at least explain why you need to know how many use other os`s or why we need the screenshots;
Quote: " Here is why I am asking, with the help of a few plugins, I am making this game, using DarkBasic Pro as my Demo IDE tool. Eventually I will be making this game with a much more versatile language since DBP is windows only."

This doesn`t really explain much at all about why your asking, it just states your making an IDE with dbp and the game will be in another language
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 14:48 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 15:02
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Hey thanks for the reply. You answered the question yourself.

Quote: "my part I did try ubuntu once"


The reason this post is here, is exactly as you posted. I am trying to gain information on which OS is used the most. Believe it or not, I see posts all over the internet about people who wanted to use DBP but can't because they are not on windows. So I thought I would post this here to see how many others come here that are not on windows. There are people who are forced to use windows, that would rather use another OS, just so they can make their game and play it. What if they want to play my game on their own OS other then windows ? This is another reason why I am asking.

Quote: "it just states your making an IDE with dbp"


I never said I was making an IDE. I said I am using DBP as my Demo IDE Tool. Meaning, I plan on making this in another language if there is an overwhelming response that a lot of people are not on windows. Otherwise, I'll finish this with DBP and I'll be done with it. And with my previous answer, they can see that I am working on the game and not just blowing smoke here. That is why I posted the pictures. It's a proof of concept and people respond to what they see better then to what they read.

Quote: "either you need to start a WIP"

The reason I did not post this in the WIP section is because they have rules for posting there that I doubt I fit the criteria for. So I posted it here under a section of the forum that I am allowed to post in.


Thanks for the response though. I appreciate it.

Jack
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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 15:11
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99% of people should be on windows.

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JackDawson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 16:19 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 16:25
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Quote: "99% of people should be on windows."


Sad part, I used to think this way as well. I'm lately finding out different. So far, the response I have gotten back on other forums is that there are many MAC and Linux users out there that can't play this kind of game because no one has made a game like this for their OS yet. When I read through, its an even amount of people across all three OSes that are responding.

I am getting a lot of feedback which is telling me that I might not be able to stick with DBP much longer. I might look into AppGameKit Version 2 though because it will be cross platform and allow 3D. This is another reason I am posting here... to see if its worth it to me to buy AppGameKit Version 2. So far, it's looking like it is. Time will tell.
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 16:33
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Quote: " So far, the response I have gotten back on other forums is that there are many MAC and Linux users out there that can't play this kind of game because no one has made a game like this for their OS yet. When I read through, its an even amount of people across all three OSes that are responding."


That sentence contains a contradiction. Nobody is making games for those OS because most people are on Windows. An even amount of people are responding, because you are on the forum that those people are members of. It's pretty obvious if you think about it that if there were an even amount of people on all three systems then the games would be even on all 3 systems.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 18:31 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 18:47
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Quote: "That sentence contains a contradiction. Nobody is making games for those OS because most people are on Windows."


Its actually not a contradiction. Sure most people are on windows, or are they ? Keep in mind, for a lot of people to play "windows games" they have to install windows as a secondary OS on a separate partition. Even if they use MAC as their main OS. Looking up internet Statistics does not show the correct information here because of this.

One example is the Minecraft game, which is cross platform compatible. From what I have read on the MC forums is that there is a 3rd of that population of users that use MAC. And they would play more games under their chosen OS if the games were available to them, like Minecraft is.

Same thing with the game :Wurm Online. A lot of MAC users play that game, WHY ? because someone actually made it so that it can run on their OS.

Bottom line is, windows as the number 1 operating system is not something to count on anymore. Even Linux users are coming out of the wood work do to Ubuntu gaining popularity.

Another good example as I am recently finding out is The Gamecreators themselves have stopped working on DBP to work on their new project -- > AppGameKit ( http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tgc/app-game-kit-v2 ). This allows cross compatibility so that other OSes can run games made with it. DBP is windows only. TGC recognizes this fact which is why they stopped progression of DBP.

So times are changing.
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 18:54 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 19:23
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I don't get to the same conclusion from your information.

Actually the percentage is on the internet, and it's just like I thought it was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 19:53 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 19:54
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As I mentioned earlier, people install a windows OS on their computers as a second Operating System so they can play games. So you can't go by internet statistics. ALSO, anyone can alter the wiki to suit their needs, so I don't always rely on this information.
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 20:00 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 21:03
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If you have Windows to play games you are contradicting yourself by making games not for Windows to cater for people who do not have Windows. Your logic is completely flawed.

Quote: "The reason this post is here, is exactly as you posted. I am trying to gain information on which OS is used the most."


Which includes people who have Windows just for games.

Quote: "I have gotten back on other forums is that there are many MAC and Linux users out there that can't play this kind of game because no one has made a game like this for their OS yet."


See all of the about turns? You switch direction for each reply, so that no reply from anyone is ever right.

Quote: "As I mentioned earlier, people install a windows OS on their computers as a second Operating System so they can play games."


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I have a mac strictly as a pro tools machine. I wouldn't ever try to use it for anything else though, as I hate mac's. Who own's mac's? Trendy people, mostly college students in my experience, and if I was you I wouldn't cater to them.

http://mattsmith.carbonmade.com/
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Posted: 26th Jun 2013 21:58 Edited at: 26th Jun 2013 22:10
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If you take away all the buisinesses that use windows, there goes a TON of windows user statistics right there. If you take away people who do not play games on windows, there goes a ton of other people.

Point is, this thread is about gamers, not how many users of windows. Its not a contradiction. In fact, I'm narrowing down the playing field so to speak. Trying to find out how many GAMERS out there use windows, mac, or Linux.

From all the forum threads, I have set up a poll to have people respond. It's an even number of gamers between MAC and Windows. Linux users are a small group. So far.

I am seeing that I will have to make my game outside of DBPro, which is what this thread is pushing me toward. Too many users of iPad, Andriod and MAC want to play a game like this.

Thanks for the feedback and comments guys. I'll take your words into consideration.
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