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JLMoondog
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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 05:19 Edited at: 22nd Sep 2013 12:20
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Now this is odd. My girlfriend just bought a Chromebook, we also live in the US. When she opened it up she sees this type of keyboard:

See attachment..

Not only is it slightly off from what we're use to, the keys don't even match what is written on them when pressed. It's actually kinda funny.

I told her she could do a trade in, but she's keeping it because it's 'special' lol.

So any ideas what part of the world uses this keyboard layout?

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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 05:23
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It's a AZERTY keyboard. Judging by the convenient symbols, probably something of Latin origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 14:19
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Quote: "Judging by the convenient symbols, probably something of Latin origin."


It's actually French, which you can tell by the "échap" button.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 14:39 Edited at: 15th Sep 2013 14:40
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Quote: "It's actually French, which you can tell by the "échap" button."


French is a descendant of Latin.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 17:27 Edited at: 15th Sep 2013 17:28
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It's used in France and a few other countries I believe. It gives the wrong output because the OS keyboard language is set to English.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

Also, do you want a tutorial on how to resize images?

Quote: "French is a descendant of Latin."


So is English, to a certain extent.
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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 17:43 Edited at: 15th Sep 2013 17:44
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Did anyone even read my first reply?

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French is a descendant of Latin.


So is English, to a certain extent."


So is Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 17:53
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Acer Chromebook! Keyboard layout! Image size!



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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 19:04
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Quote: "Did anyone even read my first reply?"

I wasn't saying that it wasn't of Latin origin, I was just specifying it as French.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2013 19:37
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English is not descended from Latin, we use a lot of Latin words but the language is Germanic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages


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Posted: 16th Sep 2013 16:57 Edited at: 16th Sep 2013 16:59
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Quote: "we also live in the US"


What do they use in Quebec (which isn't too far away I guess )?

Edit: To clarify (in view of preceding few posts ): I was referring to the keyboard not the language.



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Posted: 16th Sep 2013 17:17
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Quote: "Not only is it slightly off from what we're use to, the keys don't even match what is written on them when pressed"


The language for the keyboard layout in windows might have still been selected for english.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2013 17:55
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Quote: "The language for the keyboard layout in windows might have still been selected for english."


^This

Just go to Keyboard in Control panel and change the input language

Keyboards use the same layout, the keys are just mapped differently to different symbols...

I could be wrong though as that is simply my assumption...

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Posted: 16th Sep 2013 23:21
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French Keyboard:

Interesting thing: here in luxemburg you have a good change of running into azerty and qwertz layouts within the same company.



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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 00:13
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Quote: " azerty and qwertz"


Are there 3 now, "azerty", "qwertz" and "qwerty" or is it just a misstype?

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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 03:01
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I have "йцукен" layout

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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 03:42
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So your WASD movement keys are actually zqsd. Something to consider when righting software documentation translations.

That 7 megapixel image is so large I can only see across to the D key without scrolling.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 03:56
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...Yo momma SO BIG, that she took up even more space than that image!

Sorry, had to.

Interestingly, I had no idea there was more than the QWERTY layout... I don't know why I didn't really realize that before, but now I know!

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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 04:09
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I use Dvorak and it's really irritating when games don't let you rebind keys!
Every piece of software ever written should have rebind-able keys! That should be a law.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 07:26
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You're the first person I know to actually use dvorak

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Posted: 17th Sep 2013 11:04
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Quote: "Are there 3 now, "azerty", "qwertz" and "qwerty" or is it just a misstype?"


Did you even look at the first post?

Quote: "Every piece of software ever written should have rebind-able keys! That should be a law."


I hate programming re-bindable keys, it's almost as frustrating as writing a sokoban parser. But yes, I agree with you.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2013 20:18
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Quote: "Did you even look at the first post?"


What I meant was the "qwertz" that someone mentioned.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2013 03:37
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Latin_keyboard_layouts_by_country_in_Europe_map.PNG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY-based_layouts_for_Latin_script

Hope that clears that up

I'm on one of those 'qwertz' layouts myself, so yes, that is a thing here in Germany.

(And btw, if you'd followed TheComet's link in the second post of the thread you'd actually have seen the graphic linked above )

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PS: I guess Dvorak might be useful if you only type with one hand? I almost always type with my left hand (yes, even right now) which might not be the fastest or most convenient way, but I kinda got used to it
(or 95% left hand, the right hand can operate Backspace/Enter/Shift if it happens to be available )
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Posted: 20th Sep 2013 15:26 Edited at: 20th Sep 2013 15:26
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I'm on a QWERTZ keyboard, too.

In China they have 去我而人他一 keyboards.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2013 17:13
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Quote: "I guess Dvorak might be useful if you only type with one hand?"

What are you insinuating?


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Posted: 21st Sep 2013 20:05
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Quote: "I almost always type with my left hand (yes, even right now) which might not be the fastest or most convenient way, but I kinda got used to it "


That's what I was "insinuating"... My right hand happens to be on the mouse right now, and my left hand is typing this here, that's all. And if my right arm decides it is a good time to randomly fall off in the next few minutes I shall still be able to inform y'all about that.

Seriously though, I just never learned how to type the "right" way with all ten fingers, and couldn't be bothered to learn it either, so I made up my own way of typing.
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2013 05:38
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Quote: "My right hand happens to be on the mouse right now, and my left hand is typing this here, that's all."


You leave your right hand on the mouse the whole time whilst typing messages? Isn't that a little inefficient?
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2013 12:19
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Seriously, if you're not using 4 hands, you're not being an efficient type-r.



Sorry about the image hah, my g/f sent it to me and I didn't bother to open it before posting.

She decided to trade it in, bummer, was actually funny to type with.

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Posted: 22nd Sep 2013 22:06
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Quote: "What I meant was the "qwertz" that someone mentioned."


Indeed! I have a qwertz keyboard. "qwerty" is american as far as I know.

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Quote: "That 7 megapixel image is so large I can only see across to the D key without scrolling."


Why are you using 640x480? Or possibly 800x600?

Lol it fits on my screen without any scrolling, horizantal or vertical.

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Quote: "Lol it fits on my screen without any scrolling, horizantal or vertical."


BS - your screen is not 3000px wide. Or if it is, where do I get one?


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Quote: "Indeed! I have a qwertz keyboard. "qwerty" is american as far as I know."


Interesting, I had no idea they even existed

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2013 23:25
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Quote: "Indeed! I have a qwertz keyboard. "qwerty" is american as far as I know."

And swedish ^^



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Posted: 24th Sep 2013 00:01
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Quote: "Indeed! I have a qwertz keyboard. "qwerty" is american as far as I know."

And Swiss ^^ And German ^^

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Posted: 24th Sep 2013 00:10
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Wasn't it developed by a French guy named Qwert Yuiop?

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QWERTY - UK Too...

My current screens width is 4,608px Wide and 1152px in height...

Anybody want a screenshot lol

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Posted: 24th Sep 2013 01:42
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Quote: "And Swiss ^^ And German ^^"


Incorrect.

Swiss and german people use qwertz, not qwerty

Source



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Quote: "BS - your screen is not 3000px wide. Or if it is, where do I get one?"


Oh wait, nevermind. It was zoomed out somehow. Zooming in I can see from one side of the image to the "m" key. Lol.

But it is a very nice and interesting screen. Here, I made a thread about it: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=207955&b=2

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Posted: 24th Sep 2013 12:03
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Quote: "Swiss and german people use qwertz, not qwerty"


I know, I misread the comment I replied to it seems.

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Quote: "Anybody want a screenshot lol"


Me.


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Posted: 25th Sep 2013 05:06 Edited at: 25th Sep 2013 05:06
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Lol Comet, this keyboard thing sure has turned into an ordeal for you, eh? I can emphasize with you

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Quote: "My current screens width is 4,608px Wide and 1152px in height..."


But what's the native resolution? Chances are it's just scaling it down to its native resolution.
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Posted: 25th Sep 2013 06:39 Edited at: 25th Sep 2013 14:22
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Quote: "But what's the native resolution? Chances are it's just scaling it down to its native resolution. "


Left Screen old crappy DELL monitor terrible scaling even at full 1280x1024 but full 32bit colour

Right Screen good scaling but old crappy Sony monitor and also at 1280x1024 but only a 30bit panel... [I know right? I got it cheap anyway in a hurry]

The Centre screen is 2048x1152 native excellent scaling, crisp sharp and when using 1366x768 super crisp but bad aspect conversion, ends up letterboxing... but 1080p is great, I keep it at native resolution at all times, even when playing games... Dell 23" running over HDMI via my GTX 480

http://www.akaneaya.co.uk/tgcforum/DOWNLOADS/mrvalentinesdesktop001.jpg

http://www.akaneaya.co.uk/tgcforum/DOWNLOADS/mrvalentinesdesktop002.jpg

This second image shows what it looks like when using one of the recent Bing backgrounds and using Windows 8 Span option

Note: Images will be reduced to just a link in a couple of hours...

EDIT

Added second image

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Posted: 25th Sep 2013 13:38 Edited at: 25th Sep 2013 13:40
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Are you kidding me



Vagita, what does the scouter say about my zoom level

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Posted: 25th Sep 2013 14:09 Edited at: 25th Sep 2013 14:19
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Ahahhahahhahahaha pretty insane but I really want some better screens...

EDIT

Wow Firefox sucks, you should see the zoom on my IE10... but instead here it is on my HTC 8X



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