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Rob from Scotland
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Hello everybody,

I bought DBPro a long time ago, maybe 2003/4. I also bought DB Classic. For some reason I chose to program in DB Classic but I can't remember why. I have multiple sclerosis and my memory has been quite badly affected. I wrote some freeware educational programs in DB Classic and they went well. They were used by schools and others all over the world. I would now like to get into doing a little programming again, it might keep my mind going.

However, with DB Classic I always had d3drm.dll problems and I think that I will not have this with DBPro. Am I correct?

Today I have been trying my DBPro CD, copyright 2002 and it seems to work OK. Should I update DBPro, how do I do this and what would it cost?

I will also try to solve my DB Classic d3drm.dll problems so that I can relaunch my web site with my old programs on it, but thats another task and I think that I know where to go with it.

Thanks for any help, Rob

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Posted: 7th Aug 2013 15:49
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DB Classic uses DirectX 8 I believe, whereas DBPro uses DirectX 9.
Therefore the dll's required by users to run programs made with them would be different; d3drm.dll seems to originate from 1997 (!) and is as far as I know not required by DBPro; can't remember even downloading that and it isn't included by Microsoft starting with Windows Vista.

Since the current DirectX version is 11 however, most newer computers do not have DirectX 9 installed by default either and your users might have to download a barrage of other dll files (the DX9 runtime).

Updates for DarkBASIC Professional are free and available from here.
I would suggest you to update, there should be lots of fixes and added features compared to the CD version


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Posted: 7th Aug 2013 22:06
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Quote: "Should I update DBPro"

Simply, yes. Yes you should.


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Posted: 7th Aug 2013 22:10
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you really can do a lot more with DBpro.

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Rob from Scotland
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Well, thats an overwhelming vote so I'll update today. I won't be producing great games though, just enough to keep my brain awake.

Thanks for the advice,

Rob

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Rob from Scotland
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 16:11
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I followed the link to update DarkBASIC Professional given by Rudolpho and, at first, it all went well. Then it seemed to get stuck Building Keywords. The message, "There was a problem writing the keyword cache file, ensure that the directory that Editor resides in has write permissions.

If you are using Windows Vista (AND I AM) then you should either;
1) Run Synergy Editor with administrative settings
2) Install Synergy Editor into a directory that is not locked down by Vista security"

It kept on Building Keywords for 5 or 10 minutes until I stopped it. I then tried searching for Synergy Editor, in this forum and on the internet but had no luck. The addresses I found could not be opened.

Does anybody have any ideas? I am retired so normally I would be in no hurry but I am going into hospital(no WiFi) on 13th August and I am hoping to get started with DBPro during my stay

Thanks, Rob

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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:14
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The easiest thing to do is to install it into a sub folder in your "My Documents" folder instead of in your Program Files folder I guess.
Or ease up the user account control settings in Vista, just google that. In my opinion it's much better to turn it off entirely; it's your computer, why should access to "system folders" be prohibited? At least if you're logged in as an administrator anyway (which I think most anybody is on their own computers).


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Rob from Scotland
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Thanks Rudolpho, I turned off user account control settings and DBPro is up and running. Now I'll need to get down to learning (or re-learning) it. Life is great!

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It's bets not to install DBP into Program Files for this reason. (I've put mine into C:\TGC\DBPro which has annoyed my OCD no end! lol)

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Glad it's working

@Mobiius: So just turn the junk off; no more chagrin...


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Rob from Scotland
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Hello friends,

I did get started with DPPro but only just when I ran into problems. Sometimes, when I try to run a very simple program it crashes with the window, "Please insert the Dark Basic Professional CD-ROM, select OK and restart application". This would be the 2002 CD-ROM, I assume. On the desktop "FAILED TO VALIDATE COMPILER" appears.

When I updated DBPro the old version was not removed. Should I do this? I hope that this is all that is wrong but fear that life might not be that simple.

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I believe you should uninstall previous version and reinstall again then update you editor to a later editors.

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Thanks for the advice basjak. Unfortunately, I am down with a heavy cold today and tomorrow I am off to hospital for two weeks. It's nothing serious. I have multiple aclerosis and the local MS clinic wants to assess what they can do for me. Unfortunately the hospital has no WIFI so I'll have to wait until I come home and carry out your advice.

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You don't need to remove old versions when updating, (i never do.) you do need to validate dbpro after updating however.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2013 17:16
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Quote: "you do need to validate dbpro after updating however"


Why? I never do.



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Posted: 12th Aug 2013 19:51
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I've mucked up everything. I deleted everything containg the words, "DarkBASIC Pro" I then went absolutely crazy and emptied my waste basket. Please don't ask me why. I don't know.

I then got notified that some more answers to my problems had arrived and I knew how silly I had been. I went on to try to load my 2002 DarkBASIC Pro I failed miserably and remembered why I had shosen to write in DarkBASIC classic

Now I am going to do what I should have done earlier. I'll go off to hospital for two weeks. I look forward to coming back in two weeks and being rescued!

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Posted: 12th Aug 2013 20:22
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Quote: "I've mucked up everything."


You are not alone. While I was composing this reply I somehow closed my browser and had to log in again.

Quote: "I look forward to coming back in two weeks and being rescued!
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Don't worry, we'll all still be here.

Hope the hospital trip works well for you.



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Now I can go off to hospital feeling that I can come back and get on to some programming.

Thanks a lot!

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Green Gandalf: Sorry to drop in uninvited and hijacking the topic. But I was wondering if you could please point me to the terrain texture splatting shader created by you that works with Advanced Terrain and
Blitzwerks Terrain. I have found many people in the forum stating that they are using GG's terrain texture splatting shader but was unable to find the thread where the shader was released officially.
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Quote: "the terrain texture splatting shader"


I'm not sure which of my terrain shaders you mean. The obvious one is the following one which I posted on the BlitzTerrain thread recently, but there are others:

Terrain shader posted on BlitzTerrain thread



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Green Gandalf: Thank you for the shader. Is bump mapping better than normal mapping in increasing the surface detail or is it otherwise ?
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Posted: 13th Aug 2013 16:23
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I'll continue this on your other thread.



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Green Gandalf: Thank you.
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Rob from Scotland
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DBPro udated successfully My son came to visit me in hospital and he brought a dongle. It gives me a 3G signal to the internet so I uninstalled my 2002 DBPro and then installed it again and then updated and it all seems to be working

Thanks for all your help everybody!!!

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Quote: "DB Classic uses DirectX 8 I believe"


I think it's actually DirectX 7. Skeletal animation was introduced in DX 8, but DBC doesn't support it, so it must be even older.

Quote: "While I was composing this reply I somehow closed my browser and had to log in again."


That was actually a hidden fake code-snippet with a logout link.

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I don't think it was. I have difficulty controlling the mouse precisely and probably hit the browser close button by mistake.

Happens all the time , well about once a day anyway.



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I keep my logins saved, ^^ good that this was concluded

Rob!!! get coding!

The Hands On books are very useful! get the PDF versions they are cheaper and erm well quicker...

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