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Cescano
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Posted: 9th Oct 2014 09:27
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Where can i download or find all the versions of the official editor of dark basic pro?

I have the one update 2003 which is not bad unless some bugs in the functions or example, i have the one updated 2008 which i found on the dvd of the copy i bought from tgc (bonanza pack) which fixed the functions bugs but has no way to make an exe (unbelievable huh) plus give me some lag with the water shader of evolved (probably because of some camera updates which they broke updating the viewer), then i have the editor updated 2010 which doesn t work on win 8.1.

Can someone please tell me where can i find other versions (or post them to download here) so that i can decide which one is the more usable one?

For the moment i am using the 2008 version to write the code (i need to minimize functions cause my code is getting very big so i cant use the 2003 version), and the 2003 version to create the final exe (not only because is the only way to make an exe, as the 2008 version doesn t have an option for it, but because of the water shader problem which works laggy cause of the camera bugs/changes)
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John Y
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Posted: 9th Oct 2014 16:56
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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=209135&b=1

Synergy Editor - Available for free HERE!
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wattywatts
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Posted: 9th Oct 2014 18:59
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Quote: "the 2003 version to create the final exe (not only because is the only way to make an exe, as the 2008 version doesn t have an option for it"

F5 - compile and run. It will compile to the directory you specify on the left.
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Cescano
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Posted: 9th Oct 2014 19:46
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John i said OFFICIAL editor, i dont like the synergy editor, i removed it as soon as i tried it.

for watty, finally i figured out where the exe is made, default folder was in some paths under "users\administrators\etc", i change it now.

I also tried to run the exe made with the 2008 version and now the water it s not laggy anymore, i don't know how did i fixed it
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Rudolpho
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Posted: 10th Oct 2014 12:32
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Synergy is the official editor since a couple of years back.
The old one should still be bundled with your DBPro installation if you want to use it; it should be located at "<root dbp dir>/Editor/editor.exe" (the Synergy one is in the same folder called "EditorNew.exe" and is what is launched using "<root dbp dir>/Launch.exe").


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Cescano
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Posted: 10th Oct 2014 18:42
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Ok i think i managed it to work, i dont know why i didnt liked synergy when i tried it before, probably the only annoying problem is that i have to open file (add to project) instead of just open file like i used to do with the other editors, if you try just to open file the compile and run buttons are greyed out, so i tried doing opend file (add to project) and it works, thanks man

btw i got the version updated 12-12-2013, is this the latest version?
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Cescano
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mmm well i think i must continue to write my code with the viewer updated 2008 as this synergy editor is bugged, if i try to enable or disable functions folding on the options it doesn t make any change (even after restart)

I need functions folding because my code is very big now and full of functions, it s a lot easier write the code just having the function i am working on opened and keep all the others minimized, please let me know when this will be fixed in the Synergy editor so i can restart to use it, thank you
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Ortu
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Posted: 11th Oct 2014 00:53
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You could split functions into multiple files and link them together by adding them to the project in the editor, or as #include in the code. This helps manage your code by organizing groups of similar functions into modules, and makes each individual file smaller and easier to read through

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Cescano
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sorry but i am sick to do "workarounds", i want things to works as they are supposed to do, i actually prefer have the Whole code on 1 file only, and minimize functions i dont need to look at
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Ortu
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That's not a work around, it is an organizational principle. Even with folding functions, a project of any large size will quickly become unmanageable if you don't start to break it down into smaller components.

That aside, to be honest, this is the core of what programming is... working around and solving problems to get things done, and not always the way you wanted to or thought you would.

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If there is a function i PRETEND it to work! Already programmers make buys on their own code, if the tool they use to program is bugged itself you can imagine the amount of bugs the final application will have!!!
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However, doing how you say, will be a completely messup for me.

when i change the code updating it and adding features, i use to save a new dba file for it, so that if i do something wrong i can reaload the old one and restart from there, so that for example i have a file called MyProject 135, if i make some changes and they works, i save it as MyProject 136, if as you say i have to split all the functions in different files, will be a messup doing every time a MyProjectFunction1 136 + MyProjectFunction2 136 etc, and even if i dont change 1 specific function if i leave the old number i could not understand for which part of the main file it was
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Posted: 11th Oct 2014 06:10
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You are trying to manually manage version control, git or svn are much better suited for this, and provide a number of very useful utilities like file comparison, merging, and restoration to name just a few.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2014 06:31
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No just saving to a new file with progressive number
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Exactly.


definition

version control

noun

in computing, the management and maintenance of a software system running different versions of various programs

Examples

In version control, changes to documents are identified by incrementing an associated number or letter code, termed the "revision level, " or simply "revision."

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Some facts:

♦ Version control management applications are by far superior to manually keeping track of your backups. However, unless I'm working with other people and thus have the need for a centralized code repository I don't use this as much as I should myself.
If you insist on making your own backups, backing up the entire project folder instead of just a source file works as well (of course you should have a separate source folder to back up so that you don't have multiple copies of the same media etc.).

♦ The Synergy editor IS bugged in a few ways, such as the interface getting messed up when resizing or restoring the window, there is always something behind the solution panel that is quite annoying and so forth.
It could also do with a few more standard IDE features. It is however hardly inferior to the original DBPro IDE.

♦ The editor has close to NO effect on your final executable; this is all up to the compiler. All the IDE really does is concatenate all your source files into one large source that is fed to the compiler, along with injecting the settings of things like display mode, screen resolution and executable information.
You can verify this yourself by checking the FullSourceDump.dba file, which is generated by the editor and passed to DBPCompiler.exe.


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if you say that the final exe is not (almost) affected by the editor, may i know why compiling the same code, with older versions of the editor the final exe is way smaller?

Also, which one do you suggest me to use to compile the final exe? There is a difference in terms of performance or bugs?
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Posted: 11th Oct 2014 17:23
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On the topic of IDEs, I try to keep a list of links to those that members have created for DBP and DBC.

http://dbcodecorner.com/?page=resources

http://zimnox.com
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Ortu
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Posted: 11th Oct 2014 17:43
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Are you sure it is only an older version of the editor and not an older version of dbpro?

Also now that the code compiles to a good program have you tried recompiling back in the editor that have you problems?

I would say most likely the problem is some other factor like a hardware or other software conflict assuming that the code did not change

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Posted: 12th Oct 2014 17:03
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my version of dbpro is 7.62, when i tried version 7.7 i had my water f***ed up so i removed it and reinstalled 7.62.

can someone reply to this:

(if you say that the final exe is not (almost) affected by the editor, may i know why compiling the same code, with older versions of the editor the final exe is way smaller?

Also, which one do you suggest me to use to compile the final exe? There is a difference in terms of performance or bugs? )
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