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Daniel TGC
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Posted: 4th Aug 2013 05:06 Edited at: 4th Aug 2013 17:53
A bit of history for you guys starting with Microsoft Windows 1.01



This image demonstrates the developmental history of Microsoft Windows.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2013 15:28 Edited at: 4th Aug 2013 15:33
A painful reminder of the days when I preferred DOS.

I see Notepad was there too.



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Posted: 4th Aug 2013 16:46
Quote: "I preferred DOS"


I was probably wearing nappies when 1.0 came out, but I had a preference for DOS when using Windows 3.0.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2013 17:31
Windows 2.03 for 286 PC's



I didn't cover this in the last video because I didn't notice. But the biggest improvement with 2.x over 1.x is that windows could overlap, with 1.01 you could resize windows by dragging and place them side by side (much like Samsung does on android, and Windows 8 does with metro apps (I refused to stop calling them metro apps)).
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Posted: 5th Aug 2013 00:05 Edited at: 5th Aug 2013 00:06
Another copy of Windows in the 2.x series, is 2.11 386 edition.



I've also included an installation video showing how to install it from the DOS command line. This method should work for Virtual box, VM Fusion, Parallels and of course DOSBOX.
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Posted: 5th Aug 2013 01:19
"In the beginning Microsoft Windows was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."

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Posted: 5th Aug 2013 01:36
This is a cool look at the past! Thanks Daniel!

Quote: ""In the beginning Microsoft Windows was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.""


This made me LOL!

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Posted: 10th Aug 2013 02:35
Quote: ""In the beginning Microsoft Windows was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
"

Douglas Adams' pure genius... I like how by the original quote, this implies Windows is the Universe.

Two days ago I acquired a windows 3.5 PC with magnetic tape drives, nothing beats old tech...
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Posted: 10th Aug 2013 17:53
My first MS-based computer was 3.11. I do kinda miss those days.


20 years from now, do you guys think Windows will still be around?

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Posted: 10th Aug 2013 20:39
Unfortunately it probably will be in some form or another. Will it be in the mainstream? Definitely not. There's really no reason for a casual user to be using Windows, everything they do can be done perfectly well in either OS X or Linux.

Windows is starting to lose its foothold in education now people are realizing that 99% of the functionality they need in an education machine is available in open-source alternatives.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2013 21:20
It'll definitely be around, but will it be as popular is the question.

With Windows Vista and 8 being fairly heavy commercial failures (although 8 is quite a nice OS once you get used to it), people have started switching platforms. And let's not forget the whole Xbox One fiasco, which has shaken many people's faith in MS (several friends of mine hate MS now because of that).

It'll definitely be around in 20+ years. Hopefully, MS do a good job at managing things, but until they let Ballmer go that probably won't happen.

I still really miss Windows XP. I think if they could make an OS as nice and stable as XP was, they would skyrocket again. Hopefully, 8.1 delivers a lot of nice things!

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Posted: 10th Aug 2013 22:03
The first computer I used was entirely DOS based. Later we upgraded to Windows ME. After that, Windows XP. I didn't mind Vista all that much. Windows 7 is much better.

I don't consider much of what Windows was doing there as "good" for the time. Other systems around offered basically the same thing if I'm not mistaken. Windows 3 was probably a different story.

Is there going to be another post in this series?

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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 01:22
The problem with microsoft is its attitude to its own testers and consumers... Before the publically available pre-release windows 8 builds I was issued with an 'alpha' copy of 8 (wasn't titled 8 then). It had a token "square" start button, but I still submitted a report saying how the then-"metro" interface destroyed workflow, etc, etc - I'm sure loads of other testers said the same,
dev builds later, everyone said the same thing.
RTM
Release.
So Microsoft put the "token" start back - it wasn't enough. If they'd had a "classic" option for start at release people would have integrated to the new design better (got used to it - right up to vista the 200-style start "classic" was available as an option), and pro's would be happy. They can't risk back-tracking this far now...

(Rant Over)
It annoys me, because I dislike OS_X (for various reasons, including apple pricing (lets all pay £350 more than the specs are worth, its got style, and a bitten apple stuck on it people!) and for me Linux is no option, so I'm running out of 'up-to-date' options.

For now I'll stick with Win 7... and NT 3.51 :p

P.S.: No offence intended to any apple people, I do own a Mac Mini, iPod, and iPad - despite disagreeing with Apple on Many points...
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 01:38
Sorry, I've just noticed how big a wall of text that was...

Quote: "20 years from now, do you guys think Windows will still be around?"

Hmm, 20 years - its hard to tell, it may be, but not for IT Pro's, unless they seriously change their attitude... maybe a few die-hards
Since when do error messages have friendly messages "Oops something went wrong", Smileys, and no information? As an IT Technician it makes me annoyed every time
I'd actually rather the errors said "Don't Panic" in large friendly letters, then I'd at least appreciate the reference...

By way of explanation - I've been put in this ranting mood by 4 separate ebay 'buyers', who collectively haven't paid me £200, stopping me from putting hardly anything towards AppGameKit 2 and FPSC-R as I'd wanted (as usual I'm broke) ...
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 13:16
Quote: "There's really no reason for a casual user to be using Windows, everything they do can be done perfectly well in either OS X or Linux."


Honestly, the main reason is that windows is easier to use. You never have to hit a DOS terminal to install software or adjust settings. In addition to this, (and I just know this is going to be really unpopular) Windows software is higher quality. I love the idea of LibreOffice but the fact is Microsoft Word produces nicer looking documents faster and easier. I only moved to Microsoft Office last year when they offered their subscription model because trying to publish from LibreOffice to XHTML and then ePub was unnecessary complicated.

Now this doesn't apply to Mac OS of course which has MS Windows (and please don't talk to me about wine, if you have to install and use wine to run MS Office then it's already too complicated for Joe Average user). But the barrier to Mac OS is the price of the hardware. I can pick up a Windows Netbook able to edit documents and browse the web for less than £175 new, and under £100 used. A Mac Mini with a reasonable spec is still £300 used and over £400 new, plus you have to get a keyboard, mouse and monitor adding another £150 to the process. Or you can get a neat little laptop with better specifications for around £350.

You might hate microsoft for X reason, but the fact is it has the biggest range of high quality software out there

In addition to this Linux doesn't have the support systems in place that allows a customer to phone up and solve problems. The Linux community is too fragmented, there's too many distributions with too many support companies around. If you buy an MS or Apple OS you know where to go for help.

I have to admit also when I've needed support from Microsoft it has been there. The same has not been true for apple unless you want to pack up and go into one of their stores. That's a very nice PR gig, but the reality is they have been very stingy with support in the past.

Now in more recent years Microsoft has taken a lot of heat, the biggest thing is that a new form factor device (the tablet) has appeared that is fantastic for consumers of content who don't produce much. Tablets are fine for someone who wants to write the occasional e-mail, make a shopping list or look up the TV listings. As the Nexus 7 pushed the market down into the sub-£200 price range. That combined with super cheap Under £1 apps has made it very attractive.

It's only natural that Microsoft want to capture this market (which frankly was their market no so long ago, tablets existed long before the iPad). Windows 8 for tablets makes absolutely perfect sense, I've used Windows 8 in that form factor and it really is fantastic to use. But like most people here I am a content creator. To create content you don't need the limited range of Metro apps out there, you need Adobe Creative Suite, App Game Kit, Microsoft Office, GIMP or Photoshop. These devices use the old Windows Desktop interface which isn't finger friendly and makes no sense on platforms like Microsoft Surface.

However Windows 8 as a general iPad alternative consumer device is fine. It's easy to use, and really only lacks because it's store doesn't have any decent apps.

So Microsoft are largely abandoning their Creative Professionals in hopes of pandering to the general consumer market (which it has held firmly up until this point). But I should remind people that the same Creative Professionals have been abandoned by Apple as well. Updates to their creative software packages have been dumbed down in recent years. You only have to look at iMovie to recognise this.

The other name of the game now, is to make customers buy into a single platform. Apple was the first company to really make this sucessful, after all if you have an Apple i device then you're going to have a ton of software from the apple store and videos from itunes and music from itunes. This means customers are more likely to carry on upgrading the Apple line as they slowly refuse to update iOS devices with the latest iOS (iPad 1 is already 2 generations behind at this point). The same is true for Android, devices like the Kindle lock you into the amazon system, and most android devices default to the Google Playstore even if you do have other options for Android. The more you invest in Android/ Apple the more likely you are to continue with that product line. I know for one that I don't like buying the same software twice on both Android and iOS platforms.

So Microsoft want to do the same thing, they want to build up a family of devices (again much like apple have with Mac, iOS and apple TV). To do this they are cultivating their two most popular platforms. XBOX and Windows, and then trying to draw users into that family. Of course this isn't entirely new from Microsoft they have made such half hearted attempts over the years with Windows Media Center and XBOX it's just that no one gave a damn. They also want to expand their media influence by producing TV shows based on their own popular products. In the short term it means angry Microsoft customers, but if they have the balls to actually do a proper job with it then there might be a loyal consumer base in their future.

Either way, love it or hate it, there's plenty of options with Windows. Users aren't being forced to upgrade from XP just yet, merely encouraged.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 13:38
I agree with everything you've said apart from
Quote: "Users aren't being forced to upgrade from XP just yet, merely encouraged.]"

Unless you don't count discontinuation of all security updates and support (in a few months) as way of forcing upgrade...
But I agree, give windows 8 to the tablets, but to me releasing a 'pro' edition of windows 8 was a bit of a joke. I only use OS X for Fcp x as i dislike windows video editing alternatives, (adobe interface is horrible, and soon subscription only). I've always preferred the look and feel of 'old' windows (up to 7. )
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I however use software such as Camtasia Studio which isn't avalible on Mac OS as anything but a simple screenshot capture application which I can do with Quicktime anyway. Mac OS video editing solutions (at least the ones I've seen) have not impressed me so far. But then I've been using adobe premier style video editors since 1999 so I'm used to the interface.

If windows wants to merge desktop and metro intefaces together it has to go about it in a more sophisticated way. Right now the Metro interface isn't "WindowS" It's "Window" as in you can only have one, and maybe a split view. There has to be a clever way of arranging multiple windows on top of each other within a tablet interface.

Personally I'd use the existing windows system and employ a "swipe from edge system" that's built into each individual window instead. Swipe from the edge of the window frame and a finger friendly menu appears which can be swiped left and right as needed. That way we could maintain our multi-tasking environment. I'd even add a Alt + Tab button to the device to swap programs quickly, and a physical start button to tablets. Finally I'd add options to swap between classic windows and "new windows".

Lets face it if I can think of something like that, why the hell can't microsoft come up with an even better solution?
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 16:27
Quote: "Mac OS video editing solutions (at least the ones I've seen) have not impressed me so far."

Have you ever tried FCP X? I found the interface so easy to pick up, and now with the updates (Version 1 wasn't great its true) its even better. All the pro tools from earlier versions of FCP are back. I agree, there are flaws, the video export to DVD is terrible (Apple think the optical disc is dead). The main thing is I like to have technology fairly current (to keep up with the tech I use), I can't afford Adobe upgrade prices, plus starting from the end of the year all new products are subscription only - this I cannot afford, and in 10 years tech can change, I don't want to be stuck with something thats non-updateable.
It was the only reason I got a Mac, that and having hardware so i can make osX and iOS apps with AppGameKit (When I can afford an apple dev subscription!).

Quote: "Lets face it if I can think of something like that, why the hell can't microsoft come up with an even better solution?"

Very valid point, but this is microsoft...

While we are on the Apple Microsoft thing, how come MS got sued (at least once) for web browser monopoly - because they included IE in windows? I notice the same thing didn't happen to apple who include safari on OS_X and even more annoyingly have it a non-removable component of iOS.

I must be missing something?

I agree Windows 8 could have been much better designed, but I think just having a "metro off" option at the start would have made the product so much more popular. I'd be more likely to accept the change if I had the option, i'd become interested, and then migrate to it at my own speed. But its just 'there' and it just hits you - first impressions is crucial for sales.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 20:51 Edited at: 11th Aug 2013 20:53
It's because Mac OS has less than 8% of the market according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems hardly anyone can call that a monopoly. Microsoft Windows XP still maintains about 37% and Windows 7 enjoys around 45%. It's kinda depressing that Linux has just 1.25% lol but I'm not surprised.

I agree that the metro off button would have made it more popular, but then microsoft will have faced another problem. No one is using metro lol. They are trying to force a market change. Personally I'd have marketted the whole thing differently.

Windows Desktop 8
Windows Tablet 8
Windows Mobile 8

Simple and everyone knows what they are getting. Hell, the only difference I'd have made between the two Desktop and Tablet version is that one has the Metro interface as standard, and the other has Desktop as standard. Both featuring the option to turn it off or on.

Heck, if I was in money grabbing mind I'd have played on the fact the market doesn't like metro for desktops, and charged another £40 for the desktop version. Let Tablet replace the "home" versions and Desktop replace the "pro" version, and throw in some extra desktop tools for business customers.

Ultimately I get the feeling that Microsoft half heartedly tried to move markets without any internal concession or singular vision. I expect they just had a little sucess with Windows mobile 7.5 and decided to slap it onto windows, and xbox as well.

Still, lets not forget that Vista was the first big move from NT 5.x technology onto the 6.x platform. And that was a bloomin' mess as well. Vista was advertised as being faster than XP, and was in fact much much slower. It arrived in a market place who's user base didn't have the hardware at home to support it. Then when Seven came along (which lets face is just a slow as Vista on the same hardware) the market had moved along enough were users were getting 2gb minimum and dual core processors. As opposed to users trying to install Vista on single core 512Mb XP systems. Worse still Vista arrived with immature driver support so hardly anything worked on it very well making it unstable.

I can't help but feel that Windows 8 should/ or is another Windows Vista. Get the shock out of the way, wait until it's all old news, then release Windows 9 to a market that is populated with tablet devices (remember when 8 was first released there was no tablet devices). It won't be so shocking then and frankly metro will be old news.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 21:32
I wouldn't have thought overall market share would present a good reason to tell microsoft off for having IE as standard though... Not very logical in my opinion...

Quote: "Hell, the only difference I'd have made between the two Desktop and Tablet version is that one has the Metro interface as standard, and the other has Desktop as standard. Both featuring the option to turn it off or on."


You know, if it had been like that their sales would very probably be at least double... haha

Its not only metro that annoyed me though, it was simple things like smileys spread throughout and the wording or error and information messages - even office 2013 is doing it "You're good to go!" after spell-check for example, its patronising and annoying. Its an operating system, it doesn't need emotions. I'm not 8 years old Microsoft!
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Posted: 11th Aug 2013 22:23
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